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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Ramjade
post Feb 15 2017, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 15 2017, 01:37 PM)
The big question is where are you now ? How far from 12% ?  blink.gif
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I am at 5%+
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post Feb 15 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
Thanks. Do you invest in this fund? Wondering they invest into where?
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Of course not. Thought about it then cancel as IMO, it's not worth it. I am more of autopilot person. Doesn't want to moniter so much.

QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
Why 12%? You do realise the benefits that you feel available in SG and not MY such as better funds would mean that in a bull run you would earn more with funds in SG instead of MY; and if you believe SGD:MYR would go up to 3.5 in near future would mean it's better to translate now than later right?

Just pointing out the obvious  cool2.gif
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Reasons:
(i) well to get ammo for my next SG trip in march
(ii) 12% profit is better than no profit right? Cut loss while it's still climbing biggrin.gif


QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM)
yes you are...but is he?
10~15% pa wor...isn't that a bit too optimistic?
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I believed 10% is doable. (United asian HY bond fund a perfect eg) 15% if you got nerve of steels.

QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 02:48 PM)
Okay. Another noob question. What about PRS fund? It's essentially non redeemable till retirement age. So should I include it as part of my portfolio in excel or just forget about it? Any significance?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 02:52 PM)
personally? no I don't consider it as part of my portfolio.

I'm only doing prs (will be in December 2017) to enjoy the tax relief. once they stop the tax relief and free money i won't bat an eye lid at it. I don't like the idea of locking money until I'm too old to enjoy it.
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Agreed with Avengelice. If they stop the tax relief, will not buy anymore.

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post Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 15 2017, 03:08 PM)
What so special about this United Asian HY bond fund ? Around 20% return for previous year ?
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It's a AP bond fund which give 10% returns per year. Not as volatite as RHB ATRF

QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM)
Guess instead of waiting SG platform for that fund, i will just transfer some from Esther bond to there tongue.gif

You can check the target fund in SG platform smile.gif
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Min starting amount is rm10k. You got the moo? hmm.gif?

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:36 PM)
Esther bond is not part of my portfolio, rather, my FD reserve, so roughly enough to meet the minimum requirement when transfer tongue.gif

If convert also 3k SGD like that LA, not too big

Cos in poems, I will need to minimum top up 500 SGD to it, whereas if I put in Malaysia, RM 1k (roughly SGD 300) minimum top up only, also save TT charges and self Forex conversion laugh.gif
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For SG part United asian HY bond only need sgd1k. Way lower than here. biggrin.gif

Save TT charges and self forex = go there and deposit money?
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post Feb 15 2017, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Feb 15 2017, 04:59 PM)
I see a lot more in her apart from the returns sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Amasia returns pales in comparison to Manulife AP REITS drool.gif drool.gif
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post Feb 15 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 06:13 PM)
curious with some of the investors here, let's say the market correction happens and you have anticipated it from the conversations in this thread.

So most logical conclusion is to start selling your funds am I right? so you keep the said funds in CMF or if you lucky you shift your entire fund allocation to another fund in the same fund house.

the blood bath is then over. so you go back in the market which incurs more service charges or you have to start switching back again but you now have to switch all your funds even from the secondary fund.

my point is why is everyone so worried about the correction?
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I think I can answer your question. People can just switch from equity > bond > cmf thus earning credits point. Remembr the ninja credit trick? Now is a good time to do it. That way your profit/whole fund is safe if correction happen assuming the person withdraw all out.

Wait for it to hit almost bottom, then use the credits earned to buy units at low price (principal + profit pumped back in) without incurring service charge (use the credit points) rclxms.gif You are also effectively getting more units/price. That way, you will have more profit than let the fund sit there in the red when it return to normal.

Hope you can understand what I am saying. It's like stocks. No different as UT is basically a basket of stocks.

Of course one can sit there and don't do anything.

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post Feb 16 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 16 2017, 10:32 AM)
But if u time the mrket wrong and no correction happens u will lose your investment by buying into higher price of the fund right?
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That's right.

