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styxrikako88
post Jun 8 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 8 2017, 12:12 PM)
How about these?

Pentium G4560 - 249
Asrock H110M-DVS R2.0 - 249
Apacer 8GB DDR4-2133 - 249
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 699
Kingston UV400 120GB SSD - 239
Corsair VS 450W - 189
Tecware F3 case - 125

RM1998 total
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Thanks!! will get it this weekend
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post Jun 9 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 8 2017, 12:12 PM)
How about these?

Pentium G4560 - 249
Asrock H110M-DVS R2.0 - 249
Apacer 8GB DDR4-2133 - 249
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 699
Kingston UV400 120GB SSD - 239
Corsair VS 450W - 189
Tecware F3 case - 125

RM1998 total
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QUOTE(styxrikako88 @ Jun 8 2017, 03:18 PM)
Thanks!! will get it this weekend
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Sorry to piggyback this question.

Is the cpu for above sufficient for the rig? or do you recommend getting a bit better one?

thanks!

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christina1
post Jun 9 2017, 09:48 AM

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Guys,

Need ur advice on this. Currently I'm using i5 4570 with 8GB RAM.

Should I add another 8GB RAM for my desktop or straight away upgrade to Ryzen 1600 with 8 GB RAM ?

Is it 16GB RAM for i5 4570 overkilled ?

Please advice...TQ

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post Jun 9 2017, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(whitebeard89 @ Jun 9 2017, 09:29 AM)
Sorry to piggyback this question.

Is the cpu for above sufficient for the rig? or do you recommend getting a bit better one?

thanks!
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Budget issue. Next in line is Ryzen 5 1400 or 1600. I don't recommend i5 or higher for today's prices. Unless there is Nvidia bottleneck issue for GTX 1060 or better.
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post Jun 9 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Jun 9 2017, 09:48 AM)
Guys,

Need ur advice on this. Currently I'm using i5 4570 with 8GB RAM.

Should I add another 8GB RAM for my desktop or straight away upgrade to Ryzen 1600 with 8 GB RAM ?

Is it 16GB RAM for i5 4570 overkilled ?

Please advice...TQ
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Both are different things, one is memory one is CPU.

If you are running low on memory then adding more memory will fix the issue, but if the culprit is the slow CPU (4th gen i5 is still kicking a** these days BTW unless you are doing heavy CPU stuffs on it), then adding more memory won't be able to solve the issue.

And nope, 16GB is not overkill, it depends on your usage pattern and common practice on memory management.
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post Jun 9 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 9 2017, 11:08 AM)
Both are different things, one is memory one is CPU.

If you are running low on memory then adding more memory will fix the issue, but if the culprit is the slow CPU (4th gen i5 is still kicking a** these days BTW unless you are doing heavy CPU stuffs on it), then adding more memory won't be able to solve the issue.

And nope, 16GB is not overkill, it depends on your usage pattern and common practice on memory management.
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U mean 4th generation i5 4570 is still fast to run all the latest application these days?
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post Jun 9 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Jun 9 2017, 11:16 AM)
U mean 4th generation i5 4570 is still fast to run all the latest application these days?
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I did say it is fast UNLESS you run heavy stuff with it, so it depends on what you do with your PC (or what you use for), there are many application these days and it is impossible to cover all of them under same category, if you do a lot of heavy video rendering, 3D rendering etc then the i5 will be noticeably slower than Ryzen 5 1600 in terms of the time needed to complete an operation.

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post Jun 9 2017, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 9 2017, 11:22 AM)
I did say it is fast UNLESS you run heavy stuff with it, so it depends on what you do with your PC (or what you use for), there are many application these days and it is impossible to cover all of them under same category, if you do a lot of heavy video rendering, 3D rendering etc then the i5 will be noticeably slower than Ryzen 5 1600 in terms of the time needed to complete an operation.
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Minimum RAM for Windows 7 or 10 is required minimum 8GB these days? 4GB RAM is like not enough to run Windows nowdays.
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post Jun 9 2017, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Jun 9 2017, 06:27 PM)
Minimum RAM for Windows 7 or 10 is required minimum 8GB these days? 4GB RAM is like not enough to run Windows nowdays.
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Official system requirements stated 2GB RAM for 64 bit OS, that's the minimum value recommended by Microsoft.

Some users don't do intense stuff with their PC, only email, light browsing, videos & music etc, 4GB is enough for these super easy and light weight tasks.

8GB is a common value nowadays if you are a normal user (light to medium multitasking, gaming etc.), 16GB or more if you are a heavy user.

My office rig only has 4GB of RAM, my usage pattern on this rig is light and only for email, light browsing and music, 4GB is enough for me, so until now I still haven't upgrade it to 8GB yet, so in conclusion, it depends on your usage pattern, if you aren't craving for more memory, then getting more memory will not speed up your PC, it is like you build 3 lanes road in a kampung but then the demand is not there yet (low traffic flow) and you expand the lane again to 6 lanes, isn't it a waste of resource and money? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 9 2017, 07:18 PM)
Official system requirements stated 2GB RAM for 64 bit OS, that's the minimum value recommended by Microsoft.

Some users don't do intense stuff with their PC, only email, light browsing, videos & music etc, 4GB is enough for these super easy and light weight tasks.

8GB is a common value nowadays if you are a normal user (light to medium multitasking, gaming etc.), 16GB or more if you are a heavy user.

