[Budget]

5k including FreeSync monitor

[Purpose]

1080p gaming at 60fps at high settings. Games include Witcher 3, Dark Souls 3, Modded Skyrim, Mass Effect series, Dragon Age Series

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

1TB 2.5" 5400rpm HGST HDD

[Location]

Kuala Lumpur

Hi all,

I'm still working on my new build. I have written up this "basic" combination of parts for my purpose above:

Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
G. Skill Ripjaws V 2800Mhz 8GB - 313
WD Green 120GB - 254
Gigabyte RX 580 8GB Aorus - 1439
Tecware F3 - 124
Cooler Master VS550 - 365
LG 24MP68VQ - 583
Total - 4597

Let's say I want to cukupkan the cost to 5k. I have a few upgrade options in mind:

Option A -  Upgrade RAM to 16gb 3200Mhz memory - Corsair Vengeance LED 3200Mhz 2x8GB (647)
Option B -  Upgrade case to Fractal Design Mini Define Mini C (385)
Option C -  Upgrade PSU to EVGA Supernova G3 550W (499)

I know that ram is easier to upgrade in the future, and case and psu are important parts that should be spent money on and also harder to upgrade later on. However I still can't decide.

I have done the math, and to get to 5k, I can only go with either:

- option A and C (5065)
- or option B and C (4992)

I can also go with A and B but that will give me 5192, a little over budget. I might consider since I would get a much higher quality, better looking case, but still get fast 16gb ram and decent psu.

Simply put: when building this first time pc, should I choose more ram or better case + psu? Ram can upgrade in the future; might be better to futureproof case and psu.

Opinions?

Get better power supply like Super Flower Leadex Gold or EVGA Supernova. Another option is Samsung 850 Evo 250GB. Casing also matters. Bigger casing tends to accumulate heat at lower rate.

Can you give me more insight on how much performance will be impacted if I choose 8gb 2800mhz ram compared to 16gb 3200mhz ram? Not only is this less ram, but also slower (I can't seem to find 3200mhz 8gb ram kits), which impacts ryzen's performance.

How much frames will I be losing? Is the performance loss noticeable? Is it worth cutting to get a better case and psu?

Just watch the price. If the added price for the RAM speed enables you to buy better CPU or GPU, ignore it. Better CPU or GPU still trumps higher RAM speed.

I'm already set on cpu and gpu; ryzen 5 1600 and rx 580 8gb I am sure will satisfy my needs. The only dilemma here is that the added price for ram speed enables me to buy a better case and psu. With that said, how much will the performance impact be if I keep the same cpu and gpu but lower the ram size and speed? Keeping in mind that lowering the ram size and speed won't get me a better cpu and gpu (but better case and psu)

EDIT: I think I understand what you mean by that now. You're talking about if the price itself is high enough to be able to upgrade the cpu/gpu; not whether if I am actually upgrading them. Sorry, my bad

EDIT 2: Right, so I've done the math and found that the price difference in jumping from 8gb 2800mhz to 16gb 3200mhz is 334. With 334 the most I can do is move from 1600 to 1600X; can't get into R7 range. (R5 1600 is 1039, R7 1700 is already 1599, RM560 difference). As for gpu, the cost of current gpu is 1439, add with 334 is 1773 which is still in the range of RX 580 and 1060 6gb; can't get into 1070. So I guess it is worth the upgrade, yes? Am I correct?

Yes, you can find Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming at RM1799. Just look for it at Garage Sales.

You still havent answered my question about ram performance, difference between 8gb 2800mhz and 16gb 3200mhz

Guys can you recommend me a rig for bitcoin mining? I just need the rig and not the other stuff. Also don't bother with the casing as I plan to just pin it on a board. I don't have a see budget yet.

Not much. 16GB RAM size is the future though.

How many GPU do you plan to invest for Bitcoin mining?

RX470/480/570/580 are all out of stock now, so your last hope would be GTX1060 (and above).

It is better to set a budget or at least the ROI so we can come out with a suggestion.

I used idealtech pc builder and the cheapest mobo I could find has 3 slots for gpu so I guess I plan to use 3 gpu. I was hoping I could get back my ROI in 18 to 24 months?

18 to 24 months is a very long period, based on current rate, you should be able to start earning in just 3 months time with GTX1060 (ROI in ~90 days), so I will start with GTX1060 first since AMD cards are out of stock everywhere currently.

Intel Pentium G4560 ~ around RM 250
Cheap H110 mobo with at least 3 PCIe x 1 slot  ~ around RM 250
8GB RAM ~ around RM 275 (4GB is also fine)
GTX1060 6GB ~ around RM 1300 (x 3)
500GB/1TB HDD or 120GB SSD ~ around RM 200
> 750W 80+ Platinum PSU ~ start from around RM 700
PCIe Riser ~ around RM 50 (x 3)
Open Bench Case ~ depends on which one you get, price may vary, just assume it to be around RM 300

Total cost will be around 6k.

hi. wanna ask. im using tecware edge with 3 stock fans, but all powered up by molex. so i cant control the speed. the fan sound a bit loud for me. so, i want to controll all 3 fans from desktop. im using asus h110m-k. help pls. i dont know whats the difference between splitter & fan hub.

Spilter is you plug more than a single fan into your motherboard hub, not advice to doing that if your total fan rating is more than 1A as the mobo fan header generally only accept below or equal 1A for proper usage.
Fan Hub is a separate device which you plug all your fans into and one of the cable is to plug on your mobo header to send PWM signal, this is powered by the PSU.

IMHO, i suggest you go for fan hub if you have more than 3 fans.

I think yours is a 3 pin, it comes with the case. So you can't control the speed via BIOS/UEFI. If you wish to do so, get PWM fans.

You can read more at  Fan Control

but can i control the speed via asus ai suite?(something like that)

and can you suggest me 1-2 fan hub for me?

Hello all, please help to recommend me a build with the below budget,

[Budget]
MYR 3500 (CPU only)

[Purpose]
FPS gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
N/A

[Monitor resolution]
1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Overwatch

[Personal preferences]
Open to suggestions

[Location]
Melaka

Software control like Asus Suite can control fans, but those are voltage controlled. Between 5v to 12v,  the software just regulates how much voltage goes to the fans to control the speed. But you need to plug in the fan connector directly to the fan header. You may use the fan spliter but it will detect as 1 fan.

IF you use FAN HUB, it will fully run the fan in full speed. Unless you get This Fan Hub, which have a switch to manually control the voltage.

Another suggestion is to swap the existing case fans to PWM ones, like the Arctic F12 or other brand you prefer.