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alphaz
post Oct 20 2017, 10:43 AM

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Where you bought blotting paper?
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post Dec 19 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 15 2017, 10:47 AM)
Off Topic. But the Matrix is very underrated and misunderstood car, mostly due to how it looks. FWIW, it was designed for the European market so it feels and drives like one of that era. It is underpowered though...which means you try to maintain momentum in the corners.

Handles very good for a car of that type. I will leave it at that.
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Is it 1.8? There's a turbo kit you can buy for the G4GB engine icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 14 2018, 11:13 AM

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Aisin Fully Synthetic 5w30
Engine: Hyundai G4GB

Oil sample taken after being used for 7400 km. Picture is 12 hours after.

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Is it good for another 2500 km? I'm planning to change oil at 10k km.
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post Jan 16 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 14 2018, 11:41 PM)
Hi alphaz,
I don't see the presence of (dark coloured) centre zone (of about 8 mm diameter), which is good news as it indicates dispersancy of this Aisin 5W30 SN oil at 7400 km in Hyundai G4GB is still robust and not failing.

The grey coloured contaminants/by products is being spread out well indicating oil is performing.

There is also no signs of fuel dilution problem in this Hyundai engine.

I would speculate your intended 10,000 km OCI should not be a problem, IMHO.
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Thanks for the analysis, here's the picture taken after 48 hrs:






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post Feb 1 2018, 10:37 AM

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Does your Avanza keep its fuel consumption rate?
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post Mar 2 2018, 02:16 PM

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The Aisin 5w30 Fully Synthetic that I posted in this thread, I bought it for RM90 at a spare parts shop. Right now I'm at 11300 kms, still good.

Can't find it in Lazada, the Aisin 5w30 in Lazada is the PAO version and expensive.

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post Mar 2 2018, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 2 2018, 03:37 PM)
Alphaz,
Will appreciate your sharing of this high mileage Aisin 5W30 blotter spot tests ....for everybody's knowledge and experience.
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I had just replaced about 700ml oil from the leftover in the bottle. So if I do the test it might not be accurate, but I'll do later anyway.
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post Mar 2 2018, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Mar 2 2018, 07:58 PM)
Where is the spare part shop exactly? excellent price you got there.....
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Max Lee Tampoi. RM90 before GST.
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post Mar 4 2018, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 2 2018, 03:37 PM)
Alphaz,
Will appreciate your sharing of this high mileage Aisin 5W30 blotter spot tests ....for everybody's knowledge and experience.
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post Mar 5 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 4 2018, 11:48 PM)
Sorry to give you another boring and repetitively similar comments ......
that there is absence of center zone in this 11400 km blotter indicating high dispersancy capability of this oil sample .
Generally the other zones are not dark indicating low level of contaminants/combustion byproducts possibly due to cleaner ( Hyundai G4GB ) engine internal conditions and adequate quality of this Aisin 5W30.
If I were you, I would continue using this 11400 km oil and do another blotter spot test in 1500-2000 km and go from there.

This Aisin 5W30 , though 'unbranded' looks quite impressive so far.
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That's great, I appreciate your comment. The engine is clean because it was totally overhauled last year, after overhauled I used cheap mineral oil for 1000km, then a mineral Penzzoil for 4000km, after that I changed to this Aisin synthetic. I was planning to change this Aisin at 10000km but since it's still good, I'll extend it to 13000km.

I also never heard of Aisin before, Google said it's a Japanese company that develops and produce "engine, drivetrain, body and chassis, aftermarket, and other main automotive parts for various major OEMs", and is 30% owned by Toyota. Can't find info on where they made their engine oil though.
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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 5 2018, 02:58 PM)
If you are still having the container bottle, read the fine prints at the back, or upload picture on back of bottle, to see if it's made in Japan/Singapore/local ?
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Sorry I got rid of it sweat.gif

Here's the photo after 51 hours :

