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i1899
post Feb 3 2018, 01:36 AM

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2018 January seems was a good start.

MoM ROI 2.14%; 25 Month IRR = 13.77%.

This month, I made 2 movement:
1. Replaced TA Global Tech. on 08/01 by United Global Quality Equity Fund.
2. Switched all Manulife India on 08/01 to CIMB Greater China.




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post Feb 5 2018, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Feb 4 2018, 09:48 PM)
I am considering the same move since both my TA GTF and India performance were lackluster recently. However, UGQEG goal is to invest in global without any specific direction. May I know what makes you choose this over TAGTF? (Apart from its recent strong performance of course as can be seen from its recent high yield)

As for my india exposure, this is one of my best performers last year so I'm a bit reluctant to switch. However, recently its performance has been dropping and no news on India at all from FSM recently which makes me worry a bit. Just wondering if you have any other specific reason of ditching India market so fast?

Thanks for your reply!  rclxms.gif
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During my last portfolio health check, my CIS advised me to cut down the supplementary funds, as it exceed 20% (G.China + Tech + India), so i made such move.
My situation might be different with yours, below were my considerations in making such move, that might not useful in your situation.

1. TA global tech to United Global Quality (MYR hedged) because:
- I need a Global Equity Fund in my portfolio, as one of my CORE FUNDS, which can invest freely onto anywhere, any sector, any capital size of company. So that, i don't have to hold too much number of funds just for diversification purpose (esp country specific/ sector specific fund). United Global Quality is the ONLY ONE fund that fits above requirement because it is "not Global islamic" fund, "not Global Titans/ Leaders/ small cap/ growth/ value/ dividend" fund. Furthermore, it is Hedged to MYR, which can limit the currency risk. I believe that 2018 will be a bad year for USD.
- TA Global Tech is the second worst performer (in term of IRR) with 16.6% IRR, in my portfolio.
- For Tech stocks, PER of Nasdaq 100 is 26.342, but the fair PE is 18.0, it priced at 46% more than its fair value. So, i feel a bit worry to be concentrate on only tech sector.
- To cut down my supplementary funds, and move it as core funds.

2. India to Greater China because:
- volatility of india is too high for me. It can suddenly drops 4% in 1 day, then the other 2% the next day, wash out all the profit make in 2 months before, then repeat this cycle about 3 months later.
- It is the worst performer (in term of IRR) with 13.3% IRR, in my portfolio.
- Sensex Index PER is 23.85, fair PER is 18.0. That make India the most expensive market in Asia.
- To cut down my supplementary funds.
- My Asia Fund (50% of my portfolio) do cover India.
- For Greater China, HSML 100 PER is at 13.81, not exceed its Fair PE 14.





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post Feb 5 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Feb 5 2018, 02:02 PM)
I assumed it's from FSM.
Do you need to visit their office in order to get/request the portfolio health check? Or it's done thru phone/email?
what exactly is covered in this "portfolio health check"?
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I just wrote an email to investhelp.my@fundsupermart.com (not client.help) for my portfolio health check, provided them my investment's market value @ eUT/ASNB/ others and target FI/EQ ratio etc.

Every account of FSM has a dedicated CIS, who can access to our holding with FSM, so not need to provide them our holding at FSM.

I asked for advises to reduce the number of funds ( i was holding 9 funds at that time), but he provided 2 pages long of suggestions which will increase the number of funds if i follow bulat bulat.

Suggestion from my CIS includes:
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Asia Ex-Japan region
....You may have Asia Ex-Japan region Funds about 25-30% percent of your portfolio as we believe this market is still trading at a cheaper valuation hence higher upside potential in longer term.

supplementary Funds
Your portfolio overexposed to supplementary Funds and single country funds. You have the total of xxxx% percent of these categories such as Specific fund (TA Global Technology), Greater China and Single country funds ( India and Singapore). You may consider reducing funds in this area because anything less than or equal to 10% will be good for the supplementary portion of this type of funds caring very high risk and have higher market volatility.

Fixed Income funds,
you may remain Affin Hwang Select Income Fund (Asia Ex-Japan) while, switch the other 2 funds to Libra AsnitaBond Fund (Malaysia).

While reducing the percentage for the funds mentioned above you may also consider to diversify those funds to other region as below:
Emerging market region (Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets Fund) (about 10% of your portfolio)
The fund management team believes that the emerging stock markets are inefficient and provide strong potential for adding value through active fund management. The fund manager believes that these values can be extracted through both country and stock selection, and each country will have its respective investment approach given that the emerging economies are all at different stages of development.

