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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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i1899
post Feb 26 2018, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tongny @ Feb 26 2018, 09:31 PM)
So it really is around 1.8%++ ( including GST)?

Because usually it is 3%....
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Yes, cash investment and EPF investment have the same sales charges at FSM.

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post Feb 28 2018, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 28 2018, 04:35 PM)
if i am not mistaken....i1899 did mentioned United Global Quality Equity fd sometime back.......
can try to have a look then tell us what you think...
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United Global Quality Equity doesn't disappoint me so far..

But, just as reminder,

Before step into United Funds, please take note below points:
1) 1% (intra fund house) switching fee for almost all united funds.
2) Minimum redeem units : 1000 units.
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post Feb 28 2018, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Feb 28 2018, 05:10 PM)
EQ to FI should be still FOC right?  hmm.gif

If we use ninja trick (EQ to FI to EQ), should be still free.... tongue.gif
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Not, switching fee cannot be offset by credit, only the sales charge can be waived using credit.
if perform INTRA swiching among UNITED funds, need to pay 1% as switching fee.
1% is quite high for me, is higher than my entitled sales charges.

So, Ninja trick is not good for united funds switching The only way to not pay the switching fee is directly sell to bank account or CMF.

Refer to :

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...svdo?code=MYUOB


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post Feb 28 2018, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Feb 28 2018, 06:00 PM)
hmm....maybe it will get waived? Like Manulife...  sleep.gif
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u can try to get a special offer, but i can confirm u that UNITED 1% switching fee cannot be waived, at this moment.


Manulife waive only 6 switching / year , max amount/ year is RM25x6 = RM150. it is waived by Manulife, not FSM.

pls refer to: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...do?code=MYMLIFE

Remark : Manulife Asset Management Services Berhad will waive the switching fee for the first 6 switching in a calendar year for each unit holder.


Switching fee on RHB is also RM25 and it also cannot be waived.

RM25/ switching is nothing, is not same story with UNITED 1% switching fee.





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post Feb 28 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Feb 28 2018, 09:41 PM)
I don't quite get the 1% switching fee, does that mean if I wanna switch I need to switch RM1060 worth if the other fund investment amount is RM1000? unsure.gif
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United's 1% switching fee is applicable to INTRA fund house switching only.

For example, when u want to switch RM100K from United Global Quality to United Japan Discovery.
- RM1K will be deducted from United Global Quality, as switching fee, and then RM99K will be switched to United Japan Discovery. No credit is utilized in this case because no sales charges.

1 year later, the RM99K grows to RM120K.. u decided to switch United Japan to United Income Plus Fund.
Then, the other RM1.2K will be deducted from United Japan Fund.


So, total paid switching fee is RM2.2K, and snow ball will be bigger and bigger if always doing intra switching among UNITED Funds.



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post Mar 1 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 1 2018, 11:02 AM)
should consider MYR Hedged or USD one? really cannot invest more into GL already..
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of course MYR Hedged, becoz hedged currency fund can reduce currency risk significantly.

QUOTE(ehwee @ Mar 1 2018, 12:52 PM)
anyone know as CIMB bond fund require min subsequent top up of RM500.00, can I switch some amount less than that say RM300.00 from my other CIMB equity fund to CIMB bond fund, will FSM accept the transaction?
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not, u cannot.
i1899
post Mar 1 2018, 09:14 PM

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February not so bad lah.

MoM : -1.44%,

YTD +0.65%



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post Mar 2 2018, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 1 2018, 09:50 PM)
now new year also over liao.

from last year dec say wait cny over now also over liao.

why la this drop drag so long sighhhh
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what u waited for?

market up up drop drop.
as long as buy when drops and sell when up, then should able to earn $.



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post Mar 5 2018, 06:05 PM

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The outlook of bond/bond funds are not good since early of 2017, EMB / High Yield bond even worse.
But, FSM HK & FSM MY still overweight EMB now (refer to FSM DPMS Portfolio Strategy table in FSM monthly commentary of MP).

