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I am at 5%+FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Feb 15 2017, 01:43 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM) Of course not. Thought about it then cancel as IMO, it's not worth it. I am more of autopilot person. Doesn't want to moniter so much. QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM) Why 12%? You do realise the benefits that you feel available in SG and not MY such as better funds would mean that in a bull run you would earn more with funds in SG instead of MY; and if you believe SGD:MYR would go up to 3.5 in near future would mean it's better to translate now than later right? Reasons:Just pointing out the obvious (i) well to get ammo for my next SG trip in march (ii) 12% profit is better than no profit right? Cut loss while it's still climbing QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM) I believed 10% is doable. (United asian HY bond fund a perfect eg) 15% if you got nerve of steels.QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 02:48 PM) Okay. Another noob question. What about PRS fund? It's essentially non redeemable till retirement age. So should I include it as part of my portfolio in excel or just forget about it? Any significance? QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 02:52 PM) personally? no I don't consider it as part of my portfolio. Agreed with Avengelice. If they stop the tax relief, will not buy anymore.I'm only doing prs (will be in December 2017) to enjoy the tax relief. once they stop the tax relief and free money i won't bat an eye lid at it. I don't like the idea of locking money until I'm too old to enjoy it. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 15 2017, 02:55 PM |
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Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 15 2017, 03:08 PM) It's a AP bond fund which give 10% returns per year. Not as volatite as RHB ATRFQUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM) Guess instead of waiting SG platform for that fund, i will just transfer some from Esther bond to there Min starting amount is rm10k. You got the moo? You can check the target fund in SG platform This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 15 2017, 03:15 PM |
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Feb 15 2017, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:36 PM) Esther bond is not part of my portfolio, rather, my FD reserve, so roughly enough to meet the minimum requirement when transfer For SG part United asian HY bond only need sgd1k. Way lower than here. If convert also 3k SGD like that LA, not too big Cos in poems, I will need to minimum top up 500 SGD to it, whereas if I put in Malaysia, RM 1k (roughly SGD 300) minimum top up only, also save TT charges and self Forex conversion Save TT charges and self forex = go there and deposit money? |
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Feb 15 2017, 05:03 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 06:13 PM) curious with some of the investors here, let's say the market correction happens and you have anticipated it from the conversations in this thread. I think I can answer your question. People can just switch from equity > bond > cmf thus earning credits point. Remembr the ninja credit trick? Now is a good time to do it. That way your profit/whole fund is safe if correction happen assuming the person withdraw all out.So most logical conclusion is to start selling your funds am I right? so you keep the said funds in CMF or if you lucky you shift your entire fund allocation to another fund in the same fund house. the blood bath is then over. so you go back in the market which incurs more service charges or you have to start switching back again but you now have to switch all your funds even from the secondary fund. my point is why is everyone so worried about the correction? Wait for it to hit almost bottom, then use the credits earned to buy units at low price (principal + profit pumped back in) without incurring service charge (use the credit points) Hope you can understand what I am saying. It's like stocks. No different as UT is basically a basket of stocks. Of course one can sit there and don't do anything. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 15 2017, 06:23 PM |
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Feb 16 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 16 2017, 10:32 AM) But if u time the mrket wrong and no correction happens u will lose your investment by buying into higher price of the fund right? That's right.That's why there 3 school of thoughs: (i) leave it on auto pilot (ii) moniter the market like a hawk (iii) take profit every now and then (a profit is still a profit - remember that) For me? I am more of (i) but since I need bullets for SG, so hell yeah, just withdraw while there's still profit. |
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Feb 16 2017, 11:33 AM
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Feb 16 2017, 12:12 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Feb 16 2017, 02:20 PM) Please la, don't write like you are sharing anything when you are just repeating your own perception and opinions of things you read from discussions in forums. 1. I see how people react"School of thoughts"... walao eh, so well established and defined, so academic! 2. It's true. Some people let it on auto mode, some people here skim profit, some people here remove everything once hit certain amount. It's up to the person to choose which one he/she is much comfortable with. If you want proof I can provide proof who use method 1, 2, 3 This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 16 2017, 02:35 PM |
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Feb 16 2017, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Feb 16 2017, 03:21 PM) You can see your units before and after. If you have extra x amount of units, it means the dividend have been reinvested. Also if you don't know how much extra units you received, check the statement. FSM give you statement which state you received how many units. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 16 2017, 03:26 PM |
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Feb 16 2017, 07:47 PM
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Feb 16 2017, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 16 2017, 08:28 PM) Starting of the decline again? Which means Ponzi 1 will be affected.. Who asked you to do RSP? You are free to choose when to topup. QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 16 2017, 08:32 PM) Could be cause by this? http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...n-payment-fail/ This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 16 2017, 08:34 PM |
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Feb 17 2017, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Feb 17 2017, 10:39 AM) Thats why i get a medical card with almost zero death benefit. I can count on insurance company to share my medical bills, but unable count on them to manage my retirement Care to share which card is that and where did you apply?Do you pay first then claim back later/don't need to pay. |
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Feb 17 2017, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 01:37 PM) previously with Prudential 350 and coverage was only 50k to 100k Pay rm250 for how long? How many years?now with fsm under MCIS, it's 250 and coverage is now 1.5 million. the large difference in coverage because my damn Prudential agent signed me up to for 5 different riders and along with an LP. I told fsm I am going to plan for my retirement and my insurance will be for medical please don't get me all the bs riders I don't need. |
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Feb 17 2017, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:59 PM) theoretically can we just invest our entire diversified portfolio via bond funds? I mean does it beat other investment vehicles like epf Of course. Perfect example rhb islamic bond fund/affin hwang select bond. If you are feeling adventurous, try united asian hy bond |
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Feb 17 2017, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Feb 17 2017, 09:19 PM) dont seem to be able to search for united asian high yield bond from fsm, is it listed under other platform? It's a wholesale fund. Here you gohttps://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...nd-MYR-MYUOBAHY - MYR https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...d-SGD-MYUOBAHYS - SGD https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...d-USD-MYUOBAHYU - USD |
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Feb 18 2017, 11:05 AM
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Let's hope CMF profit can cover the bond fees.
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Feb 18 2017, 11:22 AM
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