I really have no idea. This TV box is still new to me and I haven't experience it yet.

I just brought Q5pro from forunner here and haven't arrive.

I want the Q5pro instead Q10 cause I don't need the internal HDD. I use NAS to stream.

Others function I need is the Youtube only.

Quite headache to choose wan.

Since I read the 1st page, AV is better on Himedia, than just get it.

Depends on your requirements and storage needs..

1. 16Gb in Q10 Pro vs 8Gb flash in Q5 Pro
2. Internal 3.5" SATA slot with Q10 Pro
3. Capacitive touchscreen on front panel on Q10 Pro, with overall bigger casing
4. Q10 Pro back-panel has Coaxial + USB 3.0 + open vent cooler fan
5. Q10 Pro black, Q5 Pro silver. Embarrassing stains on Q10 Pro may stand out more.
6. Q5 Pro is cheaper and has a smaller form factor.
7. They both share the same Chipset/SOC (HiSilicon Hi3798C V200 (Cortext A53) quad-core 64-bit processor & Mali-T720 GPU).

Yes, no warranty but it’s fine for me because I trust minix 🙂

Agreed.
A good software support always my consideration...
FYI android 5 is not able to install app in external drive(not rooted) n that’s y I choose minix u9 which is running Android 6

This post has been edited by zeroox: Oct 25 2017, 03:01 PM

Himedia Q10 Pro is available on Android 7, so which is better?

Can't argue with that. Currently on 3rd flagship device and reliability experience is the same.. Rock solid.. Though I would still suggest one buys local and with warranty, cuz one never knows.. Lemon units do exist.

My number one priority.

True, Great feature to have provided one has a good and fast enough drive/sd card attached. Else, once that crashes? Instant data loss.

AFAIK, there is better app compatibility on Lollipop than its successors. As in majority of ehem apps are more compatible on Lollipop. So Android 5 > Android 6 > Android 7. in addition, a higher OS version is irrelevant where shitty firmware are concerned. Still depends on the device and manufacturer.

In that case the Himedia Q10 Pro running on Lollipop should have better apps support then, but not the case.

After some readings, I have the conclusion that Himedia Q10 Pro will always provide better picture quality over Minix U9H, but U9H will provide better support for apps. So I guess for someone more concern about picture quality over the unsupported apps, as well as availability of USB 3.0 port, Q10 Pro is the way to go. Btw, I think both also don't support Dolby Vision.

Im going to lowyat to purchase Khadas Vim or other s905x devices. Which floor should I go. Do you guys have any shop to recommend or to avoid?

Tell us more about Khadas Vim, why it is your preference compared to other choices. Thanks.

Question to those users of minix and hiMedia, what kind of video quality improvement do you notice with q10/Q5 pro over the minix boxes?

Valid points. I do disagree on the HiMedia always have better PQ over the Neo U9-H. As based on past experiences, Minix devices' PQ do get improved upon with each firmware update. For both devices..No Dolby Vision. Even fewer Dolby Vision capable TVs and content out there. So not an issue at the moment or even the next few years.

I'm quite intrigued by the box and it may possibly be my next device.. See how their support goes. Hopefully the retain support and grow. It's a little bundle of Open Source DIY tinkerer's paradise, in the sense that if devices such as the RPI interest you, you'd take a shine ti the Khadas VIM2 box too. Appears very versatile with multiple OS and user functions.




PQ is a subjective perception. HiMedia Q10 Pro relies on HiSilicon's latest Hi3798C V200 SoC and its customizable Imprex Engine 2.0, with HDR-10 4K support. Dolby Vision was initially claimed, but no longer is. The Minix Neo U9-H doesn't boast any such additional engine and has been tested to find no discernible difference in picture quality compared to that of the Xiaomi Mi, Zidoo X9S or current king Nvidia Shield. One would have to test both devices side by side, playing the same content on identical TVs to compare. Alternatively capture uncompressed video signals from both devices for comparisons. IMO, one's TV type & PQ engine is more critical. Especially where up-scaling content is concerned.

Yeah I am looking for a box which I can tweak comfortably.

The current box which I have, MXQ pro+ 4K, is not very opened to tweaking, even though it is rooted. Can't find proven firmware for the device. The toothpick reset/boot recovery isn't working. Info from internet says, it is not even wired in the AV port. USB burning, I can't get it to recognized the USB at all. I last time I issued 'adb boot recovery', it went into a factory reset, wiped out all my customization, and I wasted a lot of time restoring my previous config.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Oct 26 2017, 03:22 PM

Yeah.. Merely looking at the casing, ports and potential.. Already has me over it.. The possibilities... . Sadly, projects like this if not well funded or backed by strong Open Source ideals, end up closing shop fast. Especially if some larger company invested in proprietary tech comes along and buys them off.. Cases like CyanogenMod and the Remix OS. I don't blame em.. Devs gotta eat.

