i suggest ts get female sg frm another breeder. belle: whether its u selling or yr bf.... yr name is already tarnished here. i pity the 10 sg that u r rearing to make profit. sounds like a joey mill to me. yr selling something, whether is inconvenient to drop yr dog off is not an issue, but just excuse.

also, pls dont mis-use god's name by swearing this n that

hamster9,
it would be better if u just state here what solutions that u want,
I'm pretty sure BelleG is not on purpose of selling the male SG.
She's just lack of infos about SG,
I'm sure she already learned her lesson by now.
The ending can be nice and peaceful if both of u can talk in proper mode.
BelleG, don't forget to say sorry to hamster9.

Kudos. Finally an action-oriented conterpost.
Personally I do think that the purposes of this thread are plain simple:

1) Most importantly, What is BelleG going to do (not say, nor defend nor give excuse or reasons for the faults and errors) in facing all these issues. Remember, when you do business and you're earning people's money, payers don't listen to talks and/or excuses, they want actions and solutions. So stop the blabber and walk the talk.

2) Secondly, whether BelleG is going to have and extra flashy tag? But seriously guys, even if you get to go as far as banning her from selling from this forum, if there's still a will, SG's might still be sold at the same unethical manner to people who take SG's as living toys.

Anyway, hope this helps everyone regain their direction in this thread.

TS, if you are not happy with the SG the seller sold to you, the seller is very willing to take back the SG and refund you. from what i read...the seller has lack of experience in handling SGs.
And SGs tend to be abit clingy in new environment. I experienced that when i first bought mine.
No point making assumptions. Get your refund, and get another female Sg somewhere else.

MY humble opinion,
no point arguing here as the buyer not willing to return back the SG and get her refund.
Buyer(hamster9) in this case willing to take good care of her SG as i believe she love the bald-headed joey(where can u get such unique SG) very much.

like hungheykwun said,get female SG from someone else if u are not happy with BelleG so call professional service!!!

U have make your statement here,so let the matter rest.

Perhaps hamster9 wanna step up and say something?

It's not about the refund. How will you feel if you find out that your son's wife have balls?

Come on!!!...Seller willing to buy back the SG and i don't see the point of "How will you feel if you find out that your son's wife have balls?"

What are u trying to do here,,,Flame more fire!!
Seller have make mistake and willing to refund and are u telling me u "die die" still wan the son's wife with balls! even though seller willing to take back the son's wife balls?

haiz!!


This post has been edited by MakNok: Mar 5 2007, 12:15 PM

My sentiments exactly.

I don't quite know what the TS wants from the seller now.

If the TS wants to keep the male SG (even though it's not what was expected), then there is no dispute to continue. Otherwise, return it and get the refund.

BTW, there is no requirement for sellers to be professionals or experts to offer and deal in this forum. If this were so, I think there will be very few sales threads posted (how many of us are really qualified?). It is up to the buyer to decide if the seller is someone you would want to deal with now and in future.

I'll probably freak out. After which I guess I'll question my son's judgement and inclinations......

Thought TS has already made it clear for what she wants?

Then the TS is guilty of abusing this forum if she has no intention to resolve any dispute. If she wants to take no further action, then close this thread.

The dispute tag is not based on votes. There are thousands of LYN members. It would be near impossible to get a majority vote on anything like this. However, one can request (nicely, please) the admin to attach the tag to the complainee.

Oh, wait. At least she brings this useful alert to us, doesn't she?

I don't see how she has abused it. It's a right decision for this thread.

I think you need to read the guidelines very carefully. Especially line 1 and line 7.

Meanwhile, I think I'm getting very close to breaking rule 3 (if I haven't already done so). So I'd better shut up.

I guess it's not us who should be arguing about the guideline for now. We're obviously on the line of the third rule.

Avoiding this topic?

the way i see it....admin should close this thread.
it is getting no where.

As Seller have offer to take back her SG and do full refund.

but the Buyer don't wan to take up the offer...

then the topic should be close.

Should be no more flaming going on.

Be reasonable.
If u wan "reasonable price pet" which we can acquire "at a good deal" at lowyat compared if we were to buy from Pet Shop.
then we should be reasonable happy with it......of course in this case BelleG mixed up the sex gender.

But at less,she did offer refund which the buyer(hamster9) refused coz she love the adorable lovable bald-headed(a bit nia) SG which show she really creature lover.