Looking at conservative managed portfolio's latest factsheet, i noticed 6M ROI is -0.1%... ppl bought it must be very very disappointed now.

ROI of Aggressive Portfolio (90% EQ) is worse than my 75% EQ DIY portfolio. dry.gif
In the other words, MP 's risk is higher but with lower ROI.
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post Mar 6 2018, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Mar 6 2018, 04:06 PM)
Hello guys, how do you think about the FSM Fund Choice March 2018- Manulife Asia Pacific Growth Fund?
TQ.
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FSM Fund Choice March 2018 is Manulife Asia Pacific Income and Growth Fund.

It is a Balanced Fund invested to Asia Pacific Ex Japan (Pacific means Australia is included).

Factsheet is not available at FSM, but it can be found at below link:
http://www.manulifefunds.com.hk/pwsdfp/man...-spc/mapi2u.pdf



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post Mar 7 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 7 2018, 05:59 PM)
Please don't get me wrong guys.
I intend to do this because I want to
-lock profit (miss many times to lock already)
-I need money now
-to cut lost. I did rebal last august and yea, that's the time most fund fly high and now drop deep and I cant afford to lost it after my managed port bleed real bad.

However, those who see this as an opportunity, the coming drop is really good time to buy in.
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Personally, i think below reason is very weird reason for selling UT.

"I need money now"
- if u need BIG money NOW, u should know earlier, right? A better way is sell gradually since at least 6 months ago.
- And, don't use emergency fund/ saving for wedding/ house down-payment for investment, so that u not need to sell with loss when u need them.
- if u r a retiree, u just need to sell "a bit" every month for ur expenses, not ALL...


So, i need money now, then i sell ALL now, sounds no sense.





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post Mar 8 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 8 2018, 02:40 PM)
Your Japan is bad? My Japan is what's keeping my funds afloat. biggrin.gif
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United Japan Small and Mid Cap Fund
UJSMCJP:SP
YTD RETURN
-3.29%


United Japan Discovery Fund
UNIJPDH:MK
YTD RETURN
-2.58%


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post Mar 8 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 8 2018, 09:07 AM)

Its for my education. I planned all already to gain as much as possible. Suddenly my uni close down the 6 month grace period for paying. Or else I will only pay last minute and the money in FSM can gain some petrol for me. Too bad, the uni so cruel... Pay them earlier they gain a lot and I gain nothing....
Managed port I wont touch. It hold 60% of the FSM port. My DIY port is small enough.
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Don't use "emergency fund" for risk investment like UT.
"Emergency fund" is expenses reserved for next 6 months, includes education fee, normal living expenses, renovation of house etc etc, in upcoming months .

Invest in stock/UT using money that u won't need for at least 2-3 years.
If that money can stay inside market for at least 1 full cycle (10 years) is the best lah.

Good luck and happy investing.





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post Mar 8 2018, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Mar 8 2018, 08:27 PM)
not surprising.. giving so much market volatility
imo, still more to come.. brave urself for the ride yo brows.gif

DIY -2.40
MP -1.85
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Buy-the-dip-believers-rejoice-as-white-house-eases-trade-tension



QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 8 2018, 07:10 PM)
Another disappointing fund recently is Manulife REIT.

3y years chart n below all show crossover to downtrend.

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As expected.
Interest rate hike is not good for REIT.

I removed REIT fund from my portfolio since second half of 2016.

This post has been edited by i1899: Mar 8 2018, 10:03 PM
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post Mar 9 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Mar 9 2018, 02:54 PM)
If u checked their factsheet the reported MoM lost is merely -0.5% for February. They calculation is very misleading. My managed  moderate aggresive recorded -2% ..
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I am sure they did the calculation wrong! doh.gif

If you calculated the "weighted average of ROI" using the data in their performance table, MoM ROI for Aggressive is -2.1% and M.Aggressive is -1.8%.

