You're using your ram on the 3600 profile?

good I was right up there then.

and no ryzen calc won't fix this as this is no ram issue.

this is an imc/fclk issue.
and that's across all boards and platforms.
worse on some better on others.

run it on the second 3200 xmp profile and you *should* be fine until AMD fixes their terrible AGESA.

yup follow what targon said, load XMP and then set to 3200MHz manually.

asus b550 doesn't have as well. n I highly doubt asrock does. this is what fan controllers are for anyways.

raydenex why don't you just keep your 4x8GB sticks until Agesa 1.1.0.0 D is coming out in early Q1 2021 (some betas probably by late this month)?
That would almost certainly fix your issues. So technically no need to upgrade.

The above Kingston kit will run at 18-21-21 once you slot it in. Fine if cheap.

If others happen to be hunting for non RGB kits with some OC headroom... I got two fresh 32GB (2x16GB) kits in which will be for sale starting this weekend.

Earlier I said Agesa 1.1.0.0 D betas out late this month
Proven wrong already.

ASRock just now released beta versions already.

Fingers crossed others will follow soon then.


Gear Down Mode is on per default (and that's a good thing for stability) and just works with even numers. Hence 16 - 18 - ...
Don't give much about QVL, as I said up there just wait for BIOS updates while running at lower frequency until it's released.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 2 2020, 03:33 PM

Bonchi ur safe...

Wanna bet that issue is gone if you drop fclk? 😉

If you're lucky disabling c-states will do.

Oh n share your memory oc results with some stability tests.

supposedly managing low power/idle states.
in fact sometimes creating issues (even back on zen2 sometimes) but it got worse with zen3.
so for some people around disabling that will help. similar stuff with the df c states.

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This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 8 2020, 04:02 PM

let me get in at that point.

1)
zen2 has quite some clock stretching issues. the effective clock (unlike intel) is sometimes way lower than the displayed one.
early samples were also on the edge of reaching advertised clock speeds and only did so on the lightest of all loads.

2)
it's not about high idle voltages, it's about responsiveness vs energy saving. and this took them a year to properly fix on zen2.
if you wanted less agressive boosts for loads that simply didn't require it there was no other way than to use 3rd party power plants.

3)
just that this is not the problem with 95% of ram issues on zen3. it's simply a symptom caused by a shitty agesa.

sentlon

euhm default TJMax is 95°C... this system would have shut down before u'd see these temps as they are not even hotspot ones.

and no thats not normal for a 5600x. I think either you changed settings in your bios or you use tools that (un)knowingly changed them.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 15 2020, 11:09 AM

5600x is 60A tdc though. check his photo.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 15 2020, 03:40 PM

Be a bit more precise about what you run when you see those temperatures, also take your screenshots with "windows key + Shift + S" and make sure everything is on it.

Basically to me it seemed you might have had PBO enabled and possibly even temperature thresholds changed

What I meant by 60A (TDC not EDC as initially written):
Basically a 5600x being a 65W rated CPU has following limits ... 88W PPT, 60A TDC, 90A EDC.
So on second view those seem to be correct (max 56.509A TDC & 89.101 EDC) on your photo despite the left column being cut off.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 15 2020, 03:46 PM

recommended to those not understanding things and looking for a slow and easy explanation.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 19 2020, 12:14 PM

Gigabyte
Go disable C-States in your BIOS to prevent specific idle states of your CPU.
Fast Reboot and Internal Sound you can enable back, these are just symptoms. Easy Tune I would not use but that's up to you.

If you still have crashes in idle after C-States are disabled use this: https://zentimings.protonrom.com/ and post a screenshot here.

firstly u could buy the 3200c14 kit as cstkl suggested.
secondly 3800c16>>>3733c16>>>3666c16>>3600c14>3600c16
thirdly and to your question, primaries on ryzen don't matter much at all. the differences between 3600c14 vs. c16 are so marginal you barely can see them in benches. much more worthy to adjust secondary n tertiary timings.

also b-dies are no must. a good micron rev e kit is a good deal cheaper n softer on the IC.

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 20 2020, 02:13 AM

even 3200c14 a waste of money if you don't oc properly

Andrewtst sorry to disappoint you but lowering tRC surely wasn't the culprit. more likely a setting tied to XMP itself. But as it is working now, be happy


This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 20 2020, 11:19 PM

funny to call a RM2k board that will perform just as well with a 5600x as a b550 board costing 1/4th a 'steal'.
at least without the potential user requesting any of its features

This post has been edited by nrw: Dec 24 2020, 08:10 PM

irangan
If the 3800C14 B-die kits are too pricey for you ... you can get a kit of 32GB(16x2) Klevv Bolt XR.

I got one for RM550 which I received yesterday. Right now cheapest price I found is 599@Lazada.

Those are dual rank Hynix DJR kits. Very similar in performance numbers compared to Micron Rev. E.

If you guys like I can share some OC experiences with it.