Give BelleG chance to improve herself and at less she give animal lover SG a chance to adopt the creature at reasonable price compared if we will to get it from pet shop.

Let make peace!!
Maybe we can all yum char...i belanja!!
WE can only improve more if we learn by our mistake.

and No one is perfect!!!

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Added on March 5, 2007, 4:11 pmhamster9 or BelleG.
thought u waiting for hamster9 to respond?


This post has been edited by MakNok: Mar 5 2007, 04:11 PM

I'm here waiting for hamster9 to reply not avoiding....
no point for me to talk cos d finger is alr pointing to my side
For d ppl who has deal wit me, they knpow better, i even go to their place in d middle of d nite cos their dogs r sick....
For student in TAR college who doesn't hv cars, i even help them to sent their dog to vet n offer med to their dog
If this is wat u guys call irresponsible seller, i do not know wat to say
For those third parties who hv only "HEARD" d stories from one party but without any facts supporting it, pls dun jump into comclusion.

I alr apologized to her bout d wrong SG, n since she's so upset bout d male SG, she better return bck to me, dun forced her self to keep it. we r more than happy to hv our joeys bck....

BTWN, our 5 pair of SG is not used for breeding purposed, we actually adopting those SG from owner who abandoned them. Originally we bought 2 pairs, the rest r adopted. D reason why we sell d joeys is tat we cannot afford to keep them.... We dun breed them on purpose, it's nature tat they hv jpeys, cos we know tat joeys hv to be keep in pairs, how do we controled d birth? I really hv no idea


As i hv always mentioned, GODS knows better on wat happened, whether who's right or wrong

P/S : dun simply accused ppl for using GOD's name.....

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Added on March 5, 2007, 4:56 pmI'm not defending mysef or saying myself is right, but for d third party who only accept stories from one parties, d existance of bias is very obvious....

Does it mean tat d seller is definitely d one who's wrong? n d buyer r always right?

Not neccessary both party give u facts, there's a possibilty of misleading in both parties stories. So do u think it's fair for third party to interupt n conclude? The best solution should come from d buyer n seller. If someone is here juz to get support from public to create chaos, pls bear in mind this section in for forumer to resolve in peace manner n look for d best solution for d problem

To all d third parties, Pls do put ur self in both parties shoes.

I wouldnt mind if u guys banned me if i dun make any clarification or juz run way wit no solution given... but since solution n apologies is there for d mistake so it's no longer a HUGE issue

This post has been edited by BelleG: Mar 5 2007, 04:56 PM

i am not here to support BelleG nor hamster9.

As i see it...if buyer not happy with her pet as expected...then by all means return back to BelleG and get her refund! and settle this case once and for all.


And to those people who questioned her integrity,intention or her knowledge in SG,
hey!!!! as BelleG reply indicated she is learning along the way....providing "reasonble affordable pet" for those who adores SG.

And as for suiteng....u got some thing against BelleG base on your reply in this thread.


1st u say
"Perhaps hamster9 wanna step up and say something?

It's not about the refund. How will you feel if you find out that your son's wife have balls?"

then lator u post;

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May i know why u are so piss off with BelleG???[COLOR=red]

All i see....hamster9 not happy with her purchase initially,BelleG offer to take it back but hamster9 decided to keep it as it is one of the kind small patch or baldness SG(unique mah!).

This topic should be close as hamster9 have decide not to take up BelleG offer of refund!!!!

This post has been edited by MakNok: Mar 5 2007, 05:10 PM

I am creating awareness of others that such is not acceptable in Pet's dealing. It's not like motherboards and RAMs when one can exchange later on as this is a living creature with feelings. I am clearly afraid that what would happens if the SG would land in the wrong hands. Anyway it took me ages in opening this tread namely I know there is no solution towards it but things have gone far enough (based on other forummers told me via PM).

Clearly I see that some here may not share the same feelings of a Pet Lover. And I repeat that the trading done is a living creature with feelings and emotions (for SG owners, you know this) not a refundable motherboard or RAMs.

*to be added later*

I have nothing against BelleG nor I am helping hamster9. I'm just a normal pet lover and I see this as an irresponsible act, that's why I speak up.

And how many times should I mention that this is not about the refund?

Well, most of the forummer assume that every seller that brought up in this trade zone dispute thread is the one with fault and thread starter is always right.
Dun believe me, check all incoming dispute and see how they post to the thread.
Me hope this thread will be the example, so that we dun simple accuse the seller without first understanding the situations.
Thanks.