QUOTE(smallydupe @ Jul 11 2018, 11:46 AM)
this is what they recommended .....https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...les-Charge-9919
what you think?
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Jul 11 2018, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Jul 11 2018, 11:46 AM) this is what they recommended .....https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...les-Charge-9919 what you think? |
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Jul 11 2018, 12:26 PM
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Jul 11 2018, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 11 2018, 08:58 AM) i really confuse with all the statement about DCA this few days. Topping uo just means buying more. It does not necessary means it is DCA which is a plan which has regular purchases scheduled in.too many comments and too many opinions. even if someone is practicing DCA in proven fund for more than 5 years (eg. Kenanga, CIMB Dali...), its not wrong to topup your investment when market is down. It sure will rise again surpassing the current NAV. Please correct me if i am wrong? Buying more units could also be due to market timing. QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 09:23 AM) DCA is simple. You topup when every month without regardless if market condition. Topping up lesser when the market is up (and inversly more when the market is down) could either be a modified DCA plan - such as VA plan, which is also a scheduled plan. If there is no schedule and ad hod, it is market timing or trading.The modified version which one can use is Topup lesser when market is up. Why do you want to topup more when market is expensive? Then use the amount you save to topup more when market is down. Market down is good time to topup more rather than when market going up. For me, I don't topup when market is going up and up. Again why should I topup? So that FOMO? No thank you. Opportunity is comes. When market start going down, that's when I start to look and see if topup is worth it. If just fall 1-2%, just let it go. Again I said I look. Not topup. I set myself a range when I will start topping g up. QUOTE(ViNC3 @ Jul 11 2018, 09:24 AM) No, I don't think it is spoken too much in this forum when people think it is fine to use DCA to mean whatever they think it means, as it is very confusing when everyone do that.From what I read so far, some posters here - if not most - are market timers or traders. Please don't get me wrong... there's nothing wrong being a market timer, and though I would advocate DCA to those just starting to invest in UT funds, it is not a must. Personally speaking, I don't bash market timers. They are very welcome to share their timing tips. Or if they are asking for timing tips, they don't have to be coy and beat around the bush saying their ports are currently in red and asking whether to do this or that. Which would inadvertenly result a reply of "Don't know what to do? Try doing it slow and steady using a DCA plan." =========== Lastly, Market Timing is very different from DCA. DCA is a regular purchse plan, and as in any plan, the purchase amount or purhase budget is predetermined. Market timing is ad hoc and a response to market sentiments, the purchase amount/budget to spend is not fixed, it can be anything from zero upwards (and also negative amount - as in selling). Continuous market timing does not mean it is sort of a DCA plan... it is market or perfomance chasing. This post has been edited by j.passing.by: Jul 11 2018, 03:22 PM |
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Jul 11 2018, 03:33 PM
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I think we shouldn't to be so hung out on what a certain word is define as. As long as each person understand it in their own way ok already. Even if their understanding doesn't 100% match your definition of the word. There is no need to argue it should be this n this... No point to it. At the end of the "discussion" u just win it for your own satisfaction.
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Jul 11 2018, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Yipiyaya @ Jul 11 2018, 10:55 AM) It's going to be rocky for the next few years . |
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Jul 11 2018, 04:57 PM
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Jul 11 2018, 05:10 PM
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Jul 11 2018, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 11 2018, 05:10 PM) Doesn't matter if is a long fought out war. My money is ever ready. Like I said no rush to buy.If you don't have money at this time then you will miss the boat. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 11 2018, 05:52 PM |
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Jul 11 2018, 06:18 PM
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Jul 11 2018, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 11 2018, 06:18 PM) you ah! never give chance one.... reading from his last few posts, my guess is of course not yet..... still waiting for them to fall until "desired" value. also many feel that the last few days, most of the funds had their NAVs increased...thus today's falls is till not yet "spill blood" thus many still practise control, tahan, patience......don't simply shoot...1 shot, 1 kill.......(sniper motto) This post has been edited by MUM: Jul 11 2018, 06:25 PM |
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Jul 11 2018, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 11 2018, 06:18 PM) Awaiting to pump my PRS. For regular UT I can pump anytime I want as I always have access to zero percent service charge. So no hurry. For regular UT I would like it to fall a bit more for it to hit that sweet spot. QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 11 2018, 06:23 PM) you ah! Planning to. Not yet hit the target price for my fund yet.never give chance one.... reading from his last few posts, my guess is of course not yet..... still waiting for them to fall until "desired" value. also many feel that the last few days, most of the funds had their NAVs increased...thus today's falls is till not yet "spill blood" thus many still practise control, tahan, patience......don't simply shoot...1 shot, 1 kill.......(sniper motto) This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 11 2018, 06:40 PM |
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Jul 11 2018, 06:59 PM
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how is the return of the unit trust compared to FD especially the market is so bad now.
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Jul 11 2018, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Jul 11 2018, 06:59 PM) depending on which fund(s) ......see this and make your own conclusion.... https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...formed=topFunds |
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Jul 11 2018, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 11 2018, 06:23 PM) you ah! LOL. I ask genuinely leh…. Since market on generalise down months 6 already. never give chance one.... reading from his last few posts, my guess is of course not yet..... still waiting for them to fall until "desired" value. also many feel that the last few days, most of the funds had their NAVs increased...thus today's falls is till not yet "spill blood" thus many still practise control, tahan, patience......don't simply shoot...1 shot, 1 kill.......(sniper motto) But la. I predict major correct incoming august la. And lately busy doing damage control for the previous bleed by avoid eq enter fi. Wait the trump got what card. Thn cont my port. As the quote goes by stop the bleed when u bleed and not letting it bleed and make it more bleed. *bleedception* QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 06:38 PM) Awaiting to pump my PRS. For regular UT I can pump anytime I want as I always have access to zero percent service charge. So no hurry. For regular UT I would like it to fall a bit more for it to hit that sweet spot. aiya forgot u dump MY and FSM already. Planning to. Not yet hit the target price for my fund yet. |
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Jul 12 2018, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 06:38 PM) Awaiting to pump my PRS. For regular UT I can pump anytime I want as I always have access to zero percent service charge. So no hurry. For regular UT I would like it to fall a bit more for it to hit that sweet spot. Ramjade just curious. Planning to. Not yet hit the target price for my fund yet. Normally if u gain more, what do you do for those profit? example, after 6 years u gained 12%. those proft u just keep it in the same fund or u switch to low risk fund? or withdraw the cash to put in FD? |
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Jul 12 2018, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 06:38 PM) Awaiting to pump my PRS. For regular UT I can pump anytime I want as I always have access to zero percent service charge. So no hurry. For regular UT I would like it to fall a bit more for it to hit that sweet spot. Woah, how to attain 0% service charge at all time? even Platinum level only have 1% off Planning to. Not yet hit the target price for my fund yet. |
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Jul 12 2018, 11:16 AM
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Jul 12 2018, 11:37 AM
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Is there a discussion for FSM Singapore here ?
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Jul 12 2018, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Jul 12 2018, 11:37 AM) NOPE...FSM Singapore are not usually or advised to be discussed here, for it has a dedicated thread in lowyat forum... check this out.. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3757612/+760 |
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 12 2018, 12:47 PM) NOPE... TqvmFSM Singapore are not usually or advised to be discussed here, for it has a dedicated thread in lowyat forum... check this out.. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3757612/+760 |
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