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edmund_yung
post Nov 6 2020, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 5 2020, 11:11 PM)
Only if you compare the 5800x with its other 5000 series brothers, then it looks a little stupid value wise. But against Intel? 5800x is good value as it outperforms even the 5900x in low thread workloads.
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Wow really like the 3300X vs 3500X!
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post Nov 6 2020, 06:33 PM

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I'll save RM300-500 by waiting till January and slap a 5600X onto a MSI B450i ITX.
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post Nov 7 2020, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Nov 7 2020, 10:36 AM)
Is Zen 3 the last CPU on AM4 socket or is there a Zen 3+ like the Ryzen 2000 series?

Currently running 3700x, don't see any reason to upgrade so soon...
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Looking at the Zen 4 / Ryzen 5000 launch schedule in the road map, I don't think there's a Zen 3+. I think the Zen 3 will be the fastest CPU you can get on AM4, unless they make Zen 4 compatible with DDR4!
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post Nov 8 2020, 02:41 PM

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Now where can I find single rank 16GB sticks? I heard only Micron have them (E-die Ballstix RAM)?

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post Nov 8 2020, 09:44 PM

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Anyone with the mentioned B450 motherboard dare to try the leaked Beta driver for early support of Ryzen 5000?
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5000-zen-3-d...-support-added/
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post Nov 9 2020, 10:13 AM

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Noted with the dual rank 16GB sticks. Planning to get the Corsair LPX 16GBx2 3600 CL18 for ITX build.
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post Nov 10 2020, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Nov 9 2020, 11:59 AM)
3) 2x32 DR (This would be the cheapest and easiest option working with the greatest number of boards (including itx))
[BL2K32G32C16U4BL, BL2K32G32C16U4RL, BL2K32G32C16U4WL, BL2K32G32C16U4R, BL2K32G32C16U4B, BL2K32G32C16U4W]
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Thanks for your detailed product numbers. These Ballistix 3200 C16 pairs are better than the Corsair LPX 3600 C18 right (CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18)? Edit: I'm looking for the 16GBx2 pair

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post Nov 10 2020, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Nov 10 2020, 12:10 PM)
The LPX you mentioned actually have a version number on the sticks indicating the IC inside but that that's no option if you if you order online.
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Thanks for the info. I'll try to find the Ballistix ram then, looks like very rare over here.
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post Nov 10 2020, 02:38 PM

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Thanks again for the info, looks like I'll have to buy oversea again.
The seller who are carrying Corsair RAM should label micron Rev E out in their listing and sell at a premium.
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post Nov 11 2020, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Nov 11 2020, 01:27 AM)
Most likely hynix
But price is cheap. Also got 2 weeks return
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Need to have defect to return it right? Can't just say I'm looking from Micron lol
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post Nov 14 2020, 10:20 AM

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I ended up getting a pair of Ballistix from member weeuweed. I managed to run it at 3200 CL14 no problem with timing from DRAM Calc with my 2700X. I don't see any difference from my FlareX CL14 kit. I don't plan to OC it yet until I upgrade my CPU next year. Thanks again nrw for the recommendation.

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post Nov 14 2020, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 12 2020, 09:19 PM)
Anyone tried the beta BIOS for B450 boards with Ryzen 5000 series CPU? 🤔
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I'm also curious too, I guess not easy to get the CPU without buying the whole bundle for our guys here.
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post Nov 20 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Nov 20 2020, 04:30 PM)
Based on asrock b450 support list of CPU... it far exceeds the list of most B550.
B450 can support ryzen 1000,2000,3000,5000 and soon announced 4000 (maybe drop 1000).
B550 only supports 3000 (zen2, zen+ don't count),5000,  and 4000 (but you can't buy the apu)
B450 is also cheaper.
There's no reason to get the B550. Retailers are going to be stuck with the B550 that has less cpu support list and they will not be able to sell them without bundling.
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I'm also hopeful my X470 will support the 5000 series. Otherwise I will also get the B450 instead of B550 to go along with 5600X, simply because I don't need PCIE 4.0 and don't plan to buy Radeon GPU.
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post Nov 23 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Nov 23 2020, 01:49 AM)
Asrock B450 board performance with ryzen 5000 series cpu.

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I'm planning to get either the Asrock or the Gigabyte ITX B450 board. I don't like Realtek AC889 on the MSI's or on the budget B550 ITX boards.

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post Nov 25 2020, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Nov 25 2020, 06:49 PM)
On paper should be slower, coz 6 cores vs 8 cores, video conversion more cores more benefit.
However I dont notice difference, didnt do A-B testing with same video file etc.
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The 5600X is like over 30% faster in multicore performance in CB20 compared to 1700X, so I think it's a complete performance upgrade even with lesser core.
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post Dec 1 2020, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Dec 1 2020, 01:33 PM)
I saw them unpacking on the first batch, definitely more than 28 units. There's ample units on the first few days itself.
There's lots of 5600 on the 2nd batch. The only shortages is ryzen. 7 & 9
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I’m still looking out for non force bundle 5600x
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Dec 4 2020, 12:00 PM)
All IT never sells seperate.. need buy full PC
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Thanks for info, I almost want to call them to buy only CPU. cry.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:58 PM

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I small try asking few shops can sell me Asrock B450 with 5600X or not, they all declined. laugh.gif
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post Dec 7 2020, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(targon @ Dec 6 2020, 11:59 PM)
Again i m not an intel fan boy but my Amd experience with a random portfolio of their cpu; 3700x (ok), 3900x (died without oc), 3950x (ok) and 5950x (unstable, possibly faulty).
intel's side past 10 years, i have only RMAed once (a 7600k).
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I don't change CPU so much like you guys do, i5-3570k was my first build after started working for comeback to PC gaming. It was great for good 4 years until BF1 stutter. I decided to quadruple the thread count by getting Ryzen 2700X from oversea. It did solve stutter issue but honestly choosing the i7-8700k could've aged better in gaming especially when OC'd to 5GHz.

I'm waiting to get 5600X because I need that single threaded performance now in MS Flight Simulator.
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post Dec 7 2020, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Dec 7 2020, 10:45 AM)
5600x should be good enough for normal gaming but if you do other than gaming.. i.e encoding etc.. go for 5900x
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Yeah, buying 5600X feels like buying i7-8700K 3 year late. LOL

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