not really, zen3 overhauled the CCX to improve memory latency. the only thing still the same with zen2 is the chiplet approach.

The rearranging ccx layout is quite a big feat especially when it comes to the I/O portion. As you know the CCX dont have to move back and forth as often with the IOD so there’s alot of things has to be re-written in the microcodes.

It’s like engine swap a wira with an evo engine... it wont be plug and play, the suspension, brakes, gears, chasis stiffening etc all need to be done before the car is drivable.

That was why initially they dont intend the zen3 to have backwards compatibility on chipsets. So now Im even more curious to see how it’ll work on a B450/x470. I was originally planning to test that out, but i lost patience with all the problems b450 gives with my zen2 so ive switched to b550 before zen3 lol.

Stupid purchase wasting money when game can half price next Christmas

Oh I didn't know that, but it is ok la, I already bought it.

Nice. No AGESA 1.1.9.0 for my board at the moment.

I know the reputation is Asus has the best BIOS, but the Asrock B550 is better built than the Asus and has nicer rear I/O among other things. Just wondering if the Asrock board here specifically is plagued with BIOS issues and instability, that's all.

it’s just more of design error in early production and also a microcode that is full of bugs.. and not to mention agesa that is not transparent.

my amd cant do alot of things currently unless i run the stuff inside a VM lol... maybe cuz the stuff i do rapes the ram and cache more than average gamers /video renders / benchmarks and required high accuracy. So it’s crashing or errored out very frequent.. Especially during the times when I use my own rig while working from home. Remote into my company’s redundant xeon server and it works flawlessly.

Till today, amd is still full of bugs and they dont seem to be fixing it... they just ditch and move on to the next gen.. like the agesa support for b450 like completely stopped. I changed to B550 out of frustration and the stability problems gone away due to the newer agesa. But many old bugs is still not fixed.

In the end we gotta see which flaw weighs more than the other. And regarding “security flaw”...  as a guy who studied cyber security and ethical hacking i wouldnt call it a purposed design error or a cover up... it’s a security breach that was found by third parties. No system is perfectly secure... it’s more on how much effort an attacker wants only. If a similar effort is being done on amd, pretty sure alot of things will pop up as well.

And lo and behold... a bunch of breaches was found on amd recently where one breach is vulnerable since bulldozer.

vulnerabilities always discovered or studied on mainstream or enterprise stuff... back then intel was kinda the monopoly so of course there are millions of cyber security students and professionals used intel as their test bed for their thesis and research. Now when amd is growing big, these people will start scrutinizing on amd.. and in just a short window, a bunch of vulnerabilities are already found... and i believe there will be more and more.

Altho as home users, just like the vulnerabilities intel poses.. we dont have to worry la.. and we’re not really affected unless got hidden sex tape or some super profitable blueprint or something lol.

Hi Guys,

Need your opinion on nowadays system build.

I haven't being much into PC build since 2012. I'm still with my Ivy Bridge system currently.  So next few month I'm planning to build a new system for myself.

I'm looking at both platform: here are my choice of hardware spec:

AMD:

Ryzen 9 5900x
MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi
Corsair VG PRO RGB 3200 DDR4 CL16 (32GB kit)

Intel:

Core i9-10900K/10850K
MSI Z490 Tomahawk
Corsair VG Pro RGB 3200 DDR4 CL16 (32GB kit)

I already own PSU CM V1200 / GFX card XFX RX580 / SSD ADATA & Seagate nvme.

So I need your opinion should I go with AMD build or Intel?  is AMD system fuss free and stable enough like Intel system?

I don't game much, basically I play around with light photo editing and some light video editing (Filmora) and some VMware (Hyper-V) and (VmPlayer)
thank.

Ic... so what you means its kind of a gamble with AMD system? so if I choose AMD, I have to look into specific Mobo bios and Ram specification chip?