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For aggressive portfolio, they reported MoM ROI is -0.9%, but 90% of the portfolio (equity portion) having -2.33%, so the reported value makes no sense, and logically wrong.


FSM oh FSM... what happened to u, not able to perform a simple calculation ?
How can i have confidence on your research article?




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post Mar 9 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Mar 9 2018, 04:29 PM)
the -0.9% is with respect to their original portfolio value (10k). Your calculation is with respect to previous month (31 Jan). So no, they are not wrong, you just comparing apple to orange  biggrin.gif
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i am not understand what u were trying to clarrify?

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The -0.9% is 1 month ROI intable above.
Everyone knows 1M ROI is respect to previous month (31 Jan), not to the original portfolio value.



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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 8 2018, 10:13 PM)
Curious why 10 years = 1 full cycle?  hmm.gif
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Invest in stock/UT using money that u won't need for at least 2-3 years.
If that money can stay inside market for at least 1 full cycle (10 years) is the best lah.


The important point here is not how long is the full stock market cycle, but the main point here is that stay LONGER in market for AT LEAST the WHOLE cycle.
Anyway, historically, stock market's crash* MOSTLY happens every 10 years***.

* In economic terminology (i studied Engineering, info below are from my side readings),
- crash :>20% drops in relatively short period (around 1 week).
- bearish/recession : >20% drops from the peak, and stays for > 2months
- correction: 10% to 20% drops from the recent peak.

*** Recent market crash events:
- 2008 Global Financial Crisis
- 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
- 1987 October 19: Black Monday


QUOTE(ssl_lim @ Mar 8 2018, 11:42 PM)
Serious? Then need sell off all UT although still lost..I bought it start end of last year sad.gif
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Don't misunderstand...

In long term, market performs as big up-trending sinusoidal wave.

The reason to stay LONGER in market for AT LEAST the WHOLE cycle is:
- if u bought near peak, u can sell near the NEXT peak which u will have chance to meet if stay in the whole cycle. Imagine the up-trending sinusoidal wave....




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post Mar 9 2018, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 9 2018, 04:46 PM)
now you know why I so frustrated le.

every Q charge some more.
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The performance of managed portfolio is not guaranteed, so not need to get angry when it does not perform.

The charges of managed portfolio is black and white written when you bought, so not need to get angry when paying.

But, IF "MoM ROI" reported in the official monthly factsheet is not the real one, or had been modified to lure more investor or to keep existing investor inside the game , then it is quite serious problem... u should get frustrated and get an explanation from them.

MA: reported -0.5% vs real -1.8%
Agg: reported -0.9% vs real -2.1%

not understand..





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post Mar 10 2018, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 10 2018, 10:22 AM)
That statement is dated 8th March.

The "1 month" is referring to Feb 2018.

calm down and re-calculate see if is still wrong
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I am sure that they did the calculation wrong, reported the misleading/wrong "MoM ROI" and "ROI since reception" in their "monthly factsheet" (not monthly statement, as i am not investing to their managed portfolio & did not receive it).
Now, i just want to know it is a problem of ability of calculation or problem of integrity.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 10 2018, 10:23 AM)
You do know from statement date to real report,  there's a lagging period right?
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What's related to statement date?
In any February MONTHLY factsheet, MoM ROI is calculated from 01 Feb to 28 Feb 18.
It is common sense, everyone should know before step into investment. If dont know, better go back to school. dry.gif


QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Mar 10 2018, 11:15 AM)
it is stated clearly in the factsheet that data used is up till 28 February 2018. although the released date is 8 of march. New investor please do take notes of this discrepancy in the MoM RoI before u signed up.
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Precisely.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2018, 11:23 AM)
Only MOM data?.....what abt others like...since inception roi data?
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Since inception roi and YTD are wrong as well.


Beware and happy investing.

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post Mar 12 2018, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Mar 12 2018, 01:38 PM)
I sold on March 6 because scared of volatility , it was about +2% that day.
Then drop a little bit next day but next 3 consecutive days surge >1% per day
Loss quite a bit....
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