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 Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 17,834 km blotter M1 NewLife 0W40(Tesco)

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TSzeng
post Jan 31 2018, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 6 2018, 11:02 PM)
Total Quartz 7000 Energy 10W40 SL A3B4 blend in Toyota K3VE 1.3L Multi Port Injection,
13478 km , 48 hr blotter ......

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.... and going..
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15000 km in Avanza K3VE, 24 hr blotter
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post Feb 1 2018, 10:37 AM

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Does your Avanza keep its fuel consumption rate?
TSzeng
post Feb 2 2018, 07:50 PM

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It's about 12.5 km/ Litre RON 95.
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post Feb 11 2018, 10:58 AM

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Adding something new

Mazda 6, diesel 2.2 , 10500 km , shell helix ultra fully synthetic

Taken engine cold , overnight , approx 40 minutes drying

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post Feb 11 2018, 08:45 PM

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Mind asking Mazda 6 diesel owner manual oil type recommendation ?
Asking for ACEA A3B4 ?
Helix Ultra is 5W40 ?
Btw, will wait for a 48 hr blotter spot to see how it's center zone develops ...... meanwhile this diesel engine doesn't appear very sooty, so I suppose it's age is quite new and low in mileage ?

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post Mar 1 2018, 12:38 PM

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Mileage 10200km, Honda 0w-20

Is it good to go?

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post Mar 1 2018, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 11 2018, 08:45 PM)
Mind asking Mazda 6 diesel owner manual oil type recommendation ?
Asking for ACEA A3B4 ?
Helix Ultra is 5W40 ?
Btw, will wait for a 48 hr blotter spot to see how it's center zone develops ...... meanwhile this diesel engine doesn't appear very sooty, so I suppose it's age is quite new and low in mileage ?
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Should be Acea c3

Need to just helix ultra ECT 10 w-30
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post Mar 1 2018, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 1 2018, 05:46 PM)
Should be Acea c3

Need to just helix ultra ECT 10 w-30
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Is it

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...which is VW approved Long Life oil,

or this

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...which is NOT VW approved.

Btw you have 48 hrs or current blotter spot for clearer image on center zone for evaluation ?
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post Mar 1 2018, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Mar 1 2018, 12:38 PM)
Mileage 10200km, Honda 0w-20

Is it good to go?
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Boxer07 ,I couldn't see any (clear,sharp and opaque) center zone, indicating there isn't much contaminants and oil dispersancy property is in tip top condition, hence this oil is good to go on beyond 10200 km OCI .
You may take another blotter spot test after 1500-2000 km from now, I suppose.

Note:May I ask, what engine model is this ?

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post Mar 1 2018, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 1 2018, 09:44 PM)
Boxer07 ,I couldn't see any (clear,sharp and opaque) center zone, indicating there isn't much contaminants and oil dispersancy property is in tip top condition, hence this oil is good to go on beyond 10200 km OCI .
You may take another blotter spot test after 1500-2000 km from now, I suppose.

Note:May I ask, what engine model is this ?
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Honda City 2014. GM6. Non hybrid version

wont go too far to 1500km as i still need to maintain the vehicle warranty . so will go change engine oil tomorrow at SC. laugh.gif

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post Mar 2 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 1 2018, 09:34 PM)
Is it

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...which is VW approved Long Life oil,

or this

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...which is NOT VW approved.

Btw you have 48 hrs or current blotter spot for clearer image on center zone for evaluation ?
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In Malaysia I think they launched the top one

Don't have 48 hours but I remember this is as far as it got

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post Mar 2 2018, 01:38 PM

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Sifus, can anyone recommend a cheapo fully synthetic oil, like those sold at Lazada? There are some brands I have never heard of.

I just tried the relatively cheap Lexus fully syn oil in my ride, seems much smoother than before I changed the oil.
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The Aisin 5w30 Fully Synthetic that I posted in this thread, I bought it for RM90 at a spare parts shop. Right now I'm at 11300 kms, still good.

