Actually don't needed to watch Astro First..
Can get it online & its uncensored too
That's why many don't subscribed to min package only..

You forget one most important things.

Majority of astro customer want to watch with their family. And, one most important things is BM sub. Just like Oh!K HD when it start to showing express from Korea drama. There is no BM sub at all. Just have ENGLISH sub.

Many already BOMB astro FB page to include BM sub. And, after that happen. Finally, astro has put the BM sub for express from Korea drama.

Of course, no surprise as Korean fans in Malaysia is big. And, the demand for it is higher than English drama.

Bye bye J welcome K

Japan entertainment is dead

Korean all the way😄😄😄👍👍👍

I'm okay with Korean hype.
But, me still cannot accept the "fact" for astro to not bring in Japan entertainment channel.

If we got YouTube TV here. And, it include big major Asia Pay TV like CN, Disney.
And also regional Pay TV like AXN, Animax & GEM in YouTube TV. I don't mind to fully terminate astro.

What's more? We can choose which resolution we want to watch. YouTube app is not like lousy Astro GO. No pixelated picture for SD & HD video..

Too bad, only available in US country for now.

And also, some Astro so-call premium channel is now available FREE TO WATCH in YouTube app. The channel like Sky News HD is there & no delay at all.
Maybe, about time Sky News HD in astro to be cease broadcast. No one will watch astro potong news channel...

This post has been edited by Anime in HD: Sep 3 2017, 12:02 PM

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This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Sep 3 2017, 12:24 PM

Where is the announcement for technical fee increase to RM65? Scam?

time to #portoutastro

To some IPTV providers in garage sale

Ahh yes.. Watch with kids gonna be issues if uncensored.. Didn't think about that aspects

Including BM subtitled?? Hello... English don't understand kah!? Its worldwide language.. No wonder the JB hospital thingy became issues.. Miscommunication of the singki & Malai staff.. Thanks to lack of English skills

Don't say english not understand. Even, some Astro english channel not provide ENGLISH sub. Despite the original channel feed provide english sub. Original source from like Measat 3 C band, Telstar 18 etc.

I still remember back then, Astro not provide BM sub for express from Japan anime for Animax channel. Around last year, i see all Same Day as Japan title in Animax now have BM sub.

And yeah, english channel in Astro only provide BM & Chinese sub. Where Tamil sub? Indian people only watch astro english channel with BM sub?

Hmm maybe its extra work for having English subtitles for English channels

Well like u said, many people complained no BM subtitles on astro page.. Utamakan Bahasa Kebangsaan

Tamil subtitles not important... Because many Indian don't know how to read it how I know?? Because many Indian friends same case So English & BM is good to go...

Original feeds for most of English paid/subscription channels do not offer English subtitles, including the ones at Measat 3/3a C band. I know cuz I manage to find it out, by opening Powervu channels on Measat C band. However, non-English language channels that shows Korean and Japan programmes like One HD and Gem HD, do have English subs.

You won't see Indian language subs is because India has their own Indian feed or South Asia feed instead of Asia feed for paid English language channels. Therefore, you will see English subtitles available, as well as many other Indian language subs like Tamil, Hindi, and many more on selected channels. You shall know this if you tried Videocon d2h.

Sometime, i think why we need Astro, Transvision etc, to provide foreign channels. When we all have Measat & other satelite to provide original Pay TV to all South East Asia & South Asia country?

These satelite, also can make their own Pay TV company, right? The channel itself is not downgrade video bitrate & maintain the video originality.

Maybe, the con is Measat use C band & not Ku band like Astro etc. Or our gomen don't want consumer to access all good & bad channel.

Hahahaha so near my place that happening

Not a problem. I actually don't get "too serious" about any remarks made by anyone... its just my quickfire reaction to what I know now is just a confusion and misunderstanding on my part. My bad. I believe both of us don't have any hard feelings here, hehe.

The reason I misunderstood you, was when you mentioned the splitter which allows us to strip/bypass HDCP which made me think that you do already know quite a lot on HDCP. So, when you said "Ahhh I see... Now I know.", I assumed that you were being cheeky because you already know before, not just "know now". Anyway, all is clear now.

