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 Mazda 323 Engine Swap, Looking to swap my engine

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post Feb 14 2017, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Feb 14 2017, 10:19 AM)
someone like to baked the cake themself and someone like to buy cake outside ..

both not get cheated..
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:25 AM

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Old Japanese cars always reliable. Myself driving a 1990 Mitsubishi Galant Super Saloon converted to VR4. Only problem is ECU wiring. Every now and then, engine will fire up as 2 cylinders. A little knock on the dashboard and all done.

Try that with latest cars. Too many computers and electronics.
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 14 2017, 10:23 AM)
oh god older than my car..... hi5 we should create an old car club!!
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The "Financially Unwise Car Owners That Are Frowned Upon By The General Public Because The Car Is Fking Old"
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 14 2017, 10:25 AM)
Old Japanese cars always reliable. Myself driving a 1990 Mitsubishi Galant Super Saloon converted to VR4. Only problem is ECU wiring. Every now and then, engine will fire up as 2 cylinders. A little knock on the dashboard and all done.

Try that with latest cars. Too many computers and electronics.
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Yeah that's my main concern... The car came carbureted stock? If convert to ECU could be quite troublesome I think
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 10:28 AM)
Yeah that's my main concern... The car came carbureted stock? If convert to ECU could be quite troublesome I think
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Not really. If wiring from similar model, it is a direct swap.

IMO, carbie cars easier to maintain. If cannot start, either no petrol or weak battery.
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:32 AM

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BPT Mazda? better choice but Damn hard to find..

Owned Ford TX3 Coupe BD back in 90's .. with B6 DOHC... that car damn fast..

The B6 engine use mechanical injection (if not mistaken).. you can set the Air/Fuel ratio by a turn of a screw in the intake hose..

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post Feb 14 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Feb 14 2017, 10:32 AM)
BPT Mazda? better choice but Damn hard to find..

Owned Ford TX3 Coupe BD back in 90's .. with B6 DOHC... that car damn fast..
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BPT like don't even exist in Malaysia. Mudah no result, Google also come out discussions nia.
According to wiki, I only see European variants and Japanese versions that has slightly more power. No mention is the US or elsewhere in Asia so... Either I strike lottery and ship from overseas, or the lord and savior give me one plus extra cash for labor and JPJ on my birthday

Other than BPT and B6T, other options either Toyota or Honda VTEC engines.
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 10:26 AM)
The "Financially Unwise Car Owners That Are Frowned Upon By The General Public Because The Car Is Fking Old"
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I like it!



if maintanance isnt an issue the v6 should be more interesting..... (tho mods might be very limited)
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:41 AM

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Crap I just recalled, need to touch gear box if change to let's say, the B6T?
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 14 2017, 10:39 AM)
I like it!
if maintanance isnt an issue the v6 should be more interesting..... (tho mods might be very limited)
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The K series engines has V6, but due to JPJ limitation and also realism, a bit overkill to get them. Not saying I wouldn't like a V6 or a V8 thumbup.gif
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 10:48 AM)
The K series engines has V6, but due to JPJ limitation and also realism, a bit overkill to get them. Not saying I wouldn't like a V6 or a V8  thumbup.gif
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what jpj limitation?? 1.6>2.0, no issues.... have seen one or 2 converted units around.... (one was a really nice red unit on sale last year, around 20-25k....)
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:53 AM

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Sporty looking and nice interior but choppy ride.
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post Feb 14 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Feb 14 2017, 10:51 AM)
what jpj limitation?? 1.6>2.0, no issues.... have seen one or 2 converted units around.... (one was a really nice red unit on sale last year, around 20-25k....)
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Oh ya 2.0 no problem, thanks for reminding! The KF model would be the best la but still.. Expensive, hard to find, and even harder to maintain.

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Feb 14 2017, 10:53 AM)
Sporty looking and nice interior but choppy ride.
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post Feb 14 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 10:57 AM)
Oh ya 2.0 no problem, thanks for reminding! The KF model would be the best la but still.. Expensive, hard to find, and even harder to maintain.
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i think prices would be on the low side BUT maintanance... yes high side....
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post Feb 14 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Feb 14 2017, 10:19 AM)
someone like to baked the cake themself and someone like to buy cake outside ..

both not get cheated..
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There are no mechanics that do proper job, claim they can , but have no idea what to do.

