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post Feb 14 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 02:50 PM)
You asked if it's worth it

It is not.

Why you get offended ?

Gila , no wonder banks also don't want to entertain
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You're clearly out of your element here, you contributed literally nothing, at least my thread is always on top thanks to this pointless back and forth.

I asked if it's worth because I'm looking for people who have swapped engines into old cars before, people that has experience with it and simply seeking non-financial advice. Price for the engine I want is all out there, JPJ can endorse no problem those have been sorted by the helpful bunch.

If you're just looking to pick a bone instead of giving any sort of helpful information at all then ya know... what can I do.
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:16 PM

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The route you've taken isn't conventional, but I sense that its a risk that may turn out fulfilling later, depending on your motivations. Personally I wish I can restore an old car as a project too. Not many can understand the passion and drives this. They think it's 'not logical'.

Put it this way, what if TS bought a 'proper' car and later regretted the choice he made but couldn't turn back time cause he has lost more to depreciation and yet no where close to what he initially wanted, which is a project car. Then the logic would've been to buy a cheap car at the first place.

It all depends on point of view and some people here are just more used to the mainstream view and they nickpick their friend's failed projects as a deterrent factor that works to their views. Not that anything is wrong with that, but allow la for differing views.

Anyhow, the 323 is a beautiful car, I wish you all the best in your project and do keep us updated. Obviously you would already know that the journey is full of lows amongst the highs but if you are looking to enjoy the journey itself, I think you'll do just great thumbup.gif
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 03:03 PM)
You're clearly out of your element here, you contributed literally nothing, at least my thread is always on top thanks to this pointless back and forth.

I asked if it's worth because I'm looking for people who have swapped engines into old cars before, people that has experience with it and simply seeking non-financial advice. Price for the engine I want is all out there, JPJ can endorse no problem those have been sorted by the helpful bunch.

If you're just looking to pick a bone instead of giving any sort of helpful information at all then ya know... what can I do.
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People have done that already swap old engines into old cars and none have ever succeeded in keeping the car for very long. You can see yourself , there are no more converted cars on the roads anymore wiralutoons, civics , whatever all have gone away.

I have friends who all have gone down that road and all have regretted the time wasted , there is no quality in mechanics in Malaysia at all. And this was 15 years ago when the engines are 15 years younger.



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post Feb 14 2017, 03:36 PM

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This is the 4th page. I think it is time to employ the "if you find the post offending, don't reply to it" policy and move along.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 14 2017, 03:37 PM
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 03:17 PM)
People have done that already swap old engines into old cars and none have ever succeeded in keeping the car for very long. You can see yourself , there are no more converted cars on the roads anymore wiralutoons, civics , whatever all have gone away.

I have friends who all have gone down that road and all have regretted the time wasted , there is no quality in mechanics in Malaysia at all. And this was 15 years ago when the engines are 15 years younger.
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wiralutoons, civics < ehh jangan. still around yo..... most of the really nice ones are parked and hidden away.
most of these fellas own more than 1 car, usually an other car to drive daily. #petrolmahal

i know quite a number of owners who have kept their old cars many years after swapping them.
Admittedly, the guys who do this are those who have really pampered their cars spent tons of money on them (some who i know twice the car's value) and just dont wana sell them (or have tried and cannot sell them for the price they want biggrin.gif)... pure dedication is required....
those who were not really dedicated to their cars or do a half past six cheap job? Yeah these guys usually end up selling their cars as half done up projects.
*ts this is why im warning you 1st.... 1) you will not get back whatever you put into the car 2) if you intend to keep it long term, get it done right the 1st time!!!

