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post Feb 20 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Feb 20 2017, 04:38 PM)
haha. it's also sexy if one knows their way around the kitchen. you're the sexy man with finances and she's the sexy one in the kitchen. i would like to try some of her pies too. oh wai... not an inuuendo is it? brows.gif
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hahahaha...very astute my young friend!
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post Feb 20 2017, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 20 2017, 04:57 PM)
Given a choice I won't visit a doc who checks stock market in real time feed. Will you ? LOL.
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I don't check live feed lah. not a guy to trade stocks as my poor heart can't take it. I rather be fixing broken bones than getting a stroke.
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post Feb 20 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2017, 06:12 PM)
Tell that to Manulife AP REITS. This fund gave me 3.2% return in 3 months vs Amasia which only give 1.xx% after 6 months+!  bruce.gif Both same amount just different buying time.
You could also use this simple allocation.
http://www.turtleinvestor.net/asset-allocation/

Replace STI with Nikko SG Dividend Class
SG Bond etf with Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund
REITS with either Amasia/Manulife
VWRD with Manulife US.
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so you planning to switch or keep? last I remember you are planning to shift all your investments to Singapore kan
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post Feb 20 2017, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 20 2017, 06:49 PM)
Talking about calculative, you must be no 1 liaow. LOL
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lol don't laugh him bro. who knows he will make it big one day and I'll have to call him sifu
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post Feb 20 2017, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2017, 06:57 PM)
It's just principal. Take some broker for eg (international ones). They charge you just for keeping the stocks you buy with them while another broker charge nothing. Both have same brokerage fees. Doesn't make sense why?

A one time service charge is better. With platform fees, even if you don't buy you kena charge. What kind of nonsense is that?  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
Every new subsequent purchase will also kena charge. So you will kena charge double. Old fund + new fund  devil.gif
In the long run, platform fees > service charge.  sad.gif
Think of a water container with a pin hole leak. The water is your money and the pin hole leak is your platform fees. Overtime, water is loss via pinhole leak but you don't see it (cause it's too little but it's real) 

I am never a supporter of platform fees. I avoid them where possible unless no choice (see my stock eg above)
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how are the girls over in fsm gonna get paid to handle your paper work eh bro? kesian those girls girls.
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post Feb 21 2017, 10:07 AM

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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ommodities-8012

Anyone going to the event? Please share as I am curious the outlook of reits
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post Feb 21 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(cjseng @ Feb 21 2017, 12:38 PM)
Silly question to Sifu here, always saw posting ponzi 1.0, 2.0 and esther. What is these funds and no search result found in fsm?

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please read through page one. post 1.

Thank you.
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post Feb 21 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(cjseng @ Feb 21 2017, 03:49 PM)
Quite complicated:

RHB Emerging Market Bond Fund -20%
AFFIN HWANG SELECT BOND FUND - 20%
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - 20%
Global Titans fund - 20%
manulife India-10%
East spring small cap- 10%



target for 10 years monthly saving between balance to aggressive portfolio I guess.

Open for advice and comments, many thanks!
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you playing pokemon ar. countries covered as per edited

malaysia
Asia ex japan
emerging markets
developed markets (us, Europe, japan)
India
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post Feb 21 2017, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 21 2017, 05:50 PM)
I switched out all my RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust into the RHB Money Market Fund. Eventually this money will be transferred out into my stock market portfolio.

Maintaining KGF and ESIC in my FSM portfolio.
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planning to buy which stock bro? let's share some info.
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post Feb 21 2017, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 21 2017, 06:03 PM)
Please see my signature for the list of stocks which I have purchased in the past 2 weeks since I started my stock market investment (or trading) journey. I am active in Traders Kopitiam. Out of respect for the members here, we can continue our discussion there.
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ah shit. mobile can't view signatures. sure sure buddy! onward to stock exchange!
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post Feb 21 2017, 10:48 PM

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doing another epf withdrawal this year to take advantage of the tax loop hole and buy prs.


is this a tax loop hole?
withdraw epf money to pay for monthly housing loan. when they bank in the fund use it purchase in prs in fsm for max 3k and get additional 1k for this year from budget 2017. application for tax relief two times on same monies.

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 21 2017, 10:51 PM)
opportunity cost of withdrawal $$ from EPF is abt 5.7% pa.
if possible don't touch EPF but use cash
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tax relief and Free money. who won't want that.

btw

3000x5.7%=171

where as

1000/3000x100=33% profit.

that haven't calculated the tax relief yet bro. two times since you keyed in the tax relief for epf contribution and then later key the same money into your prs contribution.

