1700x bottlenecking? i thought that it should at least still be sufficient.

still patiently waiting announcement from MSI

And here I thought that this is a good indicator that MSI will be releasing theirs soon as well. Owell guess it will have to wait till January now.

normal. the same cooler on ryzen3600 hits 90C so yours has no issues. If the thermals concern you, just upgrade the cooler.

@goldfries ... can confirm if this board can run wifi, a single m.2 and sata al together without sacrificing the gpu pcie? :bow:

Which really got me thinking.... since im about to change mobo, tempted to just go for Z490 but intel are power suckers and may have issues pairing with another power sucker RTX3080.

If im going for intel, definitely there will not be any overclocking involved as my PSU is only an SF750... and that is also my only worry. since im leaning towards 10900F... and also not sure a 120mm AIO can handle or not

ahhh ITX is fun but it's so tough to make hardware choices. But since getting trolled by MSI, I will go back to being loyal with gaygaybird for mobos .... for both B550i and Z490i choices this time.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Dec 6 2020, 08:10 PM

Would try not to divert off from AMD discussions but whew... where is the intel thread lol.

will need to do alot of considerations atm... 10600 is also another good option given the power consumption is much lower.. but still cannot be compared with a ryzen 5600X. Which is what makes me still prioritizing ryzen.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Dec 6 2020, 08:42 PM

my last amd was the phenom and that was a super disappointment. was an intel user right out of athlon64 when the P4 HT appears then gone to c2duo and c2quad then to the i7 and beyond as I changed from pc to mac...which im still using.

My ryzen first started because i wanna take a shot with ITX simulation/model training rig and the low power consumption of the ryzen 3600 made it very attractive. if it wasnt for the 7nm and 65w, I would most likely say mehhhh.

Now im having some compromise on quality of experience with amd. not really sure that amd is to blame or msi for the way the pcie lane is configured. but it’s a pain in the ass.

However, looking back at the spec sheets again, ryzen still appear more viable for being put in an ITX setup.

turns out itx boards for intel is a little scarce.. so i guess i'll just get the B550i cuz it's still the overall cheaper option.
Wonder if the B550 paired with a R3600 will have as many issues as the Zen3? or should it be just as stable as a B450.. and is pcbyte a reliable seller... they're selling the gigabyte boards RM100 cheaper than the rest.

Gigabyte seems to fit the nicest in the spec/budget and not expensive/overkill like the MSI and most importantly.... it’s not an asus

Why not just remove that block of metal haha but yeah that front usbC header may come useful for some people.

willing to sell cheap?

aisehh that will take weeks ... owell. anyways high idle voltage is a windows power plan issue along with chipset drivers. Dont wanna rip you off. Welcome to da amd experience.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Dec 8 2020, 09:00 AM

Your first time with ryzen? It’s completely normal for high idle temps due to its eagerness to boost up. Thus it’s usually powerplan settings and background softwares that triggers it.... especially RGB and monitoring tools.

MSI components a lil overkill haha.... dont think it’s worth paying close to RM300 more... and seems like it has the weakest bios of the top3. Asus B550i have very stable memory OC .. better to even their atx x570 but the cpu boosts iinm loses out abit to the gaygaybird. However for those who plays 3D benchmark, asus is the best choice.

msi bios can be a bit janky out of the box as im personally also using MSI. But they do tend to be easier for average users with alot of presets for overclocking although if left on auto, some values can be abit too much. However i tweak my RAM settings manually and i dont overclock the cpu so they generally makes no difference to me.

when go full manual/expert mode it’s like that MSI lite bios also same. But yeah... ayam used to it liao, especially coming from old school non uefi bios lol.

many of the issues arent obvious, and some even the zen2 is still facing till today..

issues for example random inconsistent boosts,
pcie lanes not recognizing properly,
high idle voltages,
ram instability on xmp occasionally causing bsod

and many more.

cpu boosting even for opening a folder is not normal lol... for those who have a discrete fan profile, these 1sec random boost will cause the temps to spike to 50C for 1sec and causing the fan to ramp up and down.

High voltage is an issue that was given up. Amd told yall to kiss their ass and accept as it is. Some zen2 chips could idle at 0.4v while some stuck at 1v+. Even on the same mobo. So is this a mobo’s fault?

same goes to the ram stability. It has never been an issue of the mobo, It’s all got to do with the Agesa and that is provided by AMD.

QVL is literally a list of “sorry ive generally fcked up my whole assignement but here’s a small list of things that ive done correctly”

As I’m currently using amd, I can literally list all this issues because i had already dealt with/live with it.

also not to mention 3rd party/custom power plans also affects maximum all core boosts where users will lose performance when they want the power.
And to be honest, i dont think that it is fixed at all up till now... and they already launch the zen3.

What i did is get a fan so silent that even if it ramps up, I couldnt hear it. And my specimen seems to be behaving very well at the very least... ive offered my rig to a few friends to troubleshoot and many of them boosts like an easily triggered vegan karen. To the point that they just leave their aio fan at 70% so it wont ramp up and down.

The main issue here is all the amd simp defending amd saying this issue is normal. Perhaps this diehard fanboyz support is why amd didnt really bother to fix anything. If this were intel, already kena lawsuit.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Dec 8 2020, 04:27 PM

It’s because people like you defending AMD that’s why they’re not doing anything. and you all just keep licking amd’s boots despite blaming users on the fault that is supposedly amd’s.

My room also have a very low noise floor thus the fan is noticeable and of course i had done things to solve it... but this issue shouldnt be there in the first place, and even after one year later, it’s still not solved.