9.3k obviously not very cheap.just done replacing all belts and few gaskets/seals.damage 1k.sunroof leaks rm1.6k(new sunroof installed).

Coming next:
paint job will be close to rm3k.
undercarriage parts-lower arm,upper arm,bushings etc2 1k++.
interior seats/aircond vents etc2 RM2k++

its very simple why ppl swap in engines into beemers, mercs and some toyotas....
1)direct/easy swap ready mounts
2)and the original engines are either pathetic OR difficult/exp to jaga
3)its been done and proven
4)space/practicality

What about Mitsubishi or older Nissan engines?
before you think about this... think practicality.... do you know how much it costs to make custom mounts assuming off the shelf items are not available? (which is why i have been harping about this to you all this while)
and to answer you about the costs of the engine itself...
-4g93t gen1 (gsr) <5k or so, much more if you can even find a good cond truely low milage unit
-4g93t gen2 (gsr) <stupidly these are 7k and up (usually much more)
-4g63t gen1 (gsr) (evo 3 and older) some ppl wana swap em, so u can get them for 5k, demands for the entire engines not that kuat since cannot legally shove into those protons... (also less ppl modifying such old engines)
-4g63t gen2 (gsr) (evo 4 and newer) evo 4 about 6k and up, evo 5 close to 10k, evo 7 and you are looking at 12-15k
-4b11T  < dont bother, assuming your car cost 4k, its more than 3x... probably closer to 5x
approximate figs from what i have seen, does include some extra bits you can sell off
*gen 1 and 2 refers to the older and newer ones where the timing belts are terbalik.... gen 2 are commonly referred to as engine terbalik here (gen 2 fits later protons, blm, satria neo, gen2, persona etc while gen 1 fits the older bunch, wira, satria, perdana, putra)

also remember u should replace wear and tear bits before plonking it in, custom mounts costs workmanship which is going to be somewhat mahal especially if its something uncommon... (some things have to be tried and tested before getting it right). add it all in and it will easily cost you 2-3x the cost of just plonking in a simple p&p swap. How much power are you looking to push anyway? if its not alot, dont even bother with these difficult swaps. Only reason you should even consider running off the p&p path is if you are looking for lots of power, cannot afford to maintain your old engine or just want one for the sake of it (if its the 3rd, prepare butloads of cash)

*also very very sure an evo engine will tear your chassis up, that chassis wasn't really built to have that kind of power, an evo 1's torque alone bent my friend's saga back in the day... just took it 1 year (then again back then he ran solid mounts, might have been a factor)

older nissan engines, personally would not recommend, the parts are more expensive (not that you cannot maintain them, there are specialists here, but more exp than the equivalent mitsu)
fyi, actually prices for those cars are abit nuts depending on how much mods have gone into them and their conditions... u can sometimes find them for those figures BUT that you should understand is, its a very old engine that has usually been put through its paces by their owners. not sure if you realize but there are many evo/6a12tt perdanas, gsr protons obtainable for under 10k if you know where to look. With the economy as it is now, tts a buyers market now and most are owners who wana 'lepas tangan' after playing with them. (unfortunately also means usually there's quite abit of wear and tear)

ehh not to ruffle anyone's feathers ya zahidee!!

Great insight

If I wanna transplant a engine into my 1997 Wira carb engine chasis, which engine should I go for ?

I still want to maintain the Manual Tranny.

eh jangan...  leave stock je... put the money into the beemer.... wira use to go market....

 

Thanks for the advice

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What you suggest for thr beemer ?

1) M54B25

2) 1Jz

3) 2Jz

Pls take into consideration the maintenance cost & ease of parts availability as the main points......... cause in the end if I were to sell off this project , my investment could have no value to the buyer too if he is not so hardcore as we do

lsm1991, you are like the sifu here already might as well ask you.

The 1.8 B8 turbo was recommended by another friend of mine, thing is after searching online I found out that it's for 4WD. Is it possible for a 4WD engine to work with a n FF? I'm thinking of looking for a nice half cut with everything inside, at least the gearbox/clutch pad/radiator/wiring all is compatible.
Haven't went hunting for it yet, probably won't until year end (another big bonus coming in)

As far as fitting a 4wd gearbox into a 2wd car, not an issue, i mean look at those evo converted protons, its just a matter of fabricating a blanking plate.

before committing to the project (from the looks of it, pretty sure u are already decided) make sure the B8 would mount up properly and legally and how much work is needed.
This is certainly not an impossible project, there are 323's in malaysia with the conversion, i am just not sure what kind of effort has to be put into building one of if one needs to grease any hands doing so. If you can find other owners who have done this, that would be the absolute best. Its these guys who have converted these cars who would know best.

*edit... looked at some stuff and actually, it looks very straight forward. car was readily available with a bp (basically b8) so the bpt should just bolt in. (really not difficult if yours is already running the 1.8 bp)

Mine's 1.6, but I suppose should be the same...
hmm I guess I got my answer. A B8 Turbo is definitely the most rational choice.

