depends. Some is very a definite gap, for example 10850K vs 10900K. As for AMD.. since it's using chiplet design, they can match the identify the silicon easier and so the gap could be wider as well. Especially the X and non X variant. For example my 3600, it's already at its utmost limit when it comes to CPU performance at stock... while many couldnt even hit stock boost speeds so im glad mine can actualy reach 4.19Ghz altho it's mostly at 4.17 usually.

SSJBenLatest chipset drivers gave me "interrupt exception not handled" BSOD while listening to music. Maybe there's a bitrate channel switch or what i dont know.
But I think I'm done. Will look to sell and build another system once this PKP is over.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 12 2021, 09:45 PM

Well... maybe my expectation is abit too high? since I came from using an intel based macbook pro, which never crash before and only ever restarted for software updates even if it's running on windows 10 bootcamp... infact i think It hasnt been shut down for over 2 years now, going to 3.... It's left on standby by just closing the screen and occasionally charge once a week.... Yes, macbook pro retina battery life is a beast despite being almost 5 years old.

Thus is my expectation of a stable system..... kinda expecting a 99.9% uptime. While this ryzen is probably 90%.

It could also be something to do with the RAM despite having done 100 hours of memtest86, errors still bound to happen with OC. I have now rasied the trfc value to 800... perhaps the next owner wont be abusing the ram like me and wont face such issues... perhaps it would be stable with Samsung B-die kits instead of my micron B-dies.. but I no longer gonna bother in spending anymore money on this AMD rig.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 13 2021, 12:02 AM

version 1909. Should be the latest cuz i left auto update on. Yeah.. I have had enough of frustrations already. now not sure should I wait for rocketlake, or just whack a 10400F straight after pkp hopefully ending this 18th feb.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 13 2021, 12:40 AM

spoken too soon, it just BSOD again now with "APC index Mismatch". Looks like it's kernel related... now it's very likely to be my USB devices especially my USB DAC. or perhaps the RAM has already corrupted some of the windows files... it's CNY now and thought of wanna play some games and the problems kept coming now. WTF.

Somehow that version is not available for update as my windows update manager shows that mine is up to date. Maybe I will check around...

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 13 2021, 12:59 AM

I have changed from trying to trade, to selling it. I think I'll just grab a z490i and 10400F and think about rocketlake much later since the launch is soon but not soon. Maybe my USB DAC is running on generic drivers and AMD has a very poor memory controller, especially zen2 which affects the kernel... the last BSOD kind of 70% point to where I'm suspecting the problem is already since im doing kernel streaming and memory buffers.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 13 2021, 02:00 AM

Found and updated to 20H2 which is on another menu that i had to click to download, not at “check for updates”.

Yep the DAC im using was SMSL M3. No issues running on my macbook on both OSX and Bootcamp. Just this AMD rig that keeps on giving me surprises after every attempt to fix it.

i rather rendam dalam tasik... tak mau tergesa-gesa Agesa.

Sudah jumpa buyer, i think just whack 10400F+z490i then wait rocketlake price slash during alderlake. Luckily AMD having inflation so dont have to topup alot for brand new z490 and 10400F

but now J&T drama so waiting pkp over go lowyat plaza

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 13 2021, 03:50 PM

I think the moral of the story is, get a tridentz tier if you wanna go above 3200mhz... if it's out of budget, dont bother with it.

Now to prevent anymore memory related bsod which I suspect has caused some windows files to already been corrupted, I run at 3200mhz CL18 and trfc at 900 and also running on direct sound instead of wasapi/asio kernel streaming

fingers cross can tahan untill I drop by LYP on monday to sell the mobo + cpu and hopefully buy the intel on the spot.

wah you dare to use delivery during this time where the post workers are striking ah? alot of my friends punya parcel gone missing for weeks lately.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 14 2021, 04:54 PM

ideally you want the exact same ram sticks. So just go for the same SKU corsairs

mixing rams is a recipe for disaster with ryzen...

plenty here. And Im one of them switching back to intel.

B550.. means the problem is not zen3 exclusive.

Anyways just got back from lowyat with a 10400F and Z490i. Sadly rocketlake is not out yet but i dont wanna wait anymore.

ps: there’s alot of rtx3070, rx6800Xt but all need bundle... rtx3080 and 5000 series ryzen totally no stock even if you wanna bundle , while Ryzen 3000series limited and need full pc bundle.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 15 2021, 05:56 PM

msrp... but the revised one hahaha

nop, the shop that has the bundle for RTX3070 dont have stock for z490i.. so didnt manage to get it.

dont forget, there are people especially murica who RMA when there's no problem but the silicon is not good enough to reach their desired overclocking results.... Eventho the rma is likely be sent back to them but it will be considered as an RMA instance. Meanwhile the other statistics by powergpu for Ryzen was based on DOA, so I guess there's a difference as they are a pc builder who build and test before selling it out, and is genuinely faulty not simply RMAing because it cant OC well.

As for 10850K high RMA ... I assume it is due to users expect it will OC like a 10900K but it turns out that it doesnt so they RMA. If im not mistaken, 10900K can easily 5.2ghz at 1.26V... 10850K may need up to 1.35V if that's even possible and you can imagine the stress it puts on the VRM... there's quite a big difference between the 2.

and well... I gotta admit I also used to try my luck to rma poor overclocking cpu back in the days.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 16 2021, 02:39 PM

capitalizing all the left over good ccx dies for the higest possible margin.. the crappy ones as you know are all dumped into 3100 and 3300

i guess there were not much "left overs" to begin with... kinda like "here's a bin full of crappy dies, lets make something out of this to sell"

not just not acknowledging.. but made worse by some of their toxic fans turning it into a user problem instead, especially when it comes to RAM stick choices and various other hardware/software compatibility.