That's why there 3 school of thoughs:
(i) leave it on auto pilot
(ii) moniter the market like a hawk
(iii) take profit every now and then (a profit is still a profit - remember that)


For me? I am more of (i) but since I need bullets for SG, so hell yeah, just withdraw while there's still profit.
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post Feb 16 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 16 2017, 11:29 AM)
Guys, newbie question - when you sell funds on FSM, is there any extra disposal charges or will you get the full bid/redemption price? I know when you buy, there is sales charge as high as 2%.
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No unless you buy bond fynd with exit fees of less than 1 year.
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post Feb 16 2017, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Feb 16 2017, 12:10 PM)
Talking bout expected roi, i kinda expected 10+ annually. Not because i am greedy, its because i am 35, and i got not much time anymore....
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10% pa is reasonable if it's a bull market.
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post Feb 16 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Feb 16 2017, 02:20 PM)
Please la, don't write like you are sharing anything when you are just repeating your own perception and opinions of things you read from discussions in forums.

"School of thoughts"... walao eh, so well established and defined, so academic!
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1. I see how people react
2. It's true. Some people let it on auto mode, some people here skim profit, some people here remove everything once hit certain amount.

It's up to the person to choose which one he/she is much comfortable with.

If you want proof I can provide proof who use method 1, 2, 3

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Feb 16 2017, 03:21 PM)
hi, just like to ask how to check if the dividend has been reinvested into my investment?
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You can see your units before and after. If you have extra x amount of units, it means the dividend have been reinvested. smile.gif
Also if you don't know how much extra units you received, check the statement. FSM give you statement which state you received how many units.

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post Feb 16 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 16 2017, 07:46 PM)
Suddenly no longer Unit Trust Tipu orang liao!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbsup.gif
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Wait la. If it crash then people cakap unit trust tipu orang mad.gif ranting.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 16 2017, 08:28 PM)
so today is down for both kgf and kapchai sweat.gif

just drop the next day after my RSP sweat.gif

talk about timing sweat.gif
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Starting of the decline again? hmm.gif
Which means Ponzi 1 will be affected.. doh.gif

Who asked you to do RSP? tongue.gif Manually topup la. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
You are free to choose when to topup.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 16 2017, 08:32 PM)
I take the drop as the market still has sufficient sanity.
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Could be cause by this?
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...n-payment-fail/

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post Feb 17 2017, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Feb 17 2017, 10:39 AM)
Thats why i get a medical card with almost zero death benefit. I can count on insurance company to share my medical bills, but unable count on them to manage my retirement
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Care to share which card is that and where did you apply?
Do you pay first then claim back later/don't need to pay.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 01:37 PM)
previously with Prudential 350 and coverage was only 50k to 100k

now with fsm under MCIS,  it's 250 and coverage is now 1.5 million.

the large difference in coverage because my damn Prudential agent signed me up to for 5 different riders and along with an LP. I told fsm I am going to plan for my retirement and my insurance will be for medical please don't get me all the bs riders I don't need.
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Pay rm250 for how long? How many years?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:59 PM)
theoretically can we just invest our entire diversified portfolio via bond funds? I mean does it beat other investment vehicles like epf
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Of course. Perfect example rhb islamic bond fund/affin hwang select bond.
If you are feeling adventurous, try united asian hy bond devil.gif
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Feb 17 2017, 09:19 PM)
dont seem to be able to search for united asian high yield bond from fsm, is it listed under other platform?
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It's a wholesale fund. Here you go
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...nd-MYR-MYUOBAHY - MYR
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...d-SGD-MYUOBAHYS - SGD
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...d-USD-MYUOBAHYU - USD

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post Feb 18 2017, 11:05 AM

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Let's hope CMF profit can cover the bond fees.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 18 2017, 11:19 AM)
Only for bond or equities also?
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Bond with platform fees.
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Feb 18 2017, 04:30 PM)
If i remembered correctly, in order to purchase absolute fund 2 you need to have asset worthing >3mil or annual gross income >300k right?
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No need. Just need min RM100k

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