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michaelchang
post Aug 29 2018, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 28 2018, 04:20 PM)
Boulevard Service Apartment, Jalan Kuching.
Just newly completed less than a year ago.

Got undetected lelong unit actually. Due to the name. Thought is shoplot.
Went under the radar.
Anyway sold at almost half of S&P price.



Sold at Reserve Price 328k today. S&P price 650k.
Single bidder. What a great catch.

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Wow! This is a very good catch! confirmed positive cash flow if rented out
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post Sep 28 2018, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 28 2018, 08:31 AM)
Parents also play a part. They will tell their children to BBB blindly, citing the ever increasing price of property but they never really check if the area is worth buying. End up buying props in such areas where developers cleverly  marketed themselves as being premium in an out skirt location. I clearly remember my Rawang friend telling me off that it's only 'you' KL people that are buying those overpriced DS there. He asked me how many 'local' Rawang residents can afford a Rm800k DS. If they could afford Rm800k, they would have moved to KL or PJ and bought landed there. Now it's like the other way round. Just because developer marketed their products cleverly, people are moving to the outskirts but buying at 'city' prices.
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Spot on!

This is the problem now, outskirt development selling at sky high prices.

12 years ago, I bought Rawang corner terrace at only RM$120K, now MS wants to sell $500-600K???

must wait 20 years, just to break even?
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post Dec 12 2018, 04:08 PM

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Leasehold has many problems when transfer of ownership,( inheritance from my sister) took almost 3 years to transfer.. many red tape at government agency due to some land restriction ( I'm guessing similar to N9 restriction now)

paid a lot on Lawyer fees (almost 3x normal tranfer fee) for the tranfer due to complications of transfer.
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post Apr 10 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 10 2019, 11:39 AM)

Both unit no taker yet again. This gonna be lelong record soon. Launching pirce 500k++.
Here you can check back this post as proof: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89879321

Now 200k also not sure anybody want or not. More than 60% drop in price.
Anyone staying around there at the moment? Or is it abandon building now?

C-01-02, 1st Floor, Block C, Sawtelle Suites, Jalan Cyber Heights, Cyber Heights Villa
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 204,000🔥🔥
Freehold
710 sqft (duplex)
Auction:  29-Apr-2019 (Mon)

B-01-02, 1st Floor, Block B, Sawtelle Suites, Jalan Cyber Heights, Cyber Heights Villa
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 226,000🔥🔥
Freehold
710 sqft (duplex)
Auction:  29-Apr-2019 (Mon)

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In the first place, cyberjaya unit at 710 sqft do not command the price of $500K, at best only worth $300K at launch price.

Now, the whole place like ghost town, it's not surprising that the lelong unit dropped to $200K because no one pays maintenance, and the whole condo will deteriorate very quickly
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post May 5 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(thesnake @ May 5 2019, 09:55 AM)
mind to share details how to buy this unit trust?? If 14% per annum, why I dint hear about this b4 also?
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Be prepared to lose all your investment even if they claim to have capital protection
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post May 5 2019, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 5 2019, 12:34 PM)
It is those thought they could beat the market that end up loss everything. If one is discipline and not greedy, risks is manageable in almost any investment.
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If u buy funds. u have no control over the investment. That's how millions of people worldwide lose $$ on trust funds
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post May 5 2019, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 5 2019, 06:40 PM)
Do you know how many and type of funds out there?
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no matter how many type, if u wish to ignore warnings. best of luck to u
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post Sep 8 2019, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Sep 8 2019, 06:03 PM)
I have a question, before the property go to lelong, and the owner defaulted loan payment, knowing for sure cannot pay already, don't want to go bankruptcy.
I arrange to take up or paying remaining loans and take over the property, can this be done, or has it be done before?
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Yes, it can be done but you will be paying above market price if the previous owner took 90% loan.

Take the property mentioned above, purchased at $820K at 2016 (90% loan = $740K) 3 years of installment barely enough to cover interest + penalty + lawyer letter of demand and still need to calculate number of months of default.

Do u think it's worth it?

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post Sep 8 2019, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Sep 8 2019, 07:39 PM)
Say it is not the general case, say it had been paid 30-40% over, and the loan provider forgo the remaining interest if I pay in cash?
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It can be done with proper documentations and transfer with the help of a lawyer.

