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post Mar 18 2021, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 18 2021, 09:02 AM)
thanks a million..........after reading and learning from here it seem i am getting even more confused ....lol

now 4k tv comes into the scene apart from smart tv and andriod tv and normal tv

looking for simple setup for home tv.....looking thru some tv anything less then 50" and less or around rm2k.....found android xioami 50" but seems that netflix (this is to watch movies?) not included......then saw mi tv stick and mi tv box that have netflix.....does this service for watching movies need to register and pay? can this tv stick or tv box watch our local tv news/stations or need a decoder like astro or njoi?

sorry for asking stupid and silly questions......thank you
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These box usually allows you to install the app in this case Netflix but you still need to subscribe to Netflix to watch legally. Certain boxes are able to watch Netflix Disney etc up to 4k quality while most only managed up to 480p max due. So it depends on you
QUOTE(waruna @ Mar 18 2021, 09:44 AM)
Hi guys..

Is there anyone use any box with only 4G internet instead of fibre?

Coz I'm not sure whether it's worth or not to buy android / other box without fibre internet coz i only use 4G LTE router.

But so far have no problem stream any movies with my smart tv.

Seeking your advice, thanks in advance guys!
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All boxes are able to connect either via WiFi or LAN. So it sold be no problem to connect the b kpd via WiFi to your LTE router
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post Mar 18 2021, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 18 2021, 09:02 AM)
thanks a million..........after reading and learning from here it seem i am getting even more confused ....lol

now 4k tv comes into the scene apart from smart tv and andriod tv and normal tv

looking for simple setup for home tv.....looking thru some tv anything less then 50" and less or around rm2k.....found android xioami 50" but seems that Netflix (this is to watch movies?) not included......then saw mi tv stick and mi tv box that have Netflix.....does this service for watching movies need to register and pay? can this tv stick or tv box watch our local tv news/stations or need a decoder like astro or njoi?

sorry for asking stupid and silly questions......thank you
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4K UHD is just the resolution.. Has nothing to do with the TV being smart or how smart. Anyways...TVs today, unless it's a really good 1080p TV? You should only worry about getting a 4K UHD TV. That's not to say that all 4K displays are better than 1080P displays. An outstanding 1080p display is better than a subpar or meh 4K display. Hmm, I didn't want to make this thread to be about TVs, cuz it is not.. but since we are at this point.. Let me try to simplify the whole Smart vs Non-Smart TV issue.

*Normal or Non-Smart TVs are just that...Purely plug stuff in like antenna, dvb-t2, astro, etc.. They only have a menu to adjust the usual TV stuff like the picture mode, audio, etc.. They do not or have no need to connect to the internet. Don't ship with any media apps like Netflix or Youtube, etc. At most, a video player for connected USB devices. You DO NOT want these types these days. So avoid.

*Smart TVs can do everything above and then some more. They can connect to the internet. However, I break this down into 3 categories..

Smart-But-Not-So-Smart TVs: These ship with a limited number of media streaming services..basically preloaded apps like only YouTube and nothing else. There's no app store like we know it to install additional apps. Who buys them will be stuck with such and unless the manufacturer pushes an update. No choice, have to get an external box for literally everything else. You DO NOT want these types these days. So avoid.
Truly Smart TVs_1: Android TV OS-powered TVs.... Well, these pretty much explain themselves. They are TVs that run Google's Android TV OS instead of proprietary OSes as mentioned below. Logically, this should be the best option right. And in some cases, it does work well. Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Kodi, several android apps, firmware updates don't break the system, etc all work fine.. If so? then woohoo! You hit the jackpot. Except, and as I mentioned earlier. Like smartphones, some TVs perform better than others. You buy mid-range to flagship levels? You get decent to excellent performance.. No sudden performance drops or lags.. One buys lower-tier stuff and you easily open yourself to issues. And me? I rank my TV alongside fridges, ovens, or gas cookers. I expect them to always perform once switched on.. No fuss or additional drama.
Truly Smart TVs_2: These TVs are IMO (for now) the best option. They run proprietary OSes like Samsung's SmartHub or the newer Tizen, LG's WebOS, Sharp's Roku, or even Huawei's HongmengOS or HarmonyOS, or some Xiaomi TVs. I mentioned these earlier. Basically, you get a dedicated TV-brand-specific app store to install apps from. Apps are updated just like your smartphone.. Manually or automatically updated in the background. Occasionally, they receive full firmware updates with improvements or bug fixes, etc. Unfortunately, you will require a separate dedicated Android box to install and run Android OS apps and services. Why do I say they are the best option for merging both worlds? Because manufacturers like Samsung & LG (and now Huawei...but I recommend staying away for now) currently have the best TV OSes. Tons of app support and the UI is great. Think of Apple devices vs the numerous Android OS devices out there. Google improves Android TV and we are happy..but..that new update will only work perfectly for some TVs and not others. So manufacturers step in and try to make sense of the new firmware from Google and mold it for their own TVs. Sometimes it works well and other times it doesn't. Now in this case and because the TV and the OS are built and maintained by the same manufacturer? Things tend to proceed much more smoothly, as who better understands their hardware and software than the manufacturer. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(waruna @ Mar 18 2021, 09:44 AM)
Hi guys..