Can't find it in Lazada, the Aisin 5w30 in Lazada is the PAO version and expensive.

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post Mar 2 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 2 2018, 08:10 AM)
In Malaysia I think they launched the top one

This Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W30 has OEM approvals in VW 50400 50700, MB 229.52 229.51 229.31 .....
that has 30,000 km OCI in Europe VW,
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Don't have 48 hours but I remember this is as far as it got
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Absence of center zone indicates clean oil with high dispersancy capability ......
I would rate its 10,500 km usage in Mazda6 2.2L diesel could be further extended.
Maybe try another blotter in 1500-2000 km from now.

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post Mar 2 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 2 2018, 02:22 PM)
This Helix Ultra ECT C2/C3 0W30 has OEM approvals in VW 50400 50700, MB 229.52 229.51 229.31 .....
that has 30,000 km OCI in Europe VW,
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Absence of center zone indicates clean oil with high dispersancy capability ......
I would rate its 10,500 km usage in Mazda6 2.2L diesel could be further extended.
Maybe try another blotter in 1500-2000 km from now.
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Covered by free service so just service according schedule


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post Mar 2 2018, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Mar 1 2018, 10:28 PM)
Honda City 2014. GM6. Non hybrid version

wont go too far to 1500km as i still need to maintain the vehicle warranty . so will go change engine oil tomorrow at SC. laugh.gif
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Yes, TGMO 0W20 is undeniably a very strong oil with good UOA results such as,
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Btw, IIRC all Honda's in USA has factory recommendation of 10,000 miles OCI whilst under warranty , that's equivalent to 16,000 km here.

I completely understand your situation with local SC on warranty matters .... on OCI's beyond 10,000 km.

I would hazard a guess your used oil condition may probably show some 'goldenish' colour and not dark black.

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post Mar 2 2018, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 2 2018, 02:41 PM)
Covered by free service so just service according schedule
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In this aspect of adhering to 10,000 km OCI for warranty purpose , one may consider the lowest priced semi-synthetic SN/SM if money is a consideration.
For most Asian engines, a Shell Helix 5 in 10W30 (or a 15W40) SN A3B3 mineral would be more than adequiate to do 10,000 km OCI , IMHO.

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post Mar 2 2018, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 2 2018, 02:49 PM)
Yes, TGMO 0W20 is undeniably a very strong oil with good UOA results such as,
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Btw, IIRC all Honda's in USA has factory recommendation of 10,000 miles OCI whilst under warranty , that's equivalent to 16,000 km here.

I completely understand your situation with local SC on warranty matters .... on OCI's beyond 10,000 km.

I would hazard a guess your used oil condition may probably show some 'goldenish' colour and not dark black.
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Yes, the used oil show goldenish... Not dark black. I guess it's still good to use till at least 12000km...
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post Mar 2 2018, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 2 2018, 01:38 PM)
Sifus, can anyone recommend a cheapo fully synthetic oil, like those sold at Lazada? There are some brands I have never heard of.

I just tried the relatively cheap Lexus fully syn oil in my ride, seems much smoother than before I changed the oil.
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Having using Lexus fullsyn (viscosity grade?) in your car now, I would suggest do some blotter spot tests (which are free anyway ..) from time to time and upload here for sharing with general readers for assessing the combined conditions of this Lexus oil AND engine condition , as a social project in Lowyat community.

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post Mar 2 2018, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Mar 2 2018, 02:16 PM)
The Aisin 5w30 Fully Synthetic that I posted in this thread, I bought it for RM90 at a spare parts shop. Right now I'm at 11300 kms, still good.

Can't find it in Lazada, the Aisin 5w30 in Lazada is the PAO version and expensive.
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Alphaz,
Will appreciate your sharing of this high mileage Aisin 5W30 blotter spot tests ....for everybody's knowledge and experience.

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