You need your lawyer to send

1) letter of intend to Bank to prevent lelong and undertake the defaulted payment + penalty. (Bank need to agree and approve before going to step 2)
2) Transfer of property thru normal buy/sell with seller selling you the property at the price he owes the bank. (remaining loan amount)

There may be some complications if the seller last minute backs out of the deal (extra expenses on court proceeding to force sell as per agreement)
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post Sep 8 2019, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Sep 8 2019, 08:13 PM)
If the market is really bad, the bank will lose a lot of money going to lelong as well.
Maybe can negotiate a discount?
I have never heard this is done in Malaysia.
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You can try to negotiate but I have never heard of Banks giving discount before biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2019, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Sep 8 2019, 09:05 PM)
Then they will say like I already bankruptcy, what worse you can do to me?
And bank just sit there losing money and more cost for the auction process.
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Unless a bankrupt person stay jobless, any job u undertake, the salary will be managed by administrative officer (AO) that will distribute part of the salary to pay off debt.

No one can declare bankrupt and Bank sign off debt and lead a normal life
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post Oct 22 2019, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Oct 19 2019, 01:01 PM)
Hi guys how is Penang property market looking right now? I'm thinking of getting a landed unit around 550-600k around Tanjong Bungah / Tanjong Tokong area excluding renovation costs, is that feasible?
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How is anyone going to help u, if u don't provide details?

$550-600K for a 1800sqft house is very expensive but if the house is 5000sqft, then go for it!
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post Nov 5 2019, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 5 2019, 11:42 AM)
https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us/en/r...lth-report.html

According to 2019 wealth report; one need US$109,430 net worth to be among top 10% wealthy in the world. However, number of adults in this country have over US$100k net worth is less than 4%, mean Malaysians wealth is below world average.
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short of one zero in the figure?

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post Nov 5 2019, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 5 2019, 08:12 PM)
Us$109430 net worth may seems nothing much by some but <4% of adults in this country could attain.
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I always thought to be top 10% is US$1,000,000

if just US$109,430, then half of Singaporean and Hong Konger are at the top 10% bracket

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post Nov 10 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Nov 10 2019, 05:12 PM)
What is bumi lots? Means Malaysian can buy? Foreigner cannot?
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Walk into any bank and ask to buy "Bumi" ASN. The officer will explain what is "Bumi" to you rclxs0.gif
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post Nov 16 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 16 2019, 12:23 PM)
what is em, ew?
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EM = eco majestic

EW = ecoworld
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post Feb 27 2020, 10:46 PM

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Wangsa Maju studio (562 sqft) at $450K is ridiculous.

No wonder drop below $250K in auction.




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post Jun 2 2020, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 2 2020, 11:52 AM)
S P Setia Berhad has launched the Setia NOW campaign, which sees more than 1,600 properties nationwide being offered with a rebate of up to 48% from the selling price. Ongoing until 31 July 2020, the campaign is one of the biggest to have been launched by the developer.

Aside from the discount, S P Setia is also providing several other promotions, such as the waiver of booking fees, down payments, or legal fees. You may also get a free memorandum of transfer (MOT).

A range of S P Setia properties are included in the campaign, catering to a variety of lifestyles and household sizes. You can choose from condominiums, serviced apartments, terrace houses, semi-detached homes, villas, bungalows, and even selected commercial units. Location-wise, they are situated in the Klang Valley, Johor, Penang, and Kota Kinabalu.

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/property/s-...w-campaign.html
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Wait a few more months and many more developers will offer high discount
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post Jan 2 2022, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jan 1 2022, 01:38 PM)
Case by case. Need to apply.
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I think only for flood victim
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post Jan 24 2022, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 24 2022, 06:32 PM)
One of many ways policymakers could find out is to ask the top 0.5% of the 14.9 million Employees Provident Fund (EPF) members who collectively had 12.4% of the savings managed by the provident fund at end-2020. Or better yet, ask the top 2.2% or some 245,805 EPF members with at least RM500,000 in savings each, who collectively have a quarter of the savings managed by the fund at end-2020.

The top 0.5% refers to the 248 EPF members with at least RM10 million each saved with the provident fund at end-2020, as well as the 67,919 members who had saved between RM1 million and RM10 million each.

There were also 245,805 EPF members who had at least RM500,000 but less than RM1 million saved with the EPF at end-2020. This group makes up 1.7% of the total number of EPF members but have 12.8% of the savings managed by the provident fund, EPF data shows.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/woul...-poorer-members

These numbers is consistent with 4% of adults have over USD 100k net worth; one need about RM 2m net worth to be top 1%.
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RM$2 million to be in the top 1% seems a bit low. Maybe too many rich Malaysian did not declare fully their $$/income in order to escape paying tax.



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