That MSI Pro B600M-A mobo main key feature is its VRM able to cope with i5 / i7 CPU at unlocked PL2 state if paired with a capable cooler. If u want something similarly capable but without the wifi or the many HDMI&DP ports, can consider B600M mobos; Asrock Steel Legend @RM718 or PG Riptide @RM618 (using this in my new build).

Is this for personal cad use or professional commercial usage? 5-6K for a proper autocad system is rather low as you need a workstation level PC especially if your doing 3D cad, rendering, and simulation with others ie Solidworks.

I'd recommend getting:
Core i7 class with at least 8 cores, 12700, 12700K or 13700K
Peerless Assassin or Frost Commander cooler
Pro grade mobo so either MSI Pro B660M-A or Z690-A
32/64GB 2666MHZ RAM. You want it to run at JEDEC speed rather than XMP for system stability
2/4TB NVME SSD. CAD files, especially 3D eats storage space
Any of the more recent Quadro family GPU. An equivalent to RTX 3060 would do fine. These are for professional type usage as in your requirement
800+ W Gold or Platinum grade PSU. Go for A tier for ultimate stability
Any well ventilated case if you are going to use it 8hr a day
Win10/11 PRO or Business license if you going to use it as a business

It would be something similar to myway1985 suggestion if you plan to build your own.

Gigabyte mobo is trash if paired with i7 K sku. Better to pair with MSI B660M-A, Bazooka, Mortar, Asrock B660 Steel Legend, or any Z690 mobo.

AMD GPU has weaker optimisation, weaker driver support, and weaker productivity applications to be considered for professional use. But neither do I suggest going GTX or RTX as I'd would recommend latest Quadro line.

And a big NO going watercooling even for AIO if the system is used for a professional setup. The rad pump won't last the long usage it should be expected to run (8hr daily) and when it fails, the users would not know what to do unlike the enthusiast crowd.

Such systems should be super dependable and super reliable with few areas for failures (hardware & software). Which is why pro CADs are typically run off workstation grade PCs.

AIO is nice but as a user you will want a long durable PC for professional use.
FC140 is able to handle i9 12900K level CPU at max turbo so it can handle anything below that
https://www.hkepc.com/20924/%E9%A2%A8%E5%86...%86%B1%E5%99%A8

Whatmore mostly these PCs are typically used in aircon offices so cooling is a lot easier by air.

In that case, I'd still stick to pretty much what I suggest earlier

Core i7 class with at least 8 cores, 12700, 12700K or 13700K
Peerless Assassin or Frost Commander cooler. Senior folks would not know to handle water or AIO, so better get the best tower and forget it was ever there.
Pro grade mobo so either MSI Pro B660M-A or Z690-A
32/64GB 2666MHZ RAM. Something like Kingston Fury Beast RGB DDR4 with native 2666MHZ JEDEC (https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF426C16BBA_8.pdf) x4(8GB) or X2(16GB)
2/4TB NVME SSD. Get a fast Gen4 512GB/1TB as bootdrive and a cheaper 2/4TB Gen3 as storage
Any of the more recent Quadro family GPU. If Quadro is out of reach, a RTX 3060 (12GB) class and above will have the graphical power to render highly detailed CADS.
800+ W Gold or Platinum grade PSU. See in this list whichever A tier PSU that you can get https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Any well ventilated case if you are going to use it 8hr a day. Lianli Lancool or Fractal Meshify mid tower cases that can fit a 160m tall cooler. If no budget ady could go for cheaper like my reviewed Nexus Air https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5343604
Win10/11 PRO or Business license if you going to use it as a business. Your budget will need to factor this plus whatever CAD software licensing.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Dec 31 2022, 11:02 PM

If OP don't look to upgrading his CPU or mobo in the future, AM5 futureproofing upgradeability doesn't mean anything to him. What he needs is a CPU+mobo combo which is sufficient for his current use case and enough headroom for future usage. For that I'd reckon a 12700/K or 13700K at least and paired with cheaper DDR4 3600/3800/4000. Cheapest DDR5 (4000-5000+) doesn't perform better but cost much higher and the usability of DDR5 platform would be wasted if OP won't be upgrading to faster RAM in the future.