far as quality mechanics... you have to carilah.... far as vtek mechanics go... there are plenty! evo mechanics... also plenty!!
long as you are willing to spend the $ mechanics are not really an issue. Problem is ppl buy these cars cheap, then dont want to spend much on maintaining them. Their ideas are.. spend 20k on a car... why should they spend another 20k refurbishing them... its another 20k they will never see again!
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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 14 2017, 03:36 PM)
This is the 4th page. I think it is time to employ the "if you find the post offending, don't reply to it" policy and move along.
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This thread is officially dead , there will be no more replies
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post Feb 14 2017, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 14 2017, 03:40 PM)
wiralutoons, civics < ehh jangan. still around yo..... most of the really nice ones are parked and hidden away.
most of these fellas own more than 1 car, usually an other car to drive daily. #petrolmahal

i know quite a number of owners who have kept their old cars many years after swapping them.
Admittedly, the guys who do this are those who have really pampered their cars spent tons of money on them (some who i know twice the car's value) and just dont wana sell them (or have tried and cannot sell them for the price they want  biggrin.gif)... pure dedication is required....
those who were not really dedicated to their cars or do a half past six cheap job? Yeah these guys usually end up selling their cars as half done up projects.
*ts this is why im warning you 1st.... 1) you will not get back whatever you put into the car 2) if you intend to keep it long term, get it done right the 1st time!!!

far as quality mechanics... you have to carilah.... far as vtek mechanics go... there are plenty! evo mechanics... also plenty!!
long as you are willing to spend the $ mechanics are not really an issue. Problem is ppl buy these cars cheap, then dont want to spend much on maintaining them. Their ideas are.. spend 20k on a car... why should they spend another 20k refurbishing them... its another 20k they will never see again!
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Many i am sure have become too impractical to drive, too unreliable to so any sort of long distance , too uncomfortable and no more resale because that hobby is effectively sunset . Keep until one day sell for loss because need money

That is the most likely end.
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 04:52 PM)
Many i am sure have become too impractical to drive, too unreliable to so any sort of long distance , too uncomfortable and no more resale because that hobby is effectively sunset . Keep until one day sell for loss because need money

That is the most likely end.
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Wow you really die-hard fully stock fan
What car do you daily anyways?
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:16 PM

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I agree on certain points from rcracer because myself is also restoring A31 now. Sometimes manyak pening waiting for parts only used available. Old car is all about time and money. Another thing TS needs to know is old car cannot get 1st party insurance anymore. In case of accident, your insurance only cover people's car. Imagine your insurance is not enough to cover, you will force to pay cash. So be extra vigilant if its your daily ride.
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 05:15 PM)
Wow you really die-hard fully stock fan
What car do you daily anyways?
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(taufufa @ Feb 14 2017, 05:16 PM)
I agree on certain points from rcracer because myself is also restoring A31 now. Sometimes manyak pening waiting for parts only used available. Old car is all about time and money. Another thing TS needs to know is old car cannot get 1st party insurance anymore. In case of accident, your insurance only cover people's car. Imagine your insurance is not enough to cover, you will force to pay cash. So be extra vigilant if its your daily ride.
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That's an interesting point, about the insurance. Thanks for the info!

How's your A31? Any tips?
Feel like starting another thread about restoring ancient cars 🤔
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Feb 14 2017, 03:16 PM)
The route you've taken isn't conventional, but I sense that its a risk that may turn out fulfilling later, depending on your motivations. Personally I wish I can restore an old car as a project too. Not many can understand the passion and drives this. They think it's 'not logical'.

Put it this way, what if TS bought a 'proper' car and later regretted the choice he made but couldn't turn back time cause he has lost more to depreciation and yet no where close to what he initially wanted, which is a project car. Then the logic would've been to buy a cheap car at the first place.

It all depends on point of view and some people here are just more used to the mainstream view and they nickpick their friend's failed projects as a deterrent factor that works to their views. Not that anything is wrong with that, but allow la for differing views.

Anyhow, the 323 is a beautiful car, I wish you all the best in your project and do keep us updated. Obviously you would already know that the journey is full of lows amongst the highs but if you are looking to enjoy the journey itself, I think you'll do just great thumbup.gif
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Thanks! Almost done, quite new to lowyat hope this doesn't 404 (does it?). Few more months I revisit again and post pics of the finished product 😬

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post Feb 14 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 05:18 PM)
1997 proton wira 1.5 gl auto, carburetor , 72 full tank travel 200km only
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Not bad, done anything to the car?
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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 05:39 PM)
That's an interesting point, about the insurance. Thanks for the info!