Is there anyone use any box with only 4G internet instead of fibre?

Coz I'm not sure whether it's worth or not to buy android / other box without fibre internet coz i only use 4G LTE router.

But so far have no problem stream any movies with my smart tv.

Seeking your advice, thanks in advance guys!
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Boxes don't tend to differentiate between a fiberized connection or mobile data. As long as got an active, fast, and stable enough connection to the internet? They should work fine. Where you might face issues is if there are specific blocks on your mobile telco vs none on a home broadband network. Like, say for torrenting or visiting certain websites. High chance you get throttled. Just ensure that whatever telco service you are using works well in your area. Data quota usage all... up to you la.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Mar 19 2021, 01:44 AM
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post Mar 18 2021, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 17 2021, 11:28 PM)
Lol... This one is just insane... A "TV Box" cum video conference tool, cum IoT Hub, etc that sits on top of your TV.. rclxub.gif ..
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If they decide to send you one for review, I'm just wondering how long would it take you to do a video review 🤔

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post Mar 19 2021, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Mar 18 2021, 06:31 PM)
If they decide to send you one for review, I'm just wondering how long would it take you to do a video review 🤔
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Oh my... Might have to reconsider that one then.. haha.. Got a full plate of other stuff to review & put out before April 1st, and even after that... sweat.gif
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post Mar 19 2021, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(StevenL @ Mar 18 2021, 11:53 AM)
These box usually allows you to install the app in this case Netflix but you still need to subscribe to Netflix to watch legally. Certain boxes are able to watch Netflix Disney etc up to 4k quality while most only managed up to 480p max due. So it depends on you

All boxes are able to connect either via WiFi or LAN. So it sold be no problem to connect the b kpd via WiFi to your LTE router
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thanks......really appreciates for this information, really helpful to senior citizen like me to jump into new technology
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post Mar 19 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 18 2021, 02:13 PM)
4K UHD is just the resolution.. Has nothing to do with the TV being smart or how smart. Anyways...TVs today, unless it's a really good 1080p TV? You should only worry about getting a 4K UHD TV. That's not to say that all 4K displays are better than 1080P displays. An outstanding 1080p display is better than a subpar or meh 4K display. Hmm, I didn't want to make this thread to be about TVs, cuz it is not.. but since we are at this point.. Let me try to simplify the whole Smart vs Non-Smart TV issue.

*Normal or Non-Smart TVs are just that...Purely plug stuff in like antenna, dvb-t2, astro, etc.. They only have a menu to adjust the usual TV stuff like the picture mode, audio, etc.. They do not or have no need to connect to the internet. Don't ship with any media apps like Netflix or Youtube, etc. At most, a video player for connected USB devices. You DO NOT want these types these days. So avoid.

*Smart TVs can do everything above and then some more. They can connect to the internet. However, I break this down into 3 categories..

