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nexona88
post Dec 10 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 10 2016, 06:53 PM)
what i think is not impt. biggrin.gif

msia is minor producer, need to INCR output.

if not, how will petronas survive? donations?!!
non-opec not in talks: usa, china, norway, brazil.

opec 1/3 world production.

non-opec 2/3.
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Well according to news report I saw today..
OPEC output cut not enough to drain oil stockpiles..

Now with the non commitment by non OPEC members.. Expect no changes devil.gif

Pricing will still depressed cry.gif
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post Dec 11 2016, 10:29 AM

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Non-OPEC oil producers to cut output 558,000 barrels a day

The 11 non-OPEC countries taking part in the agreement are: Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Equatorial Guinea, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Mexico, Oman, Russia, Sudan and South Sudan.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/10/non-opec-oi...rels-a-day.html



oil prices already rose 15% since nov 30.

if it continue to gain, there will be another aspect to watch - petrol prices, inflation!
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post Dec 11 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 11 2016, 10:29 AM)

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" Non-OPEC oil producers to cut output 558,000 barrels a day

The 11 non-OPEC countries taking part in the agreement are: Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Equatorial Guinea, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Mexico, Oman, Russia, Sudan and South Sudan.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/10/non-opec-oi...rels-a-day.html "


oil prices already rose 15% since nov 30.

if it continue to gain, there will be another aspect to watch - petrol prices, inflation!
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I don't see China and USA inside. I think if USA suddenly ramps up her production with DT in the chair, oil price wouldn't really benefit much later on.
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post Dec 11 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 11 2016, 11:15 AM)
I don't see China and USA inside. I think if USA suddenly ramps up her production with DT in the chair, oil price wouldn't really benefit much later on.
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The biggies usa, canada, brazil, china, norway not taking part.

Saudi said it may cut even more.

It is basically a saudi show.

What happens next, i.e., actual cuts, enforcement, cheating, shale, impact on existing excess stocks, etc... yet to see.

But can expect the financial markets to push oil price higher, at least for a while.

RM may gain a bit as a result but inflation will become a major driver.

Every time petrol price is raised, everyone takes the chance to raise ALL prices, never to come down!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 11 2016, 11:41 AM
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post Dec 11 2016, 12:00 PM

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In a way, that's a very msian thing.... raising prices....so there is merit for the old fixed price system....

Other countries prices fluctuates daily....nobody raise prices....
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post Dec 11 2016, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 11 2016, 10:29 AM)
oil prices already rose 15% since nov 30.

if it continue to gain, there will be another aspect to watch - petrol prices, inflation!
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Its bad news for Malaysian consumers..
Price of retail fuel will go up confirm doh.gif
Which also have related effect on others stuff mad.gif
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post Dec 11 2016, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 11 2016, 01:00 PM)
Its bad news for Malaysian consumers..
Price of retail fuel will go up confirm doh.gif
Which also have related effect on others stuff mad.gif
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only in Malaysia where petrol price goes down, we are paying more taxes and removal of subsidies because the country is running out of money. when petrol price comes up, we are charged more with the same reasons.

kinda shows how our government is fucking up their management of the country
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post Dec 11 2016, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 10 2016, 05:58 PM)
Good news if it is to hit 4.35. But are they ever right ? Lets see.  biggrin.gif
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I wud say 4.35 is within reach since non opec have agreed to cut production plus gradual improvement in sentiments
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post Dec 11 2016, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 11 2016, 12:00 PM)
In a way, that's a very msian thing.... raising prices....so there is merit for the old fixed price system....

Other countries prices fluctuates daily....nobody raise prices....
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Fixed prices via subsidies are commonly applied in underdeveloped economies, give it time for resources and human capital to grow and be productive. It is costly and will be regressive and counter productive if held on for too long.

The scenario here is akward. While yelling developed nation and high income status, certain subsidies and free money remains while human capital, production and productivty are not improving.

No easy way out.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 11 2016, 01:00 PM)
Its bad news for Malaysian consumers..
Price of retail fuel will go up confirm doh.gif
Which also have related effect on others stuff mad.gif
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This is where it will hurt.