In the end , engine seldom runs properly , full of warning lights, overheating , leaking oil ,

All they do is trial and error, change this maybe change that

QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 10:21 AM)
Cheated as in buying secondhand car and tuning/modding/restoring?
Maybe just personal perspective but here is my very very rough plan:
Car (4k) + Important repairs (8k) + Aesthetics (in and outside, around 3-4k) [also sponsored by lou dao]

As opposed to the Preve I wanted, the moment I buy the car, 10k off market value.

Long run... If can take care I believe secondhand car much more eco, value already kosongĀ  biggrin.gif
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Again nobody will do a proper job, just hacks that are wasting your time and see that big water fish arrive with daddy support can chop maximum .

If father willing to fork out close to 15k , you can buy hot hatches already . Fiesta st,

Seriously try out the new generation vehicles, it's a buyer's market now , if you take 2016 model, discounts of 10,000 or more is not unheard of

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post Feb 14 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 11:10 AM)
There are no mechanics that do proper job, claim they can , but have no idea what to do.

In the end , engine seldom runs properly , full of warning lights, overheating , leaking oil ,

All they do is trial and error, change this maybe change that
Again nobody will do a proper job, just hacks that are wasting your time and see that big water fish arrive with daddy support can chop maximum .

If father willing to fork out close to 15k , you can buy hot hatches already . Fiesta st,

Seriously try out the new generation vehicles, it's a buyer's market now , if you take 2016 model, discounts of 10,000 or more is not unheard of
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so you mean that the new car have non of the problem you mention above ?
even you may say is under warranty
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post Feb 14 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 14 2017, 11:10 AM)
There are no mechanics that do proper job, claim they can , but have no idea what to do.

In the end , engine seldom runs properly , full of warning lights, overheating , leaking oil ,

All they do is trial and error, change this maybe change that
Again nobody will do a proper job, just hacks that are wasting your time and see that big water fish arrive with daddy support can chop maximum .

If father willing to fork out close to 15k , you can buy hot hatches already . Fiesta st,

Seriously try out the new generation vehicles, it's a buyer's market now , if you take 2016 model, discounts of 10,000 or more is not unheard of
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Sir again you're missing the point here... I already have the car, this thread adheres to the topic I've initially set out on, not "Just bought Astina 323, was it a good idea?"
Maybe the mechanic you encounter sucks, I also see many before (mum's sis') and they just buat and in the end more problems, end up have to overhaul.
The mechanic I visit every time also say my car troublesome, but good thing is he enjoys fixing it because he always get common cars. The price he charge me also considered super reasonable, I won't say super cheap lah.
All in all... I understand why you don't agree with my choice, like I said before a lot of people also say money hole lah or bad choice what not.
Well let's just put it this way: I saved up for a car to get around, but I also wanted something that I actually like rather than full on 'reliable', no fun cussing at a 15 year old Iswara anyways rclxub.gif

We have totally different views, I'm open to warnings or advice but my mind is already set on restoring the car. Expensive hobby as compared to collecting vape mods (?) or golf, but in essence it is still a hobby to me.
Some like sports, some like collecting, and some like to spend a fortune to restore old cars biggrin.gif
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post Feb 14 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Feb 14 2017, 11:20 AM)
so you mean that the new car have non of the problem you mention above ?
even you may say is under warranty
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Absolutely none, nothing can beat a brand new engine vs a completely clapped out, hacked up, mismatched engine with unknown history being jammed into an even older vehicle

Everything is just so so tired , worn , it's not worth the money , time and effort.
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post Feb 14 2017, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Politricks @ Feb 14 2017, 11:21 AM)
Sir again you're missing the point here... I already have the car, this thread adheres to the topic I've initially set out on, not "Just bought Astina 323, was it a good idea?"
Maybe the mechanic you encounter sucks, I also see many before (mum's sis') and they just buat and in the end more problems, end up have to overhaul.
The mechanic I visit every time also say my car troublesome, but good thing is he enjoys fixing it because he always get common cars. The price he charge me also considered super reasonable, I won't say super cheap lah.
All in all... I understand why you don't agree with my choice, like I said before a lot of people also say money hole lah or bad choice what not.
Well let's just put it this way: I saved up for a car to get around, but I also wanted something that I actually like rather than full on 'reliable', no fun cussing at a 15 year old Iswara anyways  rclxub.gif

We have totally different views, I'm open to warnings or advice but my mind is already set on restoring the car. Expensive hobby as compared to collecting vape mods (?) or golf, but in essence it is still a hobby to me.
Some like sports, some like collecting, and some like to spend a fortune to restore old cars  biggrin.gif
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If it was a collector car no issue, worth to spend some money , but it's just a run of the mill car, keep it running but not worth spending anymore money on it

And get a new car

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