Smart-But-Not-So-Smart TVs: These ship with a limited number of media streaming services..basically preloaded apps like only YouTube and nothing else. There's no app store like we know it to install additional apps. Who buys them will be stuck with such and unless the manufacturer pushes an update. No choice, have to get an external box for literally everything else. You DO NOT want these types these days. So avoid.
Truly Smart TVs_1: Android TV OS-powered TVs.... Well, these pretty much explain themselves. They are TVs that run Google's Android TV OS instead of proprietary OSes as mentioned below. Logically, this should be the best option right. And in some cases, it does work well. Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Kodi, several android apps, firmware updates don't break the system, etc all work fine.. If so? then woohoo! You hit the jackpot. Except, and as I mentioned earlier. Like smartphones, some TVs perform better than others. You buy mid-range to flagship levels? You get decent to excellent performance.. No sudden performance drops or lags.. One buys lower-tier stuff and you easily open yourself to issues. And me? I rank my TV alongside fridges, ovens, or gas cookers. I expect them to always perform once switched on.. No fuss or additional drama.
Truly Smart TVs_2: These TVs are IMO (for now) the best option. They run proprietary OSes like Samsung's SmartHub or the newer Tizen, LG's WebOS, Sharp's Roku, or even Huawei's HongmengOS or HarmonyOS, or some Xiaomi TVs. I mentioned these earlier. Basically, you get a dedicated TV-brand-specific app store to install apps from. Apps are updated just like your smartphone.. Manually or automatically updated in the background. Occasionally, they receive full firmware updates with improvements or bug fixes, etc. Unfortunately, you will require a separate dedicated Android box to install and run Android OS apps and services. Why do I say they are the best option for merging both worlds? Because manufacturers like Samsung & LG (and now Huawei...but I recommend staying away for now) currently have the best TV OSes. Tons of app support and the UI is great. Think of Apple devices vs the numerous Android OS devices out there. Google improves Android TV and we are happy..but..that new update will only work perfectly for some TVs and not others. So manufacturers step in and try to make sense of the new firmware from Google and mold it for their own TVs. Sometimes it works well and other times it doesn't. Now in this case and because the TV and the OS are built and maintained by the same manufacturer? Things tend to proceed much more smoothly, as who better understands their hardware and software than the manufacturer.  biggrin.gif
Boxes don't tend to differentiate between a fiberized connection or mobile data. As long as got an active, fast, and stable enough connection to the internet? They should work fine. Where you might face issues is if there are specific blocks on your mobile telco vs none on a home broadband network. Like, say for torrenting or visiting certain websites. High chance you get throttled. Just ensure that whatever telco service you are using works well in your area. Data quota usage all... up to you la.
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thanks........this information are really helpful for me......now i am a bit more clearer on this new TV technology and types available......now roughly i know what i am going to do next to re-setup my home TV (after 2nd time got fried by lightning)

really appreciates your all for the precious input and information........cheers.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 19 2021, 01:46 AM)
Oh my... Might have to reconsider that one then.. haha.. Got a full plate of other stuff to review & put out before April 1st, and even after that... sweat.gif
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LoL... Good to hear that. Looking forward to your review
QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 19 2021, 09:49 AM)
thanks......really appreciates for this information, really helpful to senior citizen like me to jump into new technology
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My only adv of you are getting an android box, do get android boxes which are ATV unrooted version
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post Mar 20 2021, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Mar 19 2021, 07:20 PM)
LoL... Good to hear that. Looking forward to your review

My only adv of you are getting an android box, do get android boxes which are ATV unrooted version
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Sorry.....what's atv unrooted version?.......
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post Mar 21 2021, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 20 2021, 09:11 PM)
Sorry.....what's atv unrooted version?.......
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ATV is short for Android TV OS.
Unrooted = Non-rooted device.. No root.

Basically devices such as the Xiaomi MiBox and Mecool KM1 Deluxe I reviewed earlier. They are Google-certified devices running official ATV OSes without root.
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post Mar 22 2021, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 21 2021, 10:06 AM)
ATV is short for Android TV OS.
Unrooted = Non-rooted device.. No root.

Basically devices such as the Xiaomi MiBox and Mecool KM1 Deluxe I reviewed earlier. They are Google-certified devices running official ATV OSes without root.
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alright.....thanks for this info, but actually i really don't know what this means......sorry.....thousand apologies

trying to asked sellers from shoppe regarding their mi tv stick and mi tv box for more info and advises
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post Mar 25 2021, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 22 2021, 11:31 AM)
alright.....thanks for this info, but actually i really don't know what this means......sorry.....thousand apologies

trying to asked sellers from shoppe regarding their mi tv stick and mi tv box for more info and advises
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Here are some examples...

S905X3 TV boxes are a cheap good buy. However, it still depends on the box brand for performance and features. You can check out these 2 boxes I've reviewed before. Both got AMLogic S905X3 SoC & perform quite exceptionally.

Beelink GT1 Mini-â‘¡ (Rooted and running Regular Android)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4864579

Mecool KM1 Deluxe (No Root and running Android TV OS)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5062004
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post Mar 25 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 25 2021, 02:03 PM)
Here are some examples...

S905X3 TV boxes are a cheap good buy. However, it still depends on the box brand for performance and features. You can check out these 2 boxes I've reviewed before. Both got AMLogic S905X3 SoC & perform quite exceptionally.