Developed Market region (CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund) & Global (Eastspring Investments Global Leaders MY Fund) (about 25% of your portfolio)
We have always been emphasising the inclusion of global equity funds as one of the core holdings in an investor’s portfolio not only to achieve the purpose of portfolio diversification, but also to capture opportunities shall they arise in any part of the world

Malaysia fund (Kenanga Growth Fund) (about 15% of your portfolio)
Malaysia’s economy is gaining momentum as it grows at the fastest pace in more than two years. The global trade recovery has spurred exports, with Malaysia outperforming its peers in the region as earlier weakness in the currency helped to keep its manufacturing industry competitive.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you need any assistance.



i1899
post Feb 5 2018, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix24 @ Feb 5 2018, 01:38 PM)
wow manulife india drop almost 4.5%
any takers? brows.gif
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QUOTE(i1899 @ Feb 5 2018, 01:02 AM)

 
- volatility of india is too high for me. It can suddenly drops 4% in 1 day, then the other 2% the next day, wash out all the profit make in 2 months before, then repeat this cycle about 3 months later.

- Sensex Index PER  is 23.85, fair PER is 18.0. That make India the most expensive market in Asia.

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i1899
post Feb 5 2018, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Feb 5 2018, 07:20 PM)
Wow, all my funds in red today. So bloody Monday...
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what u saw today is the NAV for last Friday.
u will see more bloody NAV tomorrow. But, no worry, the drop @ HK today is only 1.09%.

Compare with India drops/ US drops on last Friday, it is just small case.





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post Feb 6 2018, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 6 2018, 02:06 PM)
anyone planning to do switching already?
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Yes, this morning, i just switched 10% of my FI to Asia Equity Fund using credit.

Luckily, i switch sold part of my Asia Fund to bond fund on 26/01. So, my FI portion is higher now.
i1899
post Feb 6 2018, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 6 2018, 05:17 PM)
Europe is down now...  sweat.gif
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this morning, switch < 10% of my fi to equity fund.
If tomorrow is as bad as today, or worse than today,
will switch the other 10% bond fund to equity fund as I have 6 digits credit to dispose, that I held for almost 1 year.

I m the only one in this thread who took action today?
i1899
post Feb 7 2018, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Feb 6 2018, 09:32 PM)
You are not the only one  wub.gif . i only have 5 digits, being switching 5% daily since yesterday  wub.gif
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thumbsup.gif then, i am not the only one.


QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 6 2018, 09:47 PM)
as of 5 Feb.....the worst drop is Manulife Reits at -3.5% but had reached my target allocation
next is EIGL at just -3.0%......this one, the allocation is still short, thus i can top up but have to drop more to have an impact on averaging out

planning to bet on India on the next few days, with money not in port...just betting, no impact to port
as of today, lost RM 488 on IDS...bet since 6 Dec....
reaching target lost amount....shifting to India....if india still continue to drops...but then IDS will also drops  sad.gif  shocking.gif  doh.gif
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REIT and India fund are not in my radar.
My bond fund are with Affin Hwang, and Eastspring, i can only switch to EQ in these fund house ... no much choice...


QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Feb 6 2018, 11:53 PM)
I only did rebalancing, as I've gone extra heavy into ponzi2 during the 0% promo recently. Now switching some % out into other fund.

What's your fi% after this switch? I sort of remember you're on around 40%. More importantly, what percentage is this portfolio to your overall investment? Maybe your other investment are fi type, so you can afford to go very agressive on your ut portfolio?
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Last week, i switched all my Affin Hwang Aiiman Asia Growth to Esther bond, to lock +5% profit, that i put a bet in early December.
Today, just switch back only... So, my FI-EQ ratio remains unchanged at 30-70%.

My plans for the coming days is : if market drop >4% like today (HSI drops 5% today leh), i will switch 10% of my FI to EQ fund. Switch back to bond fund if this bet have around 5% profit in these coming months.

10% of my FI is only 3% of my total UT portfolio (eUT + ASNB + FSM).
I can repeat it maximum 7 times until FI-EQ ratio at 10-90%, because 10% of my FI are with ASNB.

If i reach 10-90 FI/EQ ratio, that means the market drops at least 30%. sweat.gif Then, we are in bear market/ economic recession.

But, recent economic data (unemployment, inflation, PMI) are all good, companies earning still grows. We are not in economic recession loh. So, i put a a bet.

The fear come from the change of FED president to a hawkish one, and fear on steep interest rate hike by him.

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Don't follow me, our situation are not the same.
I have a good job, insurance and EPF to secure me. Nobody depends on me, no commitment. And, I have experience in 2008 fin crisis.