How's your A31? Any tips?
Feel like starting another thread about restoring ancient cars 🤔
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that might be nais...theres a thread in zth but its talking about old cars not really about restoring em....
anyway ur car belum lagi ancient.....

insurance, actually far as 90's cars go (older than 1990 am not sure) can still get 1st party/comprehensive but its usually only offered to cars whose value is still pretty high. And the premiums are sometimes stupendously high....
try axa..... (i myself am under kurnia, early 90's) i only curse the premiums + loadings.... ranting.gif
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 14 2017, 05:54 PM)
that might be nais...theres a thread in zth but its talking about old cars not really about restoring em....
anyway ur car belum lagi ancient.....

insurance, actually far as 90's cars go (older than 1990 am not sure) can still get 1st party/comprehensive but its usually only offered to cars whose value is still pretty high. And the premiums are sometimes stupendously high....
try axa..... (i myself am under kurnia, early 90's) i only curse the premiums + loadings.... ranting.gif
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Yeah I can't afford premium last time anyways, but not like anyone wants to insure a 27 year old car lah

Jimat lo, partition some cash into another account treat it like my own personal insurance lmao

Hmm or maybe an old car restoration club, now that would be fun 😄
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 05:18 PM)
1997 proton wira 1.5 gl auto, carburetor , 72 full tank travel 200km only
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One of my car is a Wira 1997 , carb too , but manual version

rm50 can drive me 350km inclusive of Expressway & not so jam town driving.

if your gearbox kong, worth converting to manual if you intend to keep this car cause Wira parts is cheap & aplenty

For TS, keep your passion going cause I also bought a used E46 & also have in mind to transplant a bigger capacity engine if the current engine sucks , I actually have a few options , either a halfcut BMW or 2Jz , endorsing will be done via the mech cause they will provide all in 1 service........& I just need ready the Cash devil.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 14 2017, 06:01 PM)
One of my car is a Wira 1997 , carb too , but manual version

rm50 can drive me 350km inclusive of Expressway & not so jam town driving.

if your gearbox kong, worth converting to manual if you intend to keep this car cause Wira parts is cheap & aplenty

For TS, keep your passion going cause I also bought a used E46 & also have in mind to transplant a bigger capacity engine if the current engine sucks , I actually have a few options , either a halfcut BMW or 2Jz , endorsing will be done via the mech cause they will provide all in 1 service........& I just need ready the Cash  devil.gif
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Wapiang 3.0, k la below 2.0 is all I'm after... I just wanna go faster nia.
Then again half-cut BM engine sounds interesting. What do you recommend?
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 14 2017, 06:01 PM)
One of my car is a Wira 1997 , carb too , but manual version

rm50 can drive me 350km inclusive of Expressway & not so jam town driving.

if your gearbox kong, worth converting to manual if you intend to keep this car cause Wira parts is cheap & aplenty

For TS, keep your passion going cause I also bought a used E46 & also have in mind to transplant a bigger capacity engine if the current engine sucks , I actually have a few options , either a halfcut BMW or 2Jz , endorsing will be done via the mech cause they will provide all in 1 service........& I just need ready the Cash  devil.gif
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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 06:10 PM)
Wapiang 3.0, k la below 2.0 is all I'm after... I just wanna go faster nia.
Then again half-cut BM engine sounds interesting. What do you recommend?
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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 06:10 PM)
Wapiang 3.0, k la below 2.0 is all I'm after... I just wanna go faster nia.
Then again half-cut BM engine sounds interesting. What do you recommend?
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ahha that was suggestions for himself.... for you, that is a whole can of worms you dont wana try open...

suggest you just keep the current engine for now and do more homework dulu......

also suggest you consider something which is a direct swap, i dont think you are ready for a complicated engine swap. cheaper and less of a headache
remember whole wiring loom must go together.. meter cluster has to fit too.... on the plus side old cars less electrical shenanigans to deal with (not even thinking about clearances, mountings, matching stuff up, shafts)

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