I think it beats 5.7% any day.

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QUOTE(gsan @ Feb 21 2017, 11:14 PM)
can we use epf to invest on prs???  :confused:  :confused:
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bro read my post again eh. withdraw epf to pay housing loan but the money goes into your bank account. use said money to channel into fsm and buy into prs funds
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 21 2017, 11:28 PM)
What is the additional 1k from?
PRS youth incentive?
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yes

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post Feb 22 2017, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 22 2017, 09:26 AM)
Morning all, just for sharing. This shows where all the big investment company are putting their bet on. So maybe can help you decide where you should invest in.[attachmentid=8512171]

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Just what to add in what i gather from this info, i am noob don't flame me ya.
When Trump came into power there was a huge capital flight from China for fear of trade war. Now when things start to settle down that capital is going into emerging markets like Russia. Maybe Trump showing signs of wanting to be Putin's buddy. But China now seems to be under valued maybe for fear there is still chance for trade war. So maybe China is a good bet, with leadership change unlikely and strong domestic demands.
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there's an article posted by fsm.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...uary-2017--8014

it reiterates my belief that you should still be invested in China. people keep saying it will break every year but I realized it's too big to fail.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 22 2017, 10:36 AM)
CIMB china went down 40% in the previous correction. Would you stay put when it happens again ?

That's question I always ask myself.
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I would because I already placed measures to make sure I can withstand the fall out. plus I always believed a reset button is needed to every once awhile. look at 2008 American economical disaster. people see it as a recession. I see it as a lesson to everyone not not let banks do whatever shit they want which caused the problem to begin with.

you never learn when you never fall.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM)
Then obama put in those stops on the banks. Now Trupm is taking away the stops. Another road to a big reset ? biggrin.gif
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well that's why I keep my allocation in us around 15% where as I'm heavily invested in Asia. I don't trust trump and I never will. America is going into a major reset button. it's inevitable. American populace have been ruled by liberals and politically correct politicians for far too long. that's my take on the current trend. let the populist vote their far left governments first. get things broken. get things fixed. it's all a circle.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 22 2017, 02:54 PM)
FSM participants are mostly kiam siap kwee (cheapskate). The money we save can be used to buy booze,  yamcha, tok-kok & blow water.  thumbup.gif

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and don't forget for cheong sessions for some. lol
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Feb 22 2017, 05:45 PM)
Both sifus, can I know your personal finance general portfolio? Not only UT, I mean how many % in KLSE, how many % in UT, how many % in FD or etc.

Hope to learn a thing or two from you, thank you  rclxms.gif
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there's no set rule. some people really believe in FD they place whatever they have in FD in multiple certificates that mature at different months, others find the thrill of stock trading, others like us find it convenient to buy into fsm where as others love their cimb bank RM that they pay extra service for the special feeling

think about it this way,as long as are learning each day to be better than what you are yesterday and make every day count is the best investment that one can make.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2017, 06:14 PM)
Not sifu. But let me share with you my story. Used to be 100% promo FD, then move 30% into Amanah saham fixed price. Was planning to move 100%. Found out about FSM so decide to divert the remaining 70% into FSM. Got as far as 30% then realise RM is dropping like dead flies against all currency. Switch my remaining 40% into SGD for SGX. Will move out my FSM portion to Singapore UT. Additionally 10% from amanah saham into SGX and Singapore UT.

Reason for moving
1) I am trying to make sure inflation don't eat into my money
2) Protect my RM from continuous and futrue decline.

No point earning 5-7% (dividends) in KLSE and see your RM depreciate. Better earn 5-7% (dividends) in SGX and have your value protected. Same with UT. No point earning 10% in MY when you can earned the same 10% in SG.

As you can see it's not fixed. Up to individual prefences and need.
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please be aware that Ramjade has already considered moving his assets to Singapore and looking to get 10% returns after factoring in exchange rate charges and that our currency will further depreciate against Singapore dollar.

it makes no sense to convert your currency to Singapore dollars then convert it back. it will have already eaten a chunk of your returns. on top of it, you need to include your traveling time to Singapore to open an account and there's a limit on how you much you can bring through each time.

like he said up to individual preferences. just make sure you know and understand what you are doing

QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 22 2017, 06:18 PM)
Uh......totally not related to the topic......but what are "cheong sessions"...?
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lol.... how do I put it this way nicely.... looking for chickens in the middle of the night when you are hungry. some even look for chickens during day time after work..

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