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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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post May 8 2022, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 27 2022, 04:36 PM)
Robertson and D'Sara Sentral. Not totally failed but subsale price 40% below SPA price. Room partitioning and airbnb also not enough to cover installment.

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can share robertson where can buy 40% below spa price?
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post May 9 2022, 01:10 PM

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Just updating the numbers

Year - number of overhang residential units
2017 - 24k units
2018 - 32k units
2019 - 48k units
2020 - 57k units
2021 - 64k units (184k total unsold)
2022 - still waiting for data

More supplies to come!

Source:
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...that-never-pops

"despite the massive amount of overhang that we see in the service apartments and Soho segments, developers remained optimistic to build even more of them and future supply is expected to be more than the current inventory"

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post May 9 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ May 9 2022, 01:10 PM)
Just updating the numbers

Year - number of overhang residential units
2017 - 24k units
2018 - 32k units
2019 - 48k units
2020 - 57k units
2021 - 64k units (184k total unsold)
2022 - still waiting for data

More supplies to come!

Source:
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...that-never-pops

"despite the massive amount of overhang that we see in the service apartments and Soho segments, developers remained optimistic to build even more of them and future supply is expected to be more than the current inventory"

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Many flippers still delusional to think the price will only keep going up.

Let's see what happens when we enter recession.
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post May 9 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ May 9 2022, 01:10 PM)
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Future supply against stock of high rise in % is the scary part.

until overhang is reduced substantially, price will remain suppressed.

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 9 2022, 01:29 PM)
Many flippers still delusional to think the price will only keep going up.

Let's see what happens when we enter recession.
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Already dropping since 2014-2016. Maybe they just didnt study enough and got duped by "gurus"

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post May 16 2022, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 17 2022, 02:43 PM)
Another lelong unit sold yesterday.
B-10-07, single bidder won unchallenged at 635K.
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Hi Auction God AskarPerang biggrin.gif, I'd like to know please if the 83, Jalan Terasek 7, Bangsar, corner / end DST auction was sold? Nice garden and prime2 location facing park. Can't even find any for sale on Mudah. Seems slightly under market at something under 2 mil? Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 16 2022, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(xianw @ May 16 2022, 01:16 AM)
Hi Auction God  AskarPerang biggrin.gif, I'd like to know please if the 83, Jalan Terasek 7, Bangsar, corner / end DST auction was sold? Nice garden and prime2 location facing park. Can't even find any for sale on Mudah. Seems slightly under market at something under 2 mil? Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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The unit was called off last month.
Reserve price was at 1.89M.
Owner managed to save the unit from being auctioned off.
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post May 16 2022, 02:18 AM

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what are some risks of auction housing?
got risk like paying 20% downpayment? thats what i knew only
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post May 16 2022, 08:24 AM

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what are some risks of auction housing?
got risk like paying 20% downpayment? thats what i knew only
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There are risk u may find a dead body inside tongue.gif
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post May 16 2022, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ May 9 2022, 01:10 PM)
Just updating the numbers

Year - number of overhang residential units
2017 - 24k units
2018 - 32k units
2019 - 48k units
2020 - 57k units
2021 - 64k units (184k total unsold)
2022 - still waiting for data

More supplies to come!

Source:
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...that-never-pops

"despite the massive amount of overhang that we see in the service apartments and Soho segments, developers remained optimistic to build even more of them and future supply is expected to be more than the current inventory"

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Thanks for sharing, but the article is behind a paywall. Any chance of posting the full article text here please?
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post May 18 2022, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 18 2022, 07:56 PM)
Lelong unit sold below 300K today.
Size: 586sqft (studio)

Sold at 261K.
Single bidder won unchallenged.
Good catch.  thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 18 2022, 08:17 PM)
Lelong unit sold today.
Title issued but perfection not done.
Developer already bankrupt.
Outstanding owed 200k (not covered by the bank).

3 bidders fight from 273K.
Sold at 306K.
Good catch?
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post May 18 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 16 2022, 02:18 AM)
what are some risks of auction housing?
got risk like paying 20% downpayment? thats what i knew only
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It’s 10% downpayment, burn if you can’t settle your loan disbursement within 90 or 120 days (depends on the terms in POS).

Main risk is still previous owner refuse to move out or sabo the property before moving out. Hence, always go for either vacant or tenanted unit (not owner stay).
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QUOTE(scorptim @ May 18 2022, 09:41 PM)
It’s 10% downpayment, burn if you can’t settle your loan disbursement within 90 or 120 days (depends on the terms in POS).

Main risk is still previous owner refuse to move out or sabo the property before moving out. Hence, always go for either vacant or tenanted unit (not owner stay).
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so normally bankers are not willing to accept lelong offer?
if owner refuse to move out have to sue them as well using own money?
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post May 18 2022, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 18 2022, 09:53 PM)
so normally bankers are not willing to accept lelong offer?
if owner refuse to move out have to sue them as well using own money?
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Bankers will give you the loan as long as you are eligible but the thing about lelong properties is that you need to sort out all the paperwork and red tape completely e.g. settle all land office, maintenance fees, any unpaid taxes etc which usually you can claim bank from the auctioning bank first then the bank will disburse your funds. It’s a lot more work to be done compared to buying normal new or subsale properties.

If prev owner refuse to move out then you need to take legal action using own money to evict them and your loan repayment starts from the month the loan is disbursed so you gotta pay loan for a place you can’t live in yet plus whatever legal fees.
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QUOTE(scorptim @ May 18 2022, 10:05 PM)
Bankers will give you the loan as long as you are eligible but the thing about lelong properties is that you need to sort out all the paperwork and red tape completely e.g. settle all land office, maintenance fees, any unpaid taxes etc which usually you can claim bank from the auctioning bank first then the bank will disburse your funds. It’s a lot more work to be done compared to buying normal new or subsale properties.

If prev owner refuse to move out then you need to take legal action using own money to evict them and your loan repayment starts from the month the loan is disbursed so you gotta pay loan for a place you can’t live in yet plus whatever legal fees.
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gamble for a far lower price property la
no wonder its rich people game
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post May 18 2022, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 18 2022, 10:36 PM)
gamble for a far lower price property la
no wonder its rich people game
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Rich and not rich also can play but if you not rich then put in more effort to stalk the property properly la. Personally I would recommend going for tenanted properties as it is so easy to strike a deal with the tenant when they know their owner house is about to kena auction and whenever I find a tenanted unit it’s almost as if you’re buying a normal subsale unit where you can go in and view the whole unit entirely first before going for the auction.

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post May 22 2022, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(-H20- @ May 22 2022, 07:23 PM)
Malehsian are poorer than most expected.
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QUOTE(anson@ryan @ May 24 2022, 09:25 AM)
Latest update from https://napic.jpph.gov.my/portal What can we get from these statistics?  confused.gif 

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post May 29 2022, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 9 2022, 01:38 PM)
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Future supply against stock of high rise in % is the scary part.

until overhang is reduced substantially, price will remain suppressed.
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Looks like the market will be stagnant for a really long time.

Huge increase of supply incoming, property overhang to get worse and worse, especially for the high rise.

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