AGESA 1.2.0.0 doesn't seem to make any difference to my Infinity Fabric OC, still limited to 1866Mhz. 
Speaking of which, which batch is your 5900x?
My 5950x batch is 2046 = year 2020 week 46.

Not x variant. Not OC for now. I plan to buy higher cpu few years later, used or whenever the price is reasonable.

Every time I drop by this ryzen thread sure got some performance haggle issues reported (I havent even drop in OCN even)

It seems that this ryzen zen 3 is only good on paper, and also a straw launch. (not even paper launch, at least RTX 3080 and 3090s comes every 2 weeks or so)
Without a minimum of DDR4 3200 CL14 or DDR4 3600 CL16, I dont know if 5900x can beat i9 10900K. If theres something to learn, its that AMD are shills. And youtubers words cannot pakai wan if you buy a PC to game more than anything else - they run it on High end motherboards, under a controlled setting, maybe also paid reviews some of them.

U are not going to run cinebench, prime 95 all day long, certainly 80% gamers are casual group, also do not overclock like those youtubers do.
U buy the PC to instruct it to game lar. And instruct the CPU, I want you sit at this X Ghz all day long because this is the money I invested on you. 
Until now many of u are still running benchmarks to see whether the zen 3 stable ka, temperature ok ka, voltage ok ka. 2 months + already, waiting for AGESA updates (stability stability stability every update is it even a stability update why every time call it stability update)

Finally good luck playing the bsod roulette.

depends on how you view things, some of us just like to play around to squeeze more performance out of it.
just like intel, if you OC, you'll definitely run into instability. It's part of the deal.

sometimes, we post here just to see if there's anyone with similar experience so others might share their experience to aid others.

Same goes to intel even in OCN, people share their experience or difficulty and see if there are pros to help them OC better. Bet that's what CST does in OCN to help others too.

Problem is when people see this sort of posts then witch hunt it like some sort of plague.

it's ok to state a problem, AMD users would understand tbh. I've had issues as well
and this exact thread encourages people to post their problems too.

but too many somes only tell one thing, bonchi.
Many instances that you pointed out are probably past examples that you pulled off your memory
could have been resolved like ya said with bios? but you still held on to it.

then amplify the issue by trying to chain another instance and stack on to the past.
hmm, I'm just questioning how true are the claims?

TBH 99% of people who post comments like yours usually are fanboys blowing air on their products and actually don't know anyone behind the scenes. If your sources are right, you can link back to that and say "told you so" once the news actually comes out lol.

DDR4-6000 on air sounds great nonetheless. revE or B-die though?

At any rate that poster on 4650G and the RAM LN2 pot shows one huge advantage monolithic has over chiplet design - RAM speeds can go higher on Zen2/3 APUs vs the Zen2/3 7nm + 12nm IO die design. I'm struggling to get my 5800X + Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming ITX + Ballistix 3200C16 dual rank to 3800 in coupled mode. The RAM does 3800 easily when decoupled from IF, I can boot IF on 3800 and pass TM5 anta777 config with my RAM kit on XMP timings too, but can't seem to do both together. Not sure if it's down to CPU, or BIOS at this point.

no worries, I get the frustration when you won't know when WHEA creeps onto you.
My CP2077 gameplay crashed left/right until I was forced to grind so I can end a mission quick before the game crash.
To the extent that I reset bios stock, barebone stock ram, cpu, gpu all stock but then still crashed.
Friend's intel plays the game just fine with no crashes.

ever considered you got a potato chip?

they were already winning.

they could have launched a monolithic version of 5600/5800x and won the gaming part.

so far i see 5950x user the most hit. literally 50:50 can work.

Single CCD has issues with heat. Rarely see 5800x user not complain about temps.

It's just an epeen contest with high RAM speeds. Although IIRC Anandtech did review a Corsair 5000 kit that showed a small improvement over the fastest kits for Ryzen in spite of the decoupled IF/uncore to RAM clock.

There is also another aspect to be put into perspective.

A lot of Zen 2 and 3 owners, many of them were upgrading from Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge era. So the perf jump that they are experiencing has already skewed their perception into how large of a jump it has been, thus creating the AMD love.

Maybe next step is the der8auer offset mount for AM4 so the AIO's centerpoint is closer to the CPU die instead of the center of the IHS? Assuming it fits your ITX board of course.
i5 quads to Ryzen will show a far bigger difference than i7 quads upgrading, assuming the i7s were decently clocked (4.4-4.6GHz). HT does make a difference nowadays, even if it didn't for gaming back in 2013.

Agree. Hope Rocket Lake does well too so I have a reason to go back to Intel as well.

Intel better not screw this one up again with value Core i5s.

8 series got away with it due to Zen/Zen+ arch being less competitive in gaming. Built a few 8400 rigs for friends with that, bypasses the need to overclock a 2600 + RAM all the way and end up consuming more power.

9 series i5s was pretty weak vs 3600.

10 series i5s at least added HT, even then B460 locking memory speeds to Intel's CPU max official support meant that 3600 and a decent 3200 kit still trades blows with 10400 and 2666 RAM while being better at non latency-sensitive workloads.

Is B560 going to be like B460 and still use Intel max official support, but Intel will allow DDR4-3200? Or is it full overclocking for frequency too? Can never be too sure with tech journos reporting about it saying it's the latter when RKL supports >2666 RAM officially.

Bonchi
Where does your 5600x made at?

Cause I just read :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/l4hr5...ntext=8&depth=9
Surely this can't be true, or perhaps?

Eh? 3600? I guess that comment ain't true?

nrw says u can do stock
so try to set power limit etc all to actual stock 105w

How about 10400? 

I still remember Asus P8Z77-M can be found at RM339 and its overclockable! I miss those days with highest end chipset at affordable prices. Now both camps going nuts with the prices due to higher VRM.

Interesting, does the issue still occur if you use a lower mem speed?

Also, did you try with WASAPI output as well?

I remember he is using pcie gen 3 riser. unless he have upgrade.

Bonchi if u r on b550/x570 u can also set pcie of ur gpu to 3.0.
that can fix quite some issues you've been describing as well.

Hmm? VSOC at 1.1V? Hmmm........Bonchi, maybe you want to lower the VSOC voltage to 1.0V
https://www.tweaktownforum.com/forum/tech-s...7277#post977277

Wonder what RAM kit are you using. Can it go to 3733 or even 3800?
We need an Intel thread... maybe Intel gurus here like @cstkl can make one.