Thanks everyone! 😄

The most direct swap for this would be the 1.6 B6 engine from the Mazda Familia or Mazda Lantis. This would be followed up with the more rare 1.8 BP engine from the same family of cars. The KF-ZE is a silky smooth engine but proving harder to get but this are an amazing set of engines for the mazda of the generation.

Dont need to fall into a worry on what forummers says. contrary to believe, its actually relatively cheap to maintain an astina. Engine parts are easily available. you may often only face issues sorting out the exterior parts like body panels or the rubber trims

If you really have the budget you can look into the B8T or BPT engines thou this are quite pricey and extremely hard to get since there is so much demand for this engine from the east cost owners.

Do look up the Lantis Club Malaysia group on FB or NFR Garage. This are the most popular hang out spot for most Mazda owners other than the Killerbees group.

Proud ex owner of a BG Familia , and Astina as well and a happy current owner of  TX3 and 2.0 Lantis V6

Actually I'm not even 100% sure, are Mazda engines even worth swapping? I've never heard anyone puroposely going for a Mazda engine for swapping, it's always the common ones like Toyota Honda or BMW. Those are totally out of my budget.
What about Mitsubishi or older Nissan engines? Would they be cheaper? Not going for 4b11T kinda range that one sure enough to by my car 3 times

As far as fitting a 4wd gearbox into a 2wd car, not an issue, i mean look at those evo converted protons, its just a matter of fabricating a blanking plate.

before committing to the project (from the looks of it, pretty sure u are already decided) make sure the B8 would mount up properly and legally and how much work is needed.
This is certainly not an impossible project, there are 323's in malaysia with the conversion, i am just not sure what kind of effort has to be put into building one of if one needs to grease any hands doing so. If you can find other owners who have done this, that would be the absolute best. Its these guys who have converted these cars who would know best.

*edit... looked at some stuff and actually, it looks very straight forward. car was readily available with a bp (basically b8) so the bpt should just bolt in. (really not difficult if yours is already running the 1.8 bp)

The most direct swap for this would be the 1.6 B6 engine from the Mazda Familia or Mazda Lantis. This would be followed up with the more rare 1.8 BP engine from the same family of cars. The KF-ZE is a silky smooth engine but proving harder to get but this are an amazing set of engines for the mazda of the generation.

Dont need to fall into a worry on what forummers says. contrary to believe, its actually relatively cheap to maintain an astina. Engine parts are easily available. you may often only face issues sorting out the exterior parts like body panels or the rubber trims

If you really have the budget you can look into the B8T or BPT engines thou this are quite pricey and extremely hard to get since there is so much demand for this engine from the east cost owners.

Do look up the Lantis Club Malaysia group on FB or NFR Garage. This are the most popular hang out spot for most Mazda owners other than the Killerbees group.

Proud ex owner of a BG Familia , and Astina as well and a happy current owner of  TX3 and 2.0 Lantis V6

So I bought a 1991 1.6 Mazda Astina 323F (the one with pop-up headlights) and I'm thinking of doing a swap maybe one year down the road after getting all the vital stuff sorted out.

I'm looking at the B6T, but I have a few concerns.

1. Would it fit?
2. Is it carbureted? If not, will the wiring for injection cost a bomb?
3. Will JPJ decline the endorsement because of a stock turbo charged engine?
4. Is it even worth it?

Also, open topic for the Astina in general. Love the look and overall design of the car!

The most direct swap for this would be the 1.6 B6 engine from the Mazda Familia or Mazda Lantis. This would be followed up with the more rare 1.8 BP engine from the same family of cars. The KF-ZE is a silky smooth engine but proving harder to get but this are an amazing set of engines for the mazda of the generation.

Dont need to fall into a worry on what forummers says. contrary to believe, its actually relatively cheap to maintain an astina. Engine parts are easily available. you may often only face issues sorting out the exterior parts like body panels or the rubber trims

If you really have the budget you can look into the B8T or BPT engines thou this are quite pricey and extremely hard to get since there is so much demand for this engine from the east cost owners.

Do look up the Lantis Club Malaysia group on FB or NFR Garage. This are the most popular hang out spot for most Mazda owners other than the Killerbees group.

Proud ex owner of a BG Familia , and Astina as well and a happy current owner of  TX3 and 2.0 Lantis V6

I own a 1991 mazda astina. Plz recommend your mechanic. Mine keeps asking me to junk or sell it. Thanks!

on Waze type " Joseph Lantis" ( Jalan TS6/2, Taman Perindustrian Subang, USJ1

https://www.facebook.com/jzaniaauto/
https://www.facebook.com/NFRAutoGarage/

both of this are in the same shop.. 1 brings in the parts from Japan and the other one is the mechanic