My office rig only has 4GB of RAM, my usage pattern on this rig is light and only for email, light browsing and music, 4GB is enough for me, so until now I still haven't upgrade it to 8GB yet, so in conclusion, it depends on your usage pattern, if you aren't craving for more memory, then getting more memory will not speed up your PC, it is like you build 3 lanes road in a kampung but then the demand is not there yet (low traffic flow) and you expand the lane again to 6 lanes, isn't it a waste of resource and money?  tongue.gif
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What processor is ur office pc and at home wat processor are you using?
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QUOTE(christina1 @ Jun 9 2017, 07:48 PM)
What processor is ur office pc and at home wat processor are you using?
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Office rig: i3 3210 + 4GB RAM

Main rig: i7 6700K + 16GB RAM (in my siggy, for gaming and entertainment usage)

HTPC rig: i5 4460 + 8GB RAM (from my old rig, put in living room)
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post Jun 10 2017, 01:32 PM

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can recommend cheapest mobo for ryzen 7 that have m.2 slot?
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Jun 10 2017, 01:32 PM)
can recommend cheapest mobo for ryzen 7 that have m.2 slot?
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Asus Prime B350M-A is RM445 at C-Zone.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 10 2017, 02:36 PM)
Asus Prime B350M-A is RM445 at C-Zone.
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post Jun 10 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 10 2017, 02:36 PM)
Asus Prime B350M-A is RM445 at C-Zone.
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bro, by the way got mini itx mobo for ryzen? can recommend?
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Jun 10 2017, 02:09 PM)
bro, by the way got mini itx mobo for ryzen? can recommend?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jun 9 2017, 07:18 PM)
Official system requirements stated 2GB RAM for 64 bit OS, that's the minimum value recommended by Microsoft.

Some users don't do intense stuff with their PC, only email, light browsing, videos & music etc, 4GB is enough for these super easy and light weight tasks.

8GB is a common value nowadays if you are a normal user (light to medium multitasking, gaming etc.), 16GB or more if you are a heavy user.

My office rig only has 4GB of RAM, my usage pattern on this rig is light and only for email, light browsing and music, 4GB is enough for me, so until now I still haven't upgrade it to 8GB yet, so in conclusion, it depends on your usage pattern, if you aren't craving for more memory, then getting more memory will not speed up your PC, it is like you build 3 lanes road in a kampung but then the demand is not there yet (low traffic flow) and you expand the lane again to 6 lanes, isn't it a waste of resource and money?  tongue.gif
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Always thought having more memory is gonna make my pc fast. Well shall I wait till end of this year since Intel is coming out with much more powerful processor than Ryzen 5 and 7 or just upgrade to Ryzen 5. BTW I am just a normal user so stick with i5 4570 8GB RAM should be enough at the moment.

Is ur i5 4460 desktop pc fast enough for gaming with 8GB RAM?

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Jun 10 2017, 07:18 PM)
Always thought having more memory is gonna make my pc fast. Well shall I wait till end of this year since Intel is coming out with much more powerful processor than Ryzen 5 and 7 or just upgrade to Ryzen 5. BTW I am just a normal user so stick with i5 4570 8GB RAM should be enough at the moment.

Is ur i5 desktop pc fast enough for gaming with 8GB RAM?
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This "normal user" term, it depends on how you define it and what's your usage pattern, no heavy stuff involved? Stick with what you have, you cannot feel the difference if your usage pattern is light when you upgrade to a faster CPU, observe the usage in task manager to understand which hardware is actually causing the slow down.

I don't game with my i5 HTPC anymore, but previously it was a gaming rig paired with GTX970, no problem running games with this setup.
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post Jun 11 2017, 07:13 AM

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[Budget]

5k including FreeSync monitor

[Purpose]

1080p gaming at 60fps at high settings. Games include Witcher 3, Dark Souls 3, Modded Skyrim, Mass Effect series, Dragon Age Series

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

1TB 2.5" 5400rpm HGST HDD

[Location]

Kuala Lumpur

Hi all,

I'm still working on my new build. I have written up this "basic" combination of parts for my purpose above:

Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
G. Skill Ripjaws V 2800Mhz 8GB - 313
WD Green 120GB - 254
Gigabyte RX 580 8GB Aorus - 1439
Tecware F3 - 124
Cooler Master VS550 - 365
LG 24MP68VQ - 583
Total - 4597

Let's say I want to cukupkan the cost to 5k. I have a few upgrade options in mind:

Option A - Upgrade RAM to 16gb 3200Mhz memory - Corsair Vengeance LED 3200Mhz 2x8GB (647)
Option B - Upgrade case to Fractal Design Mini Define Mini C (385)
Option C - Upgrade PSU to EVGA Supernova G3 550W (499)

I know that ram is easier to upgrade in the future, and case and psu are important parts that should be spent money on and also harder to upgrade later on. However I still can't decide.

I have done the math, and to get to 5k, I can only go with either:

- option A and C (5065)
- or option B and C (4992)

I can also go with A and B but that will give me 5192, a little over budget. I might consider since I would get a much higher quality, better looking case, but still get fast 16gb ram and decent psu.

Simply put: when building this first time pc, should I choose more ram or better case + psu? Ram can upgrade in the future; might be better to futureproof case and psu.

Opinions?

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