signboard,
True.. but iPod isn't iPhone... What's the main purpose for your purchase? To use it as a Phone or an MP3 player? If it's the latter, get the iPod, if it's the former get the iPhone - except take tishaban's advise and wait till Apple fixes all their bugs on the 1G iPhones

i'm gonna use all its functions. lolz. wi-fi surfing, phone, ipod.

maybe its wise to wait first as tishaban said. another thing we dunno is whether which telco will win the bids to be the operator.

signboard,
Perhaps it'll be an open phone for the Asian market? And if u want to use everything, then just get the iPhone ... and until it comes out, no need to talk about it lor

having said that iPhone will most definitely be full of bugs is just bias.

ezinger,
I never said iPhone be full of bugs - in fact, nothing in life is ever bug-free if u asked me

count me known viruses for os x then just to prove your point [:

in fact, i never imply my statement at you [:

ezinger,
When I've the time I'll look it up and list `em down... Besides, virus is just one of the disadvantages - i'm sure there are more

But for now, what about cockroaches, ladybird, ants, etc.

Maybe I should list the well known Apple problems before:

- Macbook staining (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- iBook logic board issues (1st gen issue, fixed in iBook G4)
- iMac G5 overheating issues (1st gen issue, fixed later)
- Powermac G5 power supply problems
- Powerbook display problems

All manufacturers today have some sort of issues with first generation products. It's how the manufacturer responds to that problem that separates the good from the nasty. I've no problems with Apple US before. I honestly have not had to do so with Apple Malaysia so far so no comments.

*kEKkekeKEKek* Got sifu oredi..... so, who's gonna help me list out the uh, known viruses for Macs, if any?

all of the above has no relations with software issues. were in the topic of mobile phones and YET all of the above has no relations with any mobile phone issues or defectiveness. try harder [:

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Added on February 23, 2007, 3:34 pmhahaha list? one is enough [:

This post has been edited by ezinger: Feb 23 2007, 03:34 PM

ezinger,
A bit like how do you expect us to list defects of Apple manufactured phones when history states they never produced one before?

Er... my above answer cannot meh? Er.. what about flies then?

Come now hardware bugs are bugs too. And no, Apple is not immune to software/OS bugs either. iTunes on OSX alone has had plenty of bugs, from people losing their playlists to people being connected to the ITMS in the wrong country.

Don't defend Apple too hard dude, tinkerbel calls that fanboyism Apple makes mistakes too.

Me?! Er.. I learnt the term fanboyism from LYN.... but ah well, i'm not biased towards Apple

didnt u guys already made an assumption about something that is not even released?

now your comparing something irrelevant to mobile phones...are we still talking about mobile phones or what?

edit: and i dont need your prejudism :]

This post has been edited by ezinger: Feb 24 2007, 12:03 AM

ezinger,
Oops... But nothing's perfect mah....

No need to argue with fanboyism Let him/her wins lo..

Btw, IINM older version of mac os is quite unstable and have few crashes untill mac osx. I know i ever read some articles before. (i lazy to argue with fanboy google the facts out )

OS(Operating System) is made by programmers(human), and human do make mistakes. There is no "perfect" OS/softwares in this real world.

@ezinger, get a "real" life

This post has been edited by allvin: Feb 24 2007, 12:58 AM

now lets compare the human race with iPhone :]

guys you really have a sad excuse for a rebuttle; fanboyism? c'mon...

prejudism wins? hell iv even installed linux on my ipod and you guys call me a pro mac? i could call myself a telnet fanboy tho because of its superiority to any other..but im just not that bias..unless proven wrong :]

i dont understand why from iPhone, to mac hardware defects and to the human race. were all screwed :[

nothing is perfect is pretty subtle tho. isnt there any existing individual that has never encounter any problems with their electronic device?

whatever it is, there's no need to speculate. we will only know once the device is out and feedback from the market review. best part we dont have to worry so badly since it will only be available in asia in 2008 or near 2009.
to get an ipod before iphone it's subjective to individuals. as for myself i dont mind getting both. i prefer to have my phone to be able to play mp3 and video, so far even WM5 / ppc 2003 / symbian could not satisfy me for various reasons such as screen size, lousy earphones. i think iphone is good for all-in-one device but then again ipod 80gig could serve better purpose as bootable hdd on mac and also as external hdd.
so to get ipod or iphone for music player or not and just stay with ipod blablabla will be a forever a delima. thx to apple to make things so 'easy' for us. anyway.. at the end of the day, u must be happy with what u spend on. i'm happy with macbook c2d black that i recently bought altou i almost get the macbookpro 17".

**mouth zipped**

Ok Ok... I'm gonna keep me comments to meself since I'm not too prone to using an iPod

on account, i would obvoiusly agree on this [:

hell i dont really bother about its AIO functions and features of the iPhone because i already have any other gadgets. in my pov, i see iPhone more of a phone than anything else. i already have a almost high end symbian which doesnt even impress me much but symbian has to be the worst mobile os and i dont have to compare it with windows mobile matter of fact. dont we all know apple is always focused on the less dork side :]