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post Feb 7 2018, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2018, 05:40 PM)
This is the time you keep your eyes peel open and get ready your cash.

This is the time where cash is king. If you have been using cash to relentless topup,  you are just able to see your portfolio turn red and can't do anything about it.
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 7 2018, 05:49 PM)
Sudah naik balik... don't think it'll hit your 20% threshold to buy in
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Actually, there is (at least) one fund in FSM drops more than 20% from its peak leh.
Some more, buying this fund not need to pay sales charges. no exit fee pun if buy at FSM.

these 2 criteria are what you are waiting for, right?

Then, it is the time to go in lo. Good luck to you. bye.gif


Inter-Pacific Asset Management - InterPac Dana Safi

52WK RANGE : 0.3917 - 0.6066

NAV (ON 02/06/2018) : 0.4608

0.4608/0.6066 = -24% drops


i1899
post Feb 7 2018, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2018, 07:39 PM)
Sorry. I don't do those funds. I believe in consistent winner rather than one time champion.
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just want to let u know that,
once a fund drops 20%,'it wont be a "consistent winner" anymore.

so, at the end, u still doing nothing, even it drop 50%.


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post Feb 8 2018, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Feb 8 2018, 04:47 AM)
Is this gonna work? Never tried the switch credit system before

I buy a fund at 0.8% (promo rate, usual rate 1.75%) then switch to a FI fund from the same UTMC and earn the credits
Then switch the FI to RHB CMF
Finally switch RHB CMF to my desired equity fund, which is not doing any promo at the moment , using credits

Will this work ?
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U have account with eut, right?
Just use eut for switching from eq fund house A to eq fund house B, during promotion. No sales charges if >5k. Just need 2 days.

Credit on fsm is only useful, for eq fund to fi n via versa. Not good for eq to eq fund, esp during big market swing. Take at 8 working days.
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post Feb 8 2018, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 8 2018, 05:48 PM)
lol celaka my portfolio dropped 9%
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 8 2018, 08:41 PM)
yup close to 9%, i rmber seeing my portfolio close to +30%, now left 21%+

i noticed there's dividend for ponzi 2.0, maybe that affects the % abit..
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Your calculation is wrong and is scaring people.

Your PROFIT drops from +30% to +21%, so it means your portfolio drops from +130% to +121% of your initial investment.

Total drop of PORTFOLIO
= 121/130 - 100%
= 6.9% drops only, not 9% drops.


In my radar, no fund drops >10% in these few days...

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post Feb 12 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Feb 12 2018, 06:58 PM)
Another bleeding day. Worst this time I think..
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Today is not bleeding lah.
samsung goes up, tencent goes up, taiwan semicon also goes up.
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post Feb 12 2018, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Feb 12 2018, 07:41 PM)
I think u in wrong thread. This is UT thread. Not individual stocks thread. What we see today is last Friday numbers...
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UT is a basket of stocks. In fact, ALL Asia Equity Fund are investing into Tencent, Samsung, and Taiwan Semicon. Their direction determine the direction of NAV of fund like ponzi 2.

All of them are go up today. So, definitely,the market is not bleeding today.

May be, you meant LAST FRIDAY was another bleeding day.



QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Feb 12 2018, 06:58 PM)
Another bleeding day. Worst this time I think..
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post Feb 14 2018, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 13 2018, 04:21 PM)
Not long ago, someone wrote to complain / kaw-peh-kaw-bu about TA tech fund holding up to almost 30% cash.

Now, I wonder that same person will still curse or compliment TA tech's fund manager decision or not?
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Ta tech fund didn't drop much (-5%) because it didn't increase at all (as other global fund) before this recent stock routs.
In 3m, 6m basic, it lose to other global equity / even global balance fund. If u bought TGT 3 months ago, u still losing money and ur time. Other global fund are in positive range.

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Compare to the other one Global Tech fund in FSM, United Global Tech, which has almost 100% into stocks, didn't show TGT is more resilient too.


if you need lower volatility or higher reward/risk, better put 40% of your fund buying CMF/ or ASNB.


It is just my opinion.




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post Feb 15 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(killeralta @ Feb 15 2018, 12:07 PM)
This year did not receive fsm red packet  :'(

Lat year almost top up 20k also not qualified...
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Last year, i received the red packet from FSM AFTER CNY.
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post Feb 15 2018, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 15 2018, 06:06 AM)
US market up more than 1%.. guess time to move in my FI to EQ now
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Sure boh?
Hang Seng had been up +5% since this Monday, DOW ind had been up 4.4% since this Monday. Today is the 4th rise day.
Index almost recovered 50% of the loss last week.