Beelink GT1 Mini-â‘¡ (Rooted and running Regular Android)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4864579

Mecool KM1 Deluxe (No Root and running Android TV OS)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5062004
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thanks a million......will look into this.......very much appreciated for all this information given.....just bought my tv(sony 55" coming on saturday)and now looking at tv box......thank you
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post Mar 26 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 25 2021, 03:32 PM)
thanks a million......will look into this.......very much appreciated for all this information given.....just bought my tv(sony 55" coming on saturday)and now looking at tv box......thank you
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voncrane.....really appreciate for your info.....if ur free or anyone can help or guide an oldman on this.....

situation : tv and njoi fried by lightning....so now i even taken off the antenna at roof to prevent this from happening again (had many issues with lightning at my home in puchong....tv....njoi....modem changed 3 times....lights.....even the the roof kena few year back)

available : just bought sony (kd55x7500h) tv and home unifi 100mbps (with unifitv in the package but never know how to use this as decoder not provided)

problem : the shop say if want to watch local TV stations needs a TV box if without roof antenna

planning : to get a android TV box....was looking at mi TV stick or mi TV box (saw in youtube as easy to operate) but shopee seller re-commandeered tanix tx6s 4gb+64gb with 10k+ programmes installed also because bigger ram, bigger memory, easy to use......my idea on mi TV stick was getting cheap TV box to try and learn as i read around there's many issues on cannot watch tv or movies after certain time rendering the TV box not usable, installing apks/softwares also looks difficult....if end of the day this tv box cant work, i will go back to install roof antenna again

note : most properly i will get this tx6s tomorrow during sales in either shopee or lazada, hopefully it works for me

sorry for long wall of texts.....any information will be very helpful and appreciated........thanks a million and have a great day.....cheers

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If unifitv included, they should give you the unifi tv box as wel.

Btw, you might not even need to get any android box if you tv comes with Android tv. Unless it’s one of those tv that comes with own os (web os for some lg tv)

Don’t worry much about installing apk and setup since it’s relatively easy to setup
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 26 2021, 12:20 PM)
C2KBAS2005

If unifitv included, they should give you the unifi tv box as wel.

Btw, you might not even need to get any android box if you tv comes with Android tv. Unless it’s one of those tv that comes with own os (web os for some lg tv)

Don’t worry much about installing apk and setup since it’s relatively easy to setup
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my unifi was lower speed package after few years later they upgrade my speed to 100mbps for same price package, that why i was not provided with the tv box unless i get the box from them with extra rm20 per month for 12 or 24 months package......so instead for paying this amount, i might as well buy my own tv box.....just my personal opinion

i know nothing on this new tv system works......that why i just want to buy a tv box and link up with the new tv to watch local stations and movie will be a bonus.

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 26 2021, 03:55 PM)
my unifi was lower speed package after few years later they upgrade my speed to 100mbps for same price package, that why i was not provided with the tv box unless i get the box from them with extra rm20 per month for 12 or 24 months package......so instead for paying this amount, i might as well buy my own tv box.....just my personal opinion

i know nothing on this new tv system works......that why i just want to buy a tv box and link up with the new tv to watch local stations and movie will be a bonus.
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I see, how much are you paying now?
Can you share the mode name for sony tv, likely it’s already got android tv built in
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 26 2021, 04:23 PM)
I see, how much are you paying now?
Can you share the mode name for sony tv, likely it’s already got android tv built in
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Unifi monthly rm80++.....consist of residential high speed Internet rm129(-rm70) + unifi play TV lite rm30

Sony 55" tv model kd55x7500h

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QUOTE(C2KBAS2005 @ Mar 26 2021, 09:34 PM)
Unifi monthly rm80++.....consist of residential high speed Internet rm129(-rm70) + unifi play TV lite rm30

Sony 55" tv model kd55x7500h
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that model already has buildin digital tv decoder..plus its an adroid tv too. no need to buy anything
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post Apr 1 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(dun_panic @ Mar 31 2021, 06:10 PM)
that model already has buildin digital tv decoder..plus its an adroid tv too. no need to buy anything
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too late, for old man to understand this modern tv setting up and using.....just bought tanix tx6s to try.......doesn't seem to be user friendly for old man sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

anyone can guide me to any information or videos on how to watch local tv stations in my andriod tv?

being doing a lot of searching......ended up very bad head-acne and confusing

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