Most of ppl who kena Bsod are using Ryzen 9 & 7 as per their postings.

He will have a hard time figuring it out.

that's right. everyone so busy with ryzen that they have forgotten intel. it's also reasonably priced.

It's the cpu and agessa and the supporting platform. as a whole, depending on ur luck, vermeer can be unstable at the moment until they clean up all the mess.
you can check msi forums whereby some forumers have collated all the problems with vermeer encountered by uers with msi mobo.

I saw them unpacking on the first batch, definitely more than 28 units. There's ample units on the first few days itself.
There's lots of 5600 on the 2nd batch. The only shortages is ryzen. 7 & 9

It's the platform instability with zen 3. See if it works a 3200 with the ryzen 5000

This post has been edited by targon: Dec 1 2020, 01:36 PM

Almost a month and every one with issues still waiting for a fix. 😠

manually set it to 3200 from ur current 3600

don't waste ur money on new rams.
ur problems got nothing to do with rams.
New set of rams will not guarantee it will solve the issue.

Latest update from Giga beta bios forum in tweaktown:

Originally posted by Geicher View Post
Thank you for posting. These boards really need patches.

Will test and report if WHEA and random crashes are fixed.
AMD......forcing themself to be better then INTEL......

Edit:
Almost same case has been Zen 2 release as well...AGESA.

Upcoming AGESA 1.1.8.0 totally breaks the Vermeer functionality, so they can only work with Cezanne CPUs, atm....
Other manufacturers....same problem.

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Some shops are pretty smart. Lesser ryzen 5&7 to b bundled with cheaper mobo ( that doesn't mean a b450) while ryzen 9 tied with at least x570

This post has been edited by targon: Dec 5 2020, 05:59 PM

Shared here from another forum. This guy having random boots with a 5950x on a Msi x570 Unify.
Presumably he RMAed the cpu and his response below:

I'm talked to guy from warranty department. He said if what I'm describing will be confirmed during their testing, CPU will be replaced. Also he was not surprised at all and said it's very high percent of defective Ryzen CPUs, up to 10%. Tommorow I'm giving them my CPU for testing.

This post has been edited by targon: Dec 5 2020, 09:58 PM

Did u oc the ram ? Go lower at 3200 and see if problem persist.

Minus the ryzens hype and amd die hard fans, if u take a hard look at the intel portfolio which i did recently , they re pretty attractive.
My take, the sweet spot will be the 8 cores part.
Plus point: they re easily available and lots of mobo choice
(All of those z490 flagship boards are better designed than their x570 counter parts)
Again i m not an intel fan boy but my Amd experience with a random portfolio of their cpu; 3700x (ok), 3900x (died without oc), 3950x (ok) and 5950x (unstable, possibly faulty).
intel's side past 10 years, i have only RMAed once (a 7600k).

That means you don't read far and wide enough.

For sharing, a OCN forumer has started polling statistic for those suffering from random reboots (BSOD) with Bios default settings.


My system with a Ryzen 5000 CPU reboots with BIOS defaults
Yes - Gigabyte motherboard Votes: 11 44.0%
Yes - Asus motherboard Votes: 5 20.0%
Yes - MSI motherboard Votes: 2 8.0%
Yes - Asrock motherboard Votes: 2 8.0%

No. I tested extensively for several days. Votes: 3 12.0%
It did, but a BIOS upgrade fixed it Votes: 2 8.0%
It did, but a replacement CPU fixed it Votes: 0 0.0%
It did, but a replacement motherboard fixed it Votes: 0 0.0%
Yes - Other motherboard brands Votes: 0 0.0%

CPU - 5600X Votes: 0 0.0%
CPU - 5800X Votes: 1 4.0%
CPU - 5900X Votes: 0 0.0%
CPU - 5950X Votes: 5 20.0%

AMD has been busy adding more features like Sma support, undervolting support rather than fixing up instability on zen 3.

that's crazy pricing. it's only a USD400 Mb. but priced closed to Crosshair 8 formula in MY.
Nothing new ler, Asus pricing.

Have u all notice the latest price for 5800x is 2398 ?

This is not Zen 2 which many ppl are used to. Many users are freaking out with zen 3 temperatures. You can see their post everywhere.
AMD has officially acknowledged it's meant to run up max 95 C (it's designed to be that way) for boosting purpose.
So nothing to be surprised about.
Ppl been saying Intel a hot chip potato , now look at these zen 3 instead !

Note:
A lot is yet to be known about the zen 3 and its behavior. Don't think that this is same as Zen 2. no, this is a different beast altogether.
Ryzen 9 literally not available locally atm or if it does, it's at scalper price or bundled with full rig. That's good so ppl can't buy them cos the random Bsod issue not resolved yet (and happens more frequently with Ryzen 9 chips), no one really knows why.