I quote your reply here ... "it's just that since you guys discussing about HDCP". Hehehe... actually this discussion on HDCP was not started by anyone here. You quoted Sonypshomer and Yongtjunkit and replied to them by explaining about the "blank issue" in Assteruk decoder caused by HDCP.

Because it was you who started the "HDCP discussion" first, I then replied with my further explanation on the HDCP behaviour in the Assteruk decoder. Actually you did not change the topic... hehe... both of us were going in different directions. You started with reply about HDCP in the decoder and continued with the splitter to bypass HDCP... and I was still concentrating on the Assteruk flicker issue caused by HDCP which can't be changed.

In my first reply on HDCP in the Assteruk decoder, I tried to avoid mentioning more about how to strip or bypass HDCP because I wanted to avoid going into matters which may be viewed as *pira@@*. I repeat, that's why I wrote previously... "... HDCP have been "cracked" ... yes, but obviously its not right for me to discuss it further here." Yes, I do believe there are people here who do know how to do it. Both you and Sonypshomer posted about the splitter and obviously know this. Me too. And since the splitter have been mentioned, I then decided to mention about the HDFury 3 which even support stripping HDCP 2.0 (for HD) and HDCP 2.2 (for 4K HD).

For people who just want to watch *ah-hem* videos, I also know that stripping HDCP off to allow recording is not a sensible way to do it because we do have other alternatives such as "downloads" and "online streaming sites", etc which are less time-consuming (recording takes the same time as video length) and simpler to do. Again, I don't want to go further into this... you know why.

Yes, the short flicker "blank" when changing from SD to HD channel is not a problem for most people... the cause from HDCP is merely to explain why this happens.

When I am wrong in anything, I will definitely admit it. Sorry for assuming wrongly about you being cheeky.

Its actually a bit refreshing to deviate a bit away from only discussing Assteruk here.

Hehehe... there's one joker here (L.L.H) who often talks rubbish and use assumptions to make it look like true facts ! Ya, sometimes he does post facts... but many other times... you know lah. People here who are new in this Astro Byond group may wrongly believe him.

Regards.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Sep 4 2017, 12:29 AM

Does hdcp handshake speed varies by tv and hdmi cable?

Those pay TV channels you see from various satellites like Measat and Asiasat, are not meant for us to watch "illegally for free", you know? It is the source for pay TV providers to get the channel, to be offered to the customers.

Why it is possible for us to open Powervu channels from Measat, and some other satellites, is because the Powervu encryption itself has been compromised, hence enabling newer consumer-level satellite receivers able to decrypt/open Powervu channels and watch it like a normal TV channel, for free, as long the Powervu keys are entered correctly. So far, this 2 leading encryption systems used by broadcasters, Powervu and Tandberg (aka "Director") has been compromised, and you can say that it is because this 2 encryption doesn't use smart card to decrypt channels, resulting an easier way for the professional crackers to crack open the channels.

Those widely used ones like Irdeto, Videoguard, Conax, etc. requires smart card to decrypt (just like Astro) in the proper way. For example, Irdeto are commonly used by Fox Networks Group channels such as National Geographic, Star World, Fox Movies, etc.
Unless you got the access to the smart card that needed to open those original feed channels such as from C band satellites, which only pay TV providers has it, there's no way you can watch it on your own. How about card sharing (cline)? The owner still need to have the smart card (that only pay TV providers and broadcasters have) to decrypt the channels. So still, you can't watch it.

It is a common thing for pay TV all around the world to somewhat lower the bitrate till the point they prefer, before deliver the channels to customers. The bitrate they chose, are depending on the capability for them to deliver the channels to customers. E.g. If their satellite transponders bandwidth are limited, they need to lower the bitrate a little bit to make sure it has enough room to accommodate other or new channels in the future. There are technical things that is scarce or limited for them, and we as customers, we don't know what is it. And sometimes, high in bitrate may make some of the technical things inefficient. That's why pay TV won't offer 100% original video quality from source, but they'll make sure majority of the customers are satisfied with the HD picture quality by not lower the quality too much.

