Engine : K20A
Oil : Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 5W-30 with Ceratec additive
Mileage : 11k +
Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 16,286 km blotter Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
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Dec 19 2017, 03:14 PM
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Dec 19 2017, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 15 2017, 10:47 AM) Off Topic. But the Matrix is very underrated and misunderstood car, mostly due to how it looks. FWIW, it was designed for the European market so it feels and drives like one of that era. It is underpowered though...which means you try to maintain momentum in the corners. Is it 1.8? There's a turbo kit you can buy for the G4GB engine Handles very good for a car of that type. I will leave it at that. |
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Dec 19 2017, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 19 2017, 03:14 PM) I tried the test, not really sure how to interpret it Thanks for upload.Engine : K20A Oil : Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 5W-30 with Ceratec additive Mileage : 11k + Though the image is blur'ish, it looks like to me there is no signs of presence of centre zone (oil drop size of about 6-8 mm diameter) and absence of greying/darkish coloured patches (meaning insolubles, oxidation contaminants, combustion byproducts etc), which is good news. Can you upload a clearer image preferably 48/72 hours after drop to confirm presence/absence of centre zone and greyish/darkish patches inside and outside of centre zone ? |
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Dec 20 2017, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Dec 19 2017, 11:06 PM) Thanks for upload. All image is >72 hours Though the image is blur'ish, it looks like to me there is no signs of presence of centre zone (oil drop size of about 6-8 mm diameter) and absence of greying/darkish coloured patches (meaning insolubles, oxidation contaminants, combustion byproducts etc), which is good news. Can you upload a clearer image preferably 48/72 hours after drop to confirm presence/absence of centre zone and greyish/darkish patches inside and outside of centre zone ? Lighting and camera not so good, but below is how it looks from further away. Above single blot from a different engine, with what i can only assume is newer oil, not sure the mileage or oil used. Bottom two blot from the same engine as previously. |
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Dec 21 2017, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 20 2017, 02:14 PM) All image is >72 hoursĀ Lighting and camera not so good, but below is how it looks from further away. Above single blot from a different engine, with what i can only assume is newer oil, not sure the mileage or oil used. Bottom two blot from the same engine as previously. 72 hr 11k+ Blotter Unitron, I am of the opinion that this 11k+ Blotter shows absence of centre zone (of about 6-8 mm diameter) ...... and this is good news that oil detergency and dispersancy is still in tip top capacity without extensive agglomeration of oxidative/combustion products etc. There is very mild 'greyish' patch indicating 'low' levels of oxidative/combustion products and insolubles. I believe this used oil is still serviceable and would recommend taking another blotter spot in 1500-2000 km, if you haven't replaced the oil. JMHO. This post has been edited by zeng: Dec 21 2017, 12:17 AM |
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Dec 21 2017, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Dec 21 2017, 12:13 AM) Unitron, I am of the opinion that this 11k+ Blotter shows absence of centre zone (of about 6-8 mm diameter) ...... and this is good news that oil detergency and dispersancy is still in tip top capacity without extensive agglomeration of oxidative/combustion products etc. Thanks sifu @zeng There is very mild 'greyish' patch indicating 'low' levels of oxidative/combustion products and insolubles. I believe this used oil is still serviceable and would recommend taking another blotter spot in 1500-2000 km, if you haven't replaced the oil. JMHO. Too bad i didn't wanna risk it too long since already >1 year since last oil change, I changed the oil already. Trying out Castrol Magnatec Stop-Start fully syn 5W-30 |
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Dec 22 2017, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(unitron @ Dec 21 2017, 11:25 AM) Thanks sifu @zengĀ Too bad i didn't wanna risk it too long since already >1 year since last oil change, I changed the oil already. Trying out Castrol Magnatec Stop-Start fully syn 5W-30 This spec of Magnatec Stop-Start fullsyn 5W30 of SN A3B4 is stronger than the previous Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 5W-30, in a way. I believe it can easily deliver longer OCI than 11k+ km in this K20A of yours. This post has been edited by zeng: Dec 22 2017, 04:09 PM |
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Dec 22 2017, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Dec 22 2017, 04:07 PM) This spec of Magnatec Stop-Start fullsyn 5W30 of SN A3B4 is stronger than the previous Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 5W-30, in a way. I believe it can easily deliver longer OCI than 11k+ km in this K20A of yours. CMIIW though. |
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Dec 22 2017, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 22 2017, 05:54 PM) What is the TBN value? Longer OCI usually is also dependent on TBN value. For example oils that claim can last for longer mileage (>15k km, some even >20k km) usually have TBN value >10 or even >11, such as Amsoil or Mobil 1. Agree with your statement above generally.CMIIW though. The A3B4 has a minimum TBN of 10. Whereas a SN GF5 has TBN from 7.x to 9.x generally , though strong additive package SN GF5 may have TBN of 10 and above. Without TBN values from their respective spec sheets, I would speculate Magnatec Stop-Start 5W30 A3B4 most likely has higher TBN with its stronger additive package. Hence my belief Castrol can last longer, IDK. |
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Jan 6 2018, 11:02 PM
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Jan 14 2018, 11:13 AM
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Jan 14 2018, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jan 14 2018, 11:13 AM) Aisin Fully Synthetic 5w30 Hi alphaz,Engine: Hyundai G4GB Oil sample taken after being used for 7400 km. Picture is 12 hours after. Is it good for another 2500 km? I'm planning to change oil at 10k km. I don't see the presence of (dark coloured) centre zone (of about 8 mm diameter), which is good news as it indicates dispersancy of this Aisin 5W30 SN oil at 7400 km in Hyundai G4GB is still robust and not failing. The grey coloured contaminants/by products is being spread out well indicating oil is performing. There is also no signs of fuel dilution problem in this Hyundai engine. I would speculate your intended 10,000 km OCI should not be a problem, IMHO. This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 14 2018, 11:44 PM |
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Jan 16 2018, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 14 2018, 11:41 PM) Hi alphaz, Thanks for the analysis, here's the picture taken after 48 hrs:I don't see the presence of (dark coloured) centre zone (of about 8 mm diameter), which is good news as it indicates dispersancy of this Aisin 5W30 SN oil at 7400 km in Hyundai G4GB is still robust and not failing. The grey coloured contaminants/by products is being spread out well indicating oil is performing. There is also no signs of fuel dilution problem in this Hyundai engine. I would speculate your intended 10,000 km OCI should not be a problem, IMHO. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jan 17 2018, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jan 16 2018, 02:22 PM) Thanks for the analysis, here's the picture taken after 48 hrs: https://forum.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-31/...-1516083762.jpg This 48 hr Blotter confirms the absence of clear opaque centre zone, which is good news to you. Carry on using this oil sample , if you so wish. This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 17 2018, 02:27 PM |
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Jan 31 2018, 11:54 PM
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Feb 1 2018, 10:37 AM
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Does your Avanza keep its fuel consumption rate?
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Feb 2 2018, 07:50 PM
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It's about 12.5 km/ Litre RON 95.
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Feb 11 2018, 10:58 AM
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Feb 11 2018, 08:45 PM
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Mind asking Mazda 6 diesel owner manual oil type recommendation ?
Asking for ACEA A3B4 ? Helix Ultra is 5W40 ? Btw, will wait for a 48 hr blotter spot to see how it's center zone develops ...... meanwhile this diesel engine doesn't appear very sooty, so I suppose it's age is quite new and low in mileage ? This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 11 2018, 08:47 PM |
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Mar 1 2018, 12:38 PM
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