Ppl always like that. If it doesn't happen in my system , it's not my problem or the problem never exist.
They will only wake up only hit by the problem.

Ppls who look desperately 5900x this is the chance, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5080686/+0&#entry99453429

well for some users, it really have no issues. My cousin has no issues and never crashed in games. But he bought his ryzen 3600 after quite some time. Still cannot deny there are small percentage of users did have hair wrenching issues that just gives headaches

Yeah, guys got back a new silicon replacement all working fine after RMA.
So AMD really shit out on the silicon. This they will NEVER admit in public.

i know.

build one 3600x some cheapo giga b450 and 3950x b550 strix itx for friend. both running 24/7 no issue.

the problem is .. y does bsod exist in 2020

intel cpu if u bsod on stock. 99% chance is mobo bad (not bios) meaning mobo qc..

cpu are not suppose to bsod on stock since its running within electrical/thermal. the qc is on the wafer.

seems like amd wafer 7nm on efficiency is actually bad. they are not pretesting cpus like intel with vid testing.

hence y amd whole lineup of cpus over the decades.. only zen cpus .. electrical:thermal: full spec of the cpu is not published

back in aug. a shop had a sp52 10900k. i saw it. told them rma. y? cause the operating vid... literally at the edge/border.. simple. we got hundred pages of dats from intel on the spec.

simple question
whats the tcke operating timings of zen cpu.. (btw running 0 or 1 is da noob nonsense) theres a min value btw
its right there in intel imc spec. all timings.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 1 2021, 10:53 AM

You are right, can't denied the current issue on the Zen3 most likely due to the wafer QC and probably AMD also aware of this but the management try to hide it under carpet.
With the extremely high demand of chips produced by this 7nm node i guess QC no longer an important aspect, what their target is to produce as much as possible the volume of chips.

This i tend to agree. I have previously a 5930k with a Rampage V Ex. that bsod at stock. Both are newly bought.
I bought another RVE just to see if it's mobo. And true enough, it's stable without random bsod with the 2nd mobo.

He's just pulling your legs lar , no need to be offended on the zen defense thing.

Yeah, complaining about "nerfed" 10900K when techpowerup uses NH-U12S cooler on all CPUs is lol. This one uses H150i on all CPUs.



https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mai...5950x_review/23

Hard data with specs is the proof. Kindly take note I hammered AMD hard on Sandy Bridge to Skylake days.

Oh yeah, still no crashes from me and 1 friend. Thank you very much. I can't comment on people having BSODs though.

It's ok bro, my money i decided what i want right? I'm a matured adult, not like those youngster fellas everyday Intel vs AMD/ Nvidia vs AMD...if Intel can come out a 12/16core mainstream chips today i will buy in..agree?

This post has been edited by llk: Jan 1 2021, 11:08 AM

Yeah. I have been through 3Dfx voodoo , Riva TnT, ATI Rage series and AMD Thunderbird generation up till now. So, it's nothing new. Youngsters nowadays will never appreciate how tech has progressed.

Also REVIEWERS themselves some shld give a thought to "MORE is not always BETTER"

This post has been edited by targon: Jan 1 2021, 11:22 AM

lol.
can u hit the specified boost clock without pbo

rest my case on da definition of stock published spec
btw that temp/power published is 56sec on intel..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 1 2021, 11:25 AM

Yup. More than advertised boost. 4.95Ghz.



Someone says my board cheats though.

Mine 5900x also can see often hit 4.95Ghz max, without adjusting anything in the bios or software.
Cheers

My current 5600x running on PBO and + 200mhz with 3600mhz ram tweaked to 3200mhz with better timings. Running it on a B550 Aorus pro board, been stable since a month ago when I got it.

I've even tried just plain tweaking my ram to run on 4000mhz previously for a short while, without touching the timings, there weren't any improvements so I reverted it back, will try tweaking it again.

so zen 3 doesnt require pbo for max boost
compared to zen2

interesting.

and guessing all these is on b550

see that very statement (board cheats)
if its stock its stock. what board cheating??
the very notion somebody says it shows there is no operating spec. if anything its cpu cheating. not board

every frequency should have a vid which request voltage from the vrm.

so this went above the 4.8 spec. there shouldnt be a vid table above it. so the matter of fact it went up that high suggest its rated at 4.95

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 1 2021, 12:38 PM

It has been doing 4.95ghz since I bought it.

I think it can hit 5.05Ghz with PBO on. My F31e BIOS broke PBO. It does nothing. Did not try it yet with F31q. I'm waiting for final BIOS before i play with PBO again.

Still running at stock. I think it has something to do with "Power Reporting Deviation" for "cheating".



This post has been edited by TristanX: Jan 1 2021, 12:40 PM

post a cpuz single threaded if you are free. curious now what a 5.05 entails to.

power is power. u can ignore it

think as stock cpu
u got operating frequency.
qc is based on operating voltages within a current envelope
thermals are based ok cooling and leakages

no cpu manufacturer so free to bin multiple vids above stock

so since pbo is a 200mhz boost so its fair to assume theres a vid up to 5/5.05

by that power deviation math. that aint stock.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 1 2021, 12:58 PM

This is the CPU-Z.



My board have PBO2 now.



Need to play around with it.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Jan 1 2021, 01:12 PM