it’s not healty for the cpu. you dont want a RM 3k+ cpu to die in 2 years or maybe even 1 year right.. better invest in a better air cooler.

the worry is still there. better for him to just stick to air cooler. Even intel’s xeon 28core 4.4ghz can be cooled semi passive in a macpro, dont tell me ryzen 16core cannot cool by air

RIP cpu staying in those temps will kill the translstors one by one. Sommore if you do alot of long duration rendering tasks Im not sure how amd handle their throttling. Doesnt seem it ever attempted to protect the cpu by constantly staying on TJmax.

If you constantly use like this ... It may not even survive till the end of the year lol.

brand new aio liquid should not be conductive. nor distilled water. Ive spilled many times. Unless he go fill the loop with tap water, nothing should really happen.

but i know your worry because i have a small leak and the evaporation caused the tube to go slightly sub ambient, and a slow accumulation of condensation created a droplet and killed on of my dominator ram.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 10 2021, 10:16 AM

Your hyper 212 already on 2 fans right? Now i cant really think of any free method to reduce the temps... Maybe see if amd can disable some cores or not.

means it’s already maxed out huhu.. ok checked that ryzen master allows you to disable some cores. maybe disable like 4-6 cores first untill you get a better cooler. try to keep the proc under 85C on long loads.

Ram speed dont really matter that much, the FCLK is more important.. in fact if the fclk is too low then the overall performance will be affected.

FSB is not FCLK, mine is 1:1 to the FCLK but it shows 3:54 because the FSB is always 100Mhz.

Overclocking the FCLK depends on lottery. the 2000mhz FCLK on the zen3 is a maximum but not guaranteed. iinm 1800mhz is the guaranteed number on zen3.
plus in most cases, you may need to pump more voltage to the other voltage settings (although most bios does this automatically but very poorly) which will cause your CPU to run hotter than it already is.


you dont use prime95 to test memory, memtest86 at least overnight or 10 hours is what needed to be done... especially for 32GB as a single pass will take very long. 64GB even worse.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 10 2021, 09:25 PM

That's the problem with AMD which amd fags all refuse to admit. It's a heat generator.

The hot chipset is the reason why I opted for a B550. If you came from intel you need to get used to the constant high temps reading even on idle or standby. It's a norm... the air coming out from the back of my PC is always warm.

no choice.. cuz 64GB is just that big. You need to test every single corners to make sure... even my 32GB I let it run at night then go to sleep and next day go to work untill I come home at night... full 20 hours then only I dare to conclude that it's stable.

looks like your 4200MHz is running at 1100mhz infinity fabric that's like slower than a 2200mhz ram stick equivalent on the FCLK lol. (because iinm the IF will be 1:2)

I only know the reason why people overclock the ram on ryzen because they want to increase the IF speed. But High ram speed + low IF im not sure. Don't see anyone doing it so I guess it's bad.

The only examples of 1:2 ratio i've seen is people going beyond 5000mhz on the sticks for memory benchmarks.

most certainly, infact i think 360 is barely enough (if wanna keep the cpu under 70C have to go custom WC route with 2x 360 rad), The irony on the statement about intel being a heat generator .

It might actually be cheaper going full custom instead of aio too with taobao byski and barrow stuffs.

I have also personally re-seated my cpu cooler so many times due to disbelieve on the temps too.. using up 2 tubes of mx4 ... so you can imagine how many times i did it..

I keep repeating until i got the lowest temp recorded with my setup lol..

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 11 2021, 07:45 PM

but 3.7ghz average core clock with a 1V Vcore.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 11 2021, 08:03 PM

so need to cap to 125w on 3.7ghz all core to stay below 70C with a 360 aio?

hmm smallest fft on prime i still getting 4.2ghz on my 3600 or is that the behavior of 5900x since the ppt is much higher?

And it turns out much hotter than what im expecting haha. I intially thought 105w tdp means a 240 would be sufficient.

mine’s totally stock Ryzen 3600 with a 120mm aio reaching 76C after an hour long on P95 smallest fft. Nothing to brag about.. In fact, I feel it’s pretty disappointing.


on the side note, Im looking for trades.. preferably gigabyte z490 itx + 10100 or 10400F(i topup), for my gigabyte B550 itx + ryzen 3600.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 11 2021, 11:18 PM

do the old school way. silicon double sided tape to the back plate and stick it to the back of the mobo.

It comes off super easy without residue and is super thermal resistant.



Oh.. it's also an insulating material for electricity too, so another added protection.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 12 2021, 09:27 PM

capacitor aging is not a thing on solid caps so components that are almost entirely solid caps nowadays dont have degradation issue like mobo and gpu. Sadly the big caps in PSU are electrolytic so they will age.

little did they not known that agesa contents are totally hidden from manufacturers so technically aib doesnt matter much for amd apart from component quality. And when a version screws up, all brands will face the same issue.

it's the agesa bro... and alot of small tiny but irritating details. I swap few motherboards and few cpu and few ram and see inconsistent outcomes. welcome to the AMD experience... especially if you wanna push it beyond stock. (such as 2000Mhz IF).

You might not know but it may also be because of your CPU has poor silicon lottery etc. so changing to the best mobo wont make much difference.

sluggish uefi bios normal.. had used almost all brands in the market and I feel all are about the same. cant expect it to be super smooth especially with all the extra bloat displays. Instead of using the mouse to navigate, just use the up down arrow keys. much more efficient (and you wont feel the sluggishness anymore).

to be honest I prefer the good old bios with minimal UI.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 16 2021, 09:01 PM

if 3600, better to get 10400F but best to wait for intel’s b560 boards.

yeah.. it’s kinda slow in all bios of all brands imo and kinda expected, nowonder gaybyte didnt bother to layan him.