I switched in my FI to EQ on 06 Feb and 09 Feb, both of them are earning now.

Normally, people buy during bad days and sell during good days. But, you are doing the reversed way, good luck. to you.






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post Feb 16 2018, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Feb 16 2018, 05:15 PM)
Fi to eq
.What that mean
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Fi to eq is : Switching from Fixed Income Fund to Equity Fund.

For a sizable portfolio, let say more than RM500K portfolio, DCA/ monthly top up of RM5K is only less than 1% of the total portfolio.
Therefore, switching from FI to Equity is more efficient if wanna buying in dips.

For illustrration:

Let say u have a portfolio of RM500K and allocation of 30% in FI (RM150K) .
During every market correction of 5%, switching 20% of your FI (RM 30K) to equity fund, is almost same as buying RM 30K/ top up 6% of your total portfolio .
If u "DCA" "DCA" "DCA" only, you only can topup 5K per month (unless u r a money printer lah), and it is less than 1% of ur portfolio.

That is the reason always allocate a portion of your portfolio in Fixed Income Fund is important.
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post Feb 17 2018, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Feb 16 2018, 10:17 PM)
Hi all - I've tried using FSM to purchase funds using EPF AC but was rejected twice due to unclear thumb print. Is there a way to execute this at EPF office so I don't get rejected again?
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Same fate with u. I had been rejected once due to unclear thumbprint. Staff in CIMB and FSM had checked the docs, thought no problem on the thumbprint, but been rejected by EPF...
Not that easy to get out EPF money nowadays.

edit : So, if u go to EPF office and make ur thumbprint there, also not guarantee it wont be rejected. Because the staff that get ur thumbprint and the person to approve ur withdrawal may not be the same person.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 16 2018, 11:31 PM)
Depends. Some yes. Best to check with customer service before doing a switch

To avoid getting charge
1) learn credit ninja trick (EQ A > bond fund A > bond fund B < EQ B)  where A and B represent different fund house.
2) open a wrap account where you can switch for free but at a cost of annual platform fee of about 1% which brings us to no 3) invest directly in FSM SG and you can switch around for free but pay only 0.4%p.a platform fee
4) invest using POEMS SG and avoid all service charge + platform fee + switching free (it's basically free to buy,  hold and switch - all fee is 0%)

Fix income means those with the name bond fund while equity fund dies not have any "bond fund" name.
Majority of bond funds only give you board FD rates or worse. There are some which give you double digits but best avoided as if you want double digit,  you go for equities. A bond fund is not for chasing returns. It's to stabile the portfolio.
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U missed out the easiest way:
5) eUT : Intra Switching is free of sales charges. Inter switching during promotion (>5K 0% sale charge promotion) is also free.

About the sales charge when buying UT,
If u know the actual meaning of "Intra Switching in eUT is free of sales charges", then u can buy most of the equity fund available in euT at 0% sales charge all the time.
I won;t like to be too exposed. Think urself.


QUOTE(kenny79 @ Feb 16 2018, 11:10 PM)
Switching will have extra sale charges even in same fundhouse?how to defined the fix income and the equity fund?thank you quite new in ut
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In FSM, switching from lower tier to higher tier is subjected to sales charge. But, for switching in same fund house, you can waived the sales charge with credit.
The golden rules to gather and accumulate the credit is:
- never sell/switch ur equity fund to ur bank account/ CMF/ other Fund House directly, always switch it to bond fund in the same fund house for credit first.

cheers smile.gif and happy CNY.

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post Feb 18 2018, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Feb 18 2018, 05:05 PM)
Sifus, since this is the year of dog, that day I read in the paper, an old fashioned way to buy stock for lazy people known as TOP DOG ROTATION.

- buy the TOP 10 stock for the previous year, and wait review next year, if the stock still same, buy it again, if not in the list, replace it with the newcomer.

I was wondering, is it working on ut too?
Buying top 10 perf EQ and wait after windows dressing sell and buy again. Rinse and repeat...

Opinion?
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To check whether this way works or not, lets look at the TOP 10 UT in 2016 and its performance in 2017:

For 2016,
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...lent-Times-7893

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For 2017,
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-Investors-9308

Obviously, u lose BIG money now (around 10% to 20%..) if you bought those TOP 10 UT of 2016 (Gold Fund/ resource Fund/ Indo Fund) by Jan 2017 and hold until now.

Same, if u bought IDS because lured by its extraordinary performance in Q1 - Q3 2017, around end of Q3 last year, then u r losing big money now too.

So, I think it is a dangerous tactics in UT investment.

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