For >2 years, oil price stayed low, prices of goods go up becos RM depr.
When oil price goes back up, RM gain will not be able to stop inflation.

The only thing that will overcome this is fast increasing wages.
And that is not happening.
Result... everyone becomes poorer.
Except those with tens, hundreds of millions, billions.
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post Dec 11 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 11 2016, 01:05 PM)
only in Malaysia where petrol price goes down, we are paying more taxes and removal of subsidies because the country is running out of money. when petrol price comes up,  we are charged more with the same reasons.

kinda shows how our government is fucking up their management of the country
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well it's would get worse later.. gomen is spending spending like no tomorrow.. they cut the necessary stuff / allocation but add more allocation for unnecessary spending..


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 11 2016, 02:57 PM)
Fixed prices via subsidies are commonly applied in underdeveloped economies, give it time for resources and human capital to grow and be productive. It is costly and will be regressive and counter productive if held on for too long.

The scenario here is akward. While yelling developed nation and high income status, certain subsidies and free money remains while human capital, production and productivty are not improving.

No easy way out.
This is where it will hurt.

For >2 years, oil price stayed low, prices of goods go up becos RM depr.
When oil price goes back up, RM gain will not be able to stop inflation.

The only thing that will overcome this is fast increasing wages.
And that is not happening.
Result... everyone becomes poorer.
Except those with tens, hundreds of millions, billions.
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well the poor become poor because of pressure of cost while the rich become rich because of smart investments / strategy.. later another problem will become much worse. Crime rate will shoot the roof..
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post Dec 11 2016, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 9 2016, 11:18 PM)
Hahaha...
U still remember him/her
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Last time, we refer to "her". Now not sure anymore ! mega_shok.gif brows.gif

That person has set up for people to believe him/her. Migrate to Australia, USD trading 6 digit gain etc etc. doh.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 11 2016, 05:51 PM)
well it's would get worse later.. gomen is spending spending like no tomorrow.. they cut the necessary stuff / allocation but add more allocation for unnecessary spending.. 
well the poor become poor because of pressure of cost while the rich become rich because of smart investments / strategy.. later another problem will become much worse. Crime rate will shoot the roof..
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For reasons there are only 3% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth.

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post Dec 12 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2016, 11:25 PM)
For reasons there are only 3% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth.
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shocking.gif
where do you get this info from? can share?

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post Dec 12 2016, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 11 2016, 02:57 PM)
For >2 years, oil price stayed low, prices of goods go up becos RM depr.
When oil price goes back up, RM gain will not be able to stop inflation.

The only thing that will overcome this is fast increasing wages.
And that is not happening.
Result... everyone becomes poorer.
Except those with tens, hundreds of millions, billions.
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Increase wages come with increase KPI
It's challenging for employee to meet numbers when the prevailing sentiment is poor
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post Dec 12 2016, 11:36 AM

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USD index spot down slightly today to 101.47 now
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oil price up 5%.

public holiday today, less action onshore or offshore.

same same 4.42.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2016, 11:25 PM)
For reasons there are only 3% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth.
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Hmm only 3%
That's very small number of individuals indeed...
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 12 2016, 12:01 PM)
oil price up 5%.

public holiday today, less action onshore or offshore.

same same 4.42.
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I noticed that when Msia is not working, then RM tends to be stronger, and vice-versa,... any similar observations please ?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 10 2016, 03:10 PM)
No need wait....long queues already at mvm now....
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That place is forever like that. People are flocking there to save the few ringgits. laugh.gif

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 12 2016, 12:01 PM)
oil price up 5%.

public holiday today, less action onshore or offshore.

same same 4.42.
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For some reason, the US Dollar rose abit compared to two days ago.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2016, 11:25 PM)
For reasons there are only 3% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth.
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 12 2016, 10:39 AM)
shocking.gif
where do you get this info from? can share?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 12 2016, 12:15 PM)
Hmm only 3%
That's very small number of individuals indeed...
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Only 3% ? I find that hard to believe,... lots of ASX FP investors got more than USD100K worth inside,... maybe the source of this info will help to explain more to us.

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