I think what TristanX means is only after knowing key info such as the SUPER's performance and price adjustment to both 4080 and 4080 SUPER, we will know whether to get 4080 or 4080 SUPER

Maybe the 'not worth' is referring to as in new card coming out very soon, can wait a bit more and see how things are like before buying. Then compare, decide

Hope I got this right...

Kambing soon...

This post has been edited by adamtayy: Dec 26 2023, 10:39 AM

This is the spec page for the mobo of your query.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-...I/Specification

Do be careful as there can be same mobo family that supports different RAM generations ie
(DDR4) https://www.lazada.com.my/products/msi-pro-...9765338395.html?
(DDR5) https://www.lazada.com.my/products/msi-pro-...0896546114.html?

You bought DDR4 so make sure to buy a DDR4 mobo.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Dec 26 2023, 08:18 AM

If you see from a pricing per generation GPU perspective, 4080 is totally not worth it in comparison to older 80 series family



The price rise from 680 to 3080 has been gradual but from 3080 to 4080 the hike is so out of whack that even JTC complains.

My company

Hi, is it possible to get a pc without monitor to play Dota 2 with a budget of 1.5k ? or better off with a 2nd hand pc ?

I agree with you. Just that with the 4080 SUPER variants out, it's probably gonna be around the price range of 4080 which is the exponential increase anyways.

And if waiting for RTX 50 is not realistic (and assuming they're any good), it sucks, but you just have to settle with RTX 40 (or go with AMD cards if you're purely gaming).

Processor: Intel I7-4700K
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A Max Wifi ATX LGA1700
SSD kingston kc3000 1TB
RAM：Kingston Fury Beast RGB 16GB x 2 @ 5200mhz

any suggestions for casing and cooler? built in cooler with casing better or buy separately?

This post has been edited by twhong_91: Dec 26 2023, 04:02 PM

Maybe, yes but expect no better than cybercafe gaming PC;
Ryzen 5600G + B550M (RM 1030)
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/gigabyte...7741070635.html?

2x8GB DDR4 RAM (RM 95x2 = 190)
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...1544875101.html?

250GB SATA3 Sam 870EVO (RM 143)
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/samsung-...5017689231.html?

Cheapo case with OEM 550W PSU (RM 95) only useful with igpu. Replace if want to upgrade with a GPU
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/pc-casin...8475417684.html?

Balance RM42, buy extra fans. This cheapo case lacks some.

Expect 1080P Medium settings to get >100FPS.

At such low budget used maybe even better but caveat emptor when dealing used stuff.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Dec 26 2023, 04:43 PM

4080 Super might replace 4080 at same price or less.

Its just next month. Just wait and see.

Ryzen 5 5600G RM579
MSI A520M-A Pro RM299
Kingston Fury Beast 8GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM RM176
WD Blue SN570 500GB SSD RM189
Silverstone ST50F-ES PSU RM165
Cap ayam casing RM100

Hello sifu2, please recommend best pc build for Rm4k budget.

Listing of Z690/790 VRM:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gQI...f2jY/edit#gid=0

Bare in mind more A is more expensive.

What are you using it for? Gaming?

This post has been edited by TristanX: Dec 26 2023, 09:37 PM

Please do provide the following info while posting

[B][Budget] (absolute max or % extra can topup)

[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences]

[Location]

If 4080S slots into 4080 price range and pushes the ori 4080 down a tier to 4070TI price then it would this card a much better deal at least back to 3080 pricing but reports stated its likely the ori will be phased out since at that tier will have 4070TI Super so that lower high end segment will be cramped with options if NVIDIA stuck to all their models.

Even in the West, ori 4080 MSRP pricing dont make much sense as buyers would rather topup the difference and get 4090 instead. Shortage now is temporary due to China, once the ban stabilises few months later supply will resume so any 80 series is pointless, just save up a bit more and get 4090.

Light gaming 1080p. Photo editing/Video editing

Updated info. Thank you.

[B][Budget] 4k - max 5k

[Purpose] Photo editing/Video editing plus some light gaming at 1080p

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] Available monitor 1080p x 2

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Lightroom

[Personal preferences] If possible have proper air cooler, not liquid

[Location] Selangor/N.Sembilan/KL can go.

My idea for a Jan 2024 budget build with upcoming 14th Gen Refresh nonK CPU
CPU 13700F / 14700F (will come in Jan 2024)
MOBO MSI B760M-A DDR4
RAM 32GB (16x2) Corsair vengeance 3200 DDR4
GPU RX6700XT / RX6750XT / RX7700XT / RTX 4070 if budget can still fit (7800XT pun boleh but then will need to up the PSU to 750/850W Gold)
SSD 1TB either S70 Blade / Legend 960 / KC3000
PSU MSI MAG A650BN / FSP HVPRO 650W
Case Tecware Nexus Air / Montech Air 1000 (both ATX casing)
or else Nexus Air M2/Forge / Montech Air 100 (MATX casing)
Cooler can use back Intel stock box cooler but if noise/temp is an issue get PA/PS 120/SE
Pricing sendiri cari but most likely will be within 5k

Or TristanX AM4 alternative
Ryzen 5 5600 - 565
Asrock B550M Pro4 - 449
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 16GB DDR4-3200 kit - 189
MSI RTX 4070 12GB Ventus 2X - 2750
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 329
Adata Core Reactor 750W - 469
Montech Air 903 Max case - 329
RM5080 total (Shopee prices)

Or Myway balls to the wall alternative except w/o GPU (can upgrade later when got money)
i7-14700k RM1,999.00 (igpu can get ave 44FPS for Dota2 @1080P High)
z790 msi p wifi RM1,099.00
32gb 3600mhz kingston fury RM360.00
1tb kc3000 RM345.00
1st player steampunk 850 gold RM399.00
azza hive 450m RM259.00
thermalright ultra extrene 120 RM259.00
RM4,720.00

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Dec 27 2023, 12:24 PM

SSD price up...haih

If wan build Jan... I think best wait for new price...else ggwp