Funny that the MXQ PRO+'s response to a recovery boot prompt is to promptly factory reset the device.. That's bad. True, majority of these Android boxes aren't tinkering tools. At most, gains access to recovery, OS dual-booting, rooting and proceeds carefully from there. It's a sensible play though, as they are mostly designed to perform first as stable media playback devices. For anything else, one has to look elsewhere. RPIs, HTPCs, etc. Guess this is where this Khadas VIM devices come in. Will keep an eye on them.

can get the latest OS always the good option but also higher risk to discover alots of bugs due to new and unstable unless the software team is strong enough solve them before install into the box...
well, thats just my own opinion over these 2 boxes...

I want tinkering ability like the raspberry pi but with s905x chipset. There are none other that better in that regards than khadas vim, IMO.

Unfortunately, none of the ktard shop at lowyat carry that item. Even the most ktard s905x is priced higher than khadas vim.

I guess i have to purchase from gearbest and hope for the best. Fortunately, khadas vim is on sale at gearbest for the next 5 days, iirc.

For those that plan to purchase khadas vim, i would recommend khadas vim(not vim2) 2gbram 16gb rom. Why? If the purpose is for media playing, s912 used by vim2 have some problem. See freaktab and libreelec forum.

I'm looking to buy this directly from the US
features look amazing.
wonder if anyone else is interested as well so we cn share on the shipping costs.

https://www.roku.com/products/streaming-stick-plus

my understanding of dolby vision support is the chip has internal 12 bit to 10 bit decoding...but no external pipeline, instead rely on HDR10 to the world...

currently moot as not many dolby vision source...so I wouldn't put dolby vision as priority

the imprex engine however allows more PQ tweaking to ones fancy...something extra is always good imho...but again depends on individual

every 6 months or so I do color calibration my system...imho if one doesn't color calibrate...then I can say PQ is really not that important

for example...I can straight away tell my vensmile PQ is inferior to my himedia q16... right now my vensmile hdmi out goes to my oppo hdmi in...and I use my oppo's darbee and hdmi output tweaking to get to the PQ that I like...

some people see the differences, some can't...some system can show the differences, some cant...some people don't really care...so...it really depends...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Oct 26 2017, 09:43 PM

Thanks for the heads up on which to get..

Rokus are nice and cater to a specific market than most seeking Android boxes. For such, navigating the UI on the Roku is definitely much easier and more intuitive.

Precisely..

I have had a few days to test out my Nvidia Shield and am sharing some preliminary findings. Keep in mind that these are based on my initial experience. Only had it for 3 days so didn't really have too much time to test it out.

UI - Clean and simple with some Nvidia products being promoted (games from the Geforce service). Not too bad but not fully customizable. For e.g. the first row is always the recommendations and this cannot be removed or relegated to the bottom. But you can block recommendations from specific apps. Overall, it does look prettier than Himedia or Minix but this is not a very important feature for me, so no complaints.
Some cons, I haven't figured out how to toggle between apps, right now it works more like IOS rather than Android coz I have to go to the home screen and click on the app again to go to it instead of having the open apps list and selecting the app I want.

PQ - Based on what I have seen, PQ is as good as or maybe even better than the Q5 Pro. Can't really say for sure whether its better than the Q5 Pro coz I just sold it and didn't test them side by side. It is definitely way ahead of Minix U1 and it really seems amazing to my eyes. This was an important criteria for me and I'm glad that it meets / exceeds my expectation and has the wow factor!

Performance - The performance is truly amazing! In Kodi, 70GB high bitrate files start playing immediately after clicking on it. Both the Q5 & U1 needed some time to open the files (U1 was longer than Q5). I am really amazed with this, even my gaming PC with an i5 & RX 480 is not capable of opening a file from my NAS this quickly. The same thing happens when I click on a 4K video on YouTube. It super fast & immediately opens in high resolution instead of ramping up slowly like it did with my U1. This is truly magical and something that needs to be experienced to fully appreciate.

HD audio pass-through - Its working in Kodi for most of the files I tested but I had 1 movie with audio sync issues (had no issues with this movie in either of my previous boxes). Need to test further to see if its an isolated case. Since I pipe all audio through my AVR, its important that audio works well coz sync problems are intolerable.

Well, that's all I am able to comment on right now, might add some comments later if I have something to share.

Thanks for the review and glad you are enjoying the device. Performance and PQ, that’s why it commands the big bucks and is crowned a beastly king. So... right call?