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Why Malaysia is one of the countries in the world that ban the private use of parabolic dishes? Why our very good gov try to restrict people of the alternative ways to watch TV content? Because if they made parabolic dishes legal, we can freely watch TV channels from other satellites that we like to aim at, meanwhile our gov cannot control what we're able to watch from other satellites which is "out of their control/league", our gov is "afraid" that if many people watch TV from C band, no much ppl will subscribe to Astro to watch nice programmes already lo.

So, they can make sure all (if not, almost all) of the people will go to the "proper" way to watch good TV channels in the country, and that is..... subscribe to pay TV services like Astro. Of course, this context may not be effective today, because we can get lots of alternative content from Internet. Despite Internet, Astro still earn a lot of money.

In the news, gov will say those ridiculous statements (especially Utusan Malaysia) of watching TV through parabolic dishes, the TV content are not censored and contains pornography, hence causes negative impacts to Malaysians. FYI, you won't see pornography channels via satellite, and if you do, it is encrypted and it won't be made free-to-air. As for censorship, different country has different censorship rules and regulations. And how is our Malaysian censorship board look like? Take HBO Malaysia and HBO Asia as the reference, which we already discussed about it previously. So how can they simply compare censorship implied by other countries with our country, like comparing apple and apple? To scare off Malaysians, parabolic dishes are made illegal and...

As far as I know, they can seize your equipment because you install parabolic dish with the excuse that these non-compliant equipment are not approved by MCMC or SIRIM (unless it is supplied by Astro). So, there are no "proper, explicit law" that ban the private use of parabolic dishes in Malaysia. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But then if you wonder, why Sarawak is somewhat, the only state in Malaysia where parabolic dishes are "legal"? Sarawakians can enjoy unofficial freedom to install parabolic dishes as they please, and since many Sarawak people are poor and many of them not willing to pay Astro every month, you can say that they put Sarawak an "unofficial exception" to this case, and also some other political reasons. So in that case, our gov won't put Sarawak as the "main source" of income for Astro already lor...

In conclusion, it is believed that our gov may be investing "some money" to Astro, where if Astro earn lots of money, some of the profits may go to the gov's pocket. So yeah, you can say that the money you pay monthly to Astro, some of the portion may go in to our Jibby's wallet. To maximise profits, gov ban private use of parabolic dishes, so that ppl gt no choice but to subscribe Astro to watch nice channels (in a legal way for the country), and then make them the only DTH provider in Malaysia (monopoly), and gov won't kacau Astro on how Astro treat customers by increasing package prices while giving lots of excuses, and also poor customer service but then, Astro excels in billing (if you know what I mean). So, this is called, crony.


Hope my explanation helps you to understand more on what's happening in the pay TV market in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Sep 4 2017, 03:41 PM

HDCP is all about hardware stuff, not cable.
Hmmm... I would say, pretty much the same.... Or maybe newer devices are faster, I'm not sure.

It's just a blank screen for few hundred milliseconds. What does that bother you so much lol

I believe what Joshhd replied to you is correct. I believe any difference in the delay caused by the HDCP verification is merely in milliseconds only. As example... you won't notice the difference between 0.001 second to 0.009 second.

Even IF your TV delay is 1.0 second, changing to any other TV should get a difference of milliseconds only... example, the other TV delay is shorter at 0.995 second so the difference is merely 0.005 second which you won't notice. Hehe... I don't think you will buy any TV just because it has the shortest HDCP delay as there are other much more important factors such as colour, brightness, etc.

The HDMI High Speed (and High Speed with Ethernet, 1.3 and above) cable already carry signals at super fast speed for short lengths (such as 2 to 5 metres). Of course, normally you won't be using 100 metre HDMI cable loh. The cable is just like a highway which allows maximum speed limit of 150 km/hr and the car can only speed up to maximum 130 km/hr.

Your single question don't tell me the reason why you want to know the answer. Maybe you are just curious. But IF you have a serious long delay of blank screen such as more than 2 seconds, then the issue should NOT be caused by the HDCP handshake so try to find out other reasons such as loose cable connection, faulty cable, TV HDMI board faulty, HDMI connection pin oxidation causing poor contact, faulty decoder, etc etc.