I disagree. Most RTX 3070 AIB recommends minimum 550W PSU and following GamersNexus advice to count in transient spikes, the PSU would need to be at least 700-800 W.

Why render via CPU only? It is such an inefficient way and uses more time with more render software enabling GPU rendering
https://www.cgdirector.com/best-computer-3d...ling-rendering/

I would sell off the R1600 & 5700XT, get a midrange Ryzen 5 and a better GPU for the rendering job.

GN did an indepth research and shown their results with data. If you have something to disprove their findings, by all means.

As for the power levels, its based on mine i7+b660+RTX3060Ti system needing which I put thru various PSU calculators, and also recommendations by a few shops. Both corroborated that I need at least 600W, so if going by a 3070 a similar build as mine would likely need 700W minimum.

Without Bios update? Impossible! Mobo makers cannot predict the future so how can they planned current Bios to support future unreleased AMD CPUS? And mind you not all board partners will continue support more than a couple generations old ie see their support for Zen3. At best, most will support for the 5 years as they did with Zen1-3. When a new socket comes you can kiss support goodbye.

You'll have to decide for the now whether want price/perf ratio (Intel+DDR4) or upgradability in future. Otherwise if you have the money, go Intel but by up one grade what you currently need (ie get an i7 if you require an i5 now, ditto with i9 for i7).

CPUS of today don't age too badly if you buy up, an i7 has been on 8P cores since Cometlake way back in 2020 and the same 8P core count will continue to persist past 2024 with Arrowlake. The LGA1700 platform isn't so deadend either as it gets 3 family generations with AL & RL plus now with RL refresh pushing Arrowlake further behind.

For AL the value CPU is 12400 but for RL the value CPU is now 13500 as that variant is the tipping point in core count changes.

If u need MATX sized case, budget ones can still do if u go for those with 3x front fans ie Tecware's ori Forge M (vs your chosen M2 that's with only 2 front fans), Flatline or Nexus Air M

Am really glad actually as it makes me more appreciate my 3060Ti. LOL

For office/trading work stuff only, even i3 & H610 with Gen3 SSD will suffice I think. Prolly can help him knock it down to under RM 2k.

H610 meant for office use environment (ie multimonitor functions) aren't that difficult to find and they are cheap as hell for office use. These comes with HDMI+DP plus others too
https://shopee.com.my/-ASRock-H610M-HDV-M.2...76-abd5f16ec354
https://shopee.com.my/-ASRock-H610M-HDV-M.2...3b-d2cd26620d2b

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jan 10 2023, 06:26 PM

Indeed but i3/i5 is pretty much all you need for daily office work application use. If you take a look at branded office PCs their no different or worse. And how often does one upgrade their office PC CPU, I never heard of such in the various companies I been. By the time a CPU is too slow even for office use, it is time to change the whole system.

You could try getting artic slim fans so it can clear the RAMS. If the mounting screws cannot go all the way down with slim fans, you will have to fill in between with some kind of spacers or polystyrene foam.
https://www.arctic.de/en/P14-Slim-PWM-PST/ACFAN00268A

If you google, there is actually someone who managed to install that same exact cooler into that same exact case as urs. Watch @6.57 how he manage to fit all those fans in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitIxf_1FEU

3pin is for ARGB/DRGB make sure u connect correctly or else if you hook it to the mobo 12V RGB can say byebye to unicorn vomit bling lighting. Read ur manuals carefully.

Your using MSI mystic light in Windows am rite? Have you tried to see if you got RGB control in bios and use it to activate them?

The price is not bad for the specs but it is clearly a stock clearance offer for last gen parts, with 12400 + 3060Ti. And a lot of other parts aren't specified the exact model so Im guessing there's gonna be a lot of compromise going into that (Giga D3SH or MSI Pro-E or Asrock HDV mobo? ORZ) as compared if you specced it your own.

FWIW if you can afford to wait, then hold on until end of the year where 13400 + B760 would have normalised in pricing & availability and newer stuff gets released (4060 / Ti or 7600XT).