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chocobo7779
post Sep 11 2019, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 11 2019, 08:07 PM)
Almost there for my 3900X on Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master F7a.
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Lots lots of 4.5Ghz too.
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Nice I hope I can get the update sooner or later icon_idea.gif

BTW, on an unrelated note - love that Vista wallpaper laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2019, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Sep 20 2019, 03:37 PM)
Intel's i5 & i3 will always outsell AMD's CPU no matter how good is the price/performance ratio of AMD's CPU

just look at the major prebuilt PC/laptop brands like Dell, HP and the rest, 90% of their products are still based on Intel CPUs

The Blues already heavily dyed in general public's brain, Red still has a lot of catching up to do

General users will still prefer the blues, whereas only PC enthusiasts like us will look into the price/performance ratio, which is a shrinking population in this age of mobile devices.
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Hopefully the upcoming Surface laptop may turn things round a bit icon_idea.gif

Also I wonder why AMD never made a proper competitor to Intel's performance laptop chips? A CPU with performance more comparable to the 9300H/9750H would have been really good IMHO icon_idea.gif

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post Sep 21 2019, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Sep 21 2019, 04:52 AM)
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Glad  i decided to go with the 3600 and b450m instead of 3950x and x570. The wait would have just made me disgruntled.
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Most probably the fact that TSMC is having some supply issues sweat.gif
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post Sep 26 2019, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Sep 26 2019, 07:49 PM)
Is it worth it to upgrage to Ryzen 3gen?
Now using FX4350 + MSI R9380 2GB
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Yes - even the Zen 1 CPUs (aka Ryzen 1000 series) will outperform your FX especially in terms of single threaded performance icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 26 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Sep 26 2019, 08:21 PM)
Thank you all
Now need to fork out money for mobo
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So which CPU did you pick? brows.gif
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post Sep 26 2019, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Sep 26 2019, 11:35 PM)
might be 3600 only
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You might want to look at the B450 Pro4/Steel Legend if you are on a budget, or the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX if you are willing to spend a bit more for better VRMs icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 27 2019, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(MrRaiden @ Sep 27 2019, 07:29 PM)
Yeah. I think to upgrade on AIO. Cooler master ML 240r rgb is good? But I do read some people said AIO cooler when warranty already finished, the hose of the cooling will leak. Is that true? Or I just should upgrade to air cooler recommend by herbal tea and hashtag?
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Might as just well save the money and get something like this:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/scythe-m...554bpC2ZbX&mp=1

Basically a Noctua NH-D15 at half the price, and even outperforms some AIOs too: icon_idea.gif

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https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8320/scyt...iew/index6.html

Note that most AIOs tend to perform the same as it is mostly manufactured by a handful of OEMs:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2122-who...id-coolers-oems

In addition, due to patents from Asetek (a very well known OEM for AIO liquid cooling), very few brands can actually improve the design without ending up with a lawsuit from Asetek (Cooler Master was involved in a lawsuit from Asetek before). However there is some exception, such as the Swiftech H360X3:



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post Sep 27 2019, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(MrRaiden @ Sep 27 2019, 07:29 PM)
Yeah. I think to upgrade on AIO. Cooler master ML 240r rgb is good? But I do read some people said AIO cooler when warranty already finished, the hose of the cooling will leak. Is that true? Or I just should upgrade to air cooler recommend by herbal tea and hashtag?
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The only things that AIOs have the upper hand are:

1. RAM compatibility (some tall air coolers may not have enough clearance for some tall RAMs)
2. Weight - air coolers tend to be very heavy, and might bend the motherboard (the bending issue can be mostly solved by properly mounting the cooler) icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 1 2019, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 1 2019, 11:16 AM)
Dont think malaysia got such offer  sad.gif
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Could be possible due to the fact we used to have free games back in the days of HD7000 series icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 1 2019, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Oct 1 2019, 03:49 PM)
us early adopters habuk pun takda sad.gif
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Well that's just early adopters tax sweat.gif
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post Oct 4 2019, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Oct 4 2019, 06:49 PM)
What kind of improvements would it be then? hmm.gif

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post Oct 15 2019, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(Alert_RaZO @ Oct 15 2019, 01:49 AM)
Hi guys..
I want to build ITX using Ryzen 5 3400G.

Which mobo recommended? Asrock or Gigabyte?
I can only afford B450. I want to connect 2 monitors.

Usually got type C can connect what?
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According to the AM4 VRMs list here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_...t#gid=611478281

Personally I'd get neither - the MSI B450I Gaming Plus would be a better choice than the 2 as the VRMs on board are better icon_idea.gif

For Type C - it's mainly for data transfers (at least on PCs for now) icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 19 2019, 01:55 PM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/260130/intel-sc...ylake-till-2022

Somewhat unrelated, but it looks like Intel is going to end up stuck with 14nm+++++++++ for the foreseeable future sweat.gif
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post Oct 20 2019, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 20 2019, 01:05 PM)
I having issue with my ryzen 5 3600 and msi b450 tomahawk max.
Keep on restart on window and game.
Check my hardware and everything tightened and perform clean window installation & dl latest bios also same..

I do notice my cpu speed permenant at 4.2 ghz and never goes below than that  console.gif

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Anyone facing this issue before? Please help. cry.gif
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Did you disable reboot on system failure on Windows? hmm.gif

Also, try disabling XMP and update your chipset driver icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 20 2019, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 20 2019, 01:23 PM)
Nope..i didnt disable reboot.

Already disable XMP and update to latest driver still the same
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Disable it in Windows settings as it may produce a BSoD icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2019, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Turnip @ Oct 31 2019, 10:45 PM)
Ive just bought b450 gigabye auros itx motherboard + ryzen 2600 , doing an ITX build. 3900x no stock for my local pc shop.

in near future i wana upgrade to 3900x or 3950x

Is my mobo compatible?

Side note:
my previous pc was with an AMD Phenom II 955be, i wonder how does it feel with the leap jump im doing towards a ryzen 2600, gosh im excited, pc will be arriving on Monday.  laugh.gif
Uncle so long havent upgrade PC.
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According to the AM4 VRM list:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_...t#gid=611478281

It's OK as long as you don't overclock - but you'll definitely need some VRM cooling icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Oct 31 2019, 10:39 PM)
looking to get a r5 3600 + b450m setup...
previously heard that it's not stable and alwaz got bug...
is everything stable now?
which is d best budget value b450 mobo currently?
prefer matx...
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B450M Mortar MAX for RM479 icon_idea.gif

I'm running a Zen 2 + Navi setup from day one and it hasn't giving me problems so far icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2019, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Nov 1 2019, 10:35 AM)
nice

btw Asrock B450M Pro4 also another good choice for good vrm tho
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Yup, that's a good one as well icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2019, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ Nov 1 2019, 10:43 AM)
Planning to upgrade

R5 3600 + asrock x570 board + 16gb 3200

is this good enough? or overkill?
i really want that PCIE 4.0 for futureproof *next year already 2020, FUTUREEE
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Personally I'd drop the X570 for a decent B450 - some budget X570 has poor VRM cooling:



Also I highly doubt the GPUs will saturate PCI-E 4.0 anytime soon - even PCI-E 3.0 x4 still barely bottlenecks a RTX 2080 Ti:
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Then use the additional funds to upgrade to a 3700X icon_idea.gif

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post Nov 11 2019, 07:30 PM

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Looks like ASRock is going to update their B450 boards with the latest 1.0.0.4B AGESA:

https://shop.jzelectronic.de/news.php?id=1573458000&sw=

But it's in beta sweat.gif

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