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post Mar 6 2018, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Mar 5 2018, 11:16 PM)
Sure enough , there is good news in absence of center zone indicating the oil's continuing serveceability.
However at outer most rings, there is some indication of fuel dilution ....... not sure if it's caused by sampling at cold temperatures, or having frequent short trips, or fuel injection matters though.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to keep used empty engine oil bottle ..
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When I smelled the dipstick I did notice a faint petrol smell. The engine did run a bit rough for the past week, the air filter was dirty and the gearbox switch threw a Check Engine Light. I cleaned and reoil the air filter and adjusted the gearbox switch position and fixed the error code right before I took the sample. I'll run a test again and upload the results here.
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post Mar 14 2018, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Mar 13 2018, 11:29 PM)
Emm did you guys change the oil filter say every 7-10k km in between?
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I didn't, because initially I wanted to change at 10k km. But I plan to change oil filter every 7k km in between oil change when I change to new oil (Mobil 1 FS Extended Performance 5w30)
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post Mar 30 2018, 02:16 PM

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Aisin FS 5W30 (non-PAO)
Hyundai Elantra 1.8 G4GB
Picture taken 20 hrs after.
Current mileage 13,536 km.

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post Apr 21 2018, 06:33 PM

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72 hour blot of my Aisin 5W30, Hyundai G4GB Engine.

Current oil mileage 14,990 km.

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post Apr 22 2018, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 22 2018, 03:04 PM)
This 14990 km blotter spot doesn't show up any sign of centre ring or centre zone, indicating detergency and dispersancy capability of the oil is still intact like new, and hence continuing serviceability.

The outer zone is not grey or dark coloured , indicating there is minimal contaminants or 'rubbish' within the oil.

I'm really impressed with the performance of this Aisin 5W30 oil in your Hyundai engine and I would personnally further extend the OCI beyond this mileage .
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Thank you Zeng for the comment. Quite surprised this oil hold up quite well, I actually plan to change at 16,000 km as it's been almost 7 months of usage. I've never kept oil for this long and for this many km's before.
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post Apr 23 2018, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 22 2018, 11:55 PM)
Btw, do you use solely Euro 4 RON 97 petrol ?
..... as my combination of Avanza 1.3/Total Quartz 7000 Energy 10W40 was solely on BHP RON 95 supposedly Euro 2.
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Only RON 95, mostly Petron, sometimes Caltex and BHP, very rarely Petronas, only once Shell.
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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 25 2018, 09:48 PM)
Euro 4 RON 97 here has below 50 ppm sulphur,which is supposed to be 'less' damaging to engine oil life in relation to a typical Euro 2 petrol at 500 ppm sulphur.
I beliveve RON 95 BHP  from a refinery in Singapore are of less than 150 ppm sulphur.
That same Singapore refinery also supplies to Caltex here, I wouldn't be surprised if its sulphur could be low too though I have no facts to support the statements.
Maybe some one can comment if Petron petrol comes from refineries in Singapore.

Not sure if the 150 ppm sulphur in your BHP helps in your blotter spot 'cleanliness' , other than efficacy of Aisin engine oil and engine mechanical conditions.
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Petron comes from their refinery in Port Dickson. It was originally Esso/Mobil before San Miguel bought and rebrand to Petron. Esso/Mobil fuel supposedly had the lowest sulphur content (can't confirm, just hearsay).


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post Sep 12 2018, 12:47 PM

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24hr blot

Shell Helix Ultra Full Synthetic 5w30 (Made in Hong Kong)
Elantra 2002 1.8
Oil mileage 10,006 km

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post Nov 11 2018, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 9 2018, 12:46 PM)
Good blotter spot test at 10060 km, no sign of centre zone perimeter ring indicating good detergency/dispersancy properties close to as new.
No dark grey dirt/contaminants in centre and intermediate zones,  indicating contaminant levels not very high at this high mileage.
No indication of fuels in outermost perimeter zone.
Engine appears to be in tip top conditions and well maintained.
This oil is still serviceable and could probably go for another 2000 - 4000 km and test.
Did you go on ?

Edit: Apologies for late response, alphaz.
Edit2: I personally consider this 10060 km SHU 5W30 blotter spot as performing relatively better than Honda 0W30 at 3750 km above.
Not trying to bash Honda 0W30 though.
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Thank you zeng for your comments. I'm almost 14,000km on this EO now, I will do another test soon. This EO seems to be very good, it's a bit expensive at RM160 per 4L though. That's almost twice the price of SHU 5W40 one.

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