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Hansel
post Dec 7 2016, 09:03 PM

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Good movements against the USD today, despite the reduced foreign reserves ann't.. Probably analysts expected the drop will be more, but instead, the drop was only 1.9Bil USD ONLY,...

So,... MYR strengthened,.. I recalled this afternoon, it weakened a bit back to 4.43,...then turned around again.

Added : https://au.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MYR%3DX&t=1d

This post has been edited by Hansel: Dec 7 2016, 09:04 PM
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post Dec 8 2016, 12:48 AM

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Good points above,...but how to mediate ? Convert now and not wait anymore because the RM does not really have any sign that will help it ??

Because if we don't convert now, chances are the value will drop more moving forward,...
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 8 2016, 01:17 AM)
see, that is what i'm thinking - what will make it appr? other than $ falling?

and then u read this kind of thing from dunno who...  biggrin.gif

why is it that when a currency goes to the dogs, "A lot of foreign investment is expected to come."?! a lot of foreign $ going to turkey, venezuela, egypt, nigeria, argentina too? or getting dumped harder?

and oil price will magically shoot up from 50 to 65 within 6 months? please...
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As you said earlier, the RM has been dropping in the last two years,... I supposed we have been hoping for the best with the RM all while, hoping for s strong turnaround, which never came. We have been waiting thanks to people from your previous posting,...

But,.. we only have ourselves to blame, we should be able to think for ourselves,...

Start to change, start to open more accounts overseas,...
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post Dec 9 2016, 10:22 AM

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Good opinions,...I think I will start to convertout lar,... really nothing much to say anymore, and there is really nothing to help MYR in the near future,...

Asset prices overseas are dropping,... need to prepare my warchest.

Weak MYR also weak-lar,... what to do ???

We were born in Msia,... that's the thing to blame.
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post Dec 9 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 9 2016, 10:28 AM)
well, should feel fortunate if u can still fight, convert, prepare.

young and old, many will be devastated:
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Ok bro,... sorry to say the earlier things so openly,.. never ever wanted to hurt people,... dry.gif
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post Dec 11 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 11 2016, 10:29 AM)

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" Non-OPEC oil producers to cut output 558,000 barrels a day

The 11 non-OPEC countries taking part in the agreement are: Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Brunei, Equatorial Guinea, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Mexico, Oman, Russia, Sudan and South Sudan.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/10/non-opec-oi...rels-a-day.html "


oil prices already rose 15% since nov 30.

if it continue to gain, there will be another aspect to watch - petrol prices, inflation!
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I don't see China and USA inside. I think if USA suddenly ramps up her production with DT in the chair, oil price wouldn't really benefit much later on.
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 12 2016, 12:01 PM)
oil price up 5%.

public holiday today, less action onshore or offshore.

same same 4.42.
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I noticed that when Msia is not working, then RM tends to be stronger, and vice-versa,... any similar observations please ?
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 11 2016, 11:25 PM)
For reasons there are only 3% of adults in the kangkong land have over us$100k net worth.
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 12 2016, 10:39 AM)
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where do you get this info from? can share?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 12 2016, 12:15 PM)
Hmm only 3%
That's very small number of individuals indeed...
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Only 3% ? I find that hard to believe,... lots of ASX FP investors got more than USD100K worth inside,... maybe the source of this info will help to explain more to us.
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post Dec 12 2016, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 12 2016, 12:30 PM)
not really, just that it is usually flat-flat on holidays.

actually, at this time, there are things we don't know...

is BNM still intervening, $ sold or bought?
are the exporters complying?
are foreigners still selling mgs and bursa? (us 10 yr yield 2.493% today).

meanwhile, BNM is patting itself on the back...
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2091779
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 12 2016, 12:35 PM)
that statistic, whether $100k or 1mil, must be something from some int'l survey.

it is usually in $ NET WORTH.

there must be many with 1 mil in ASX and 2 mil in loans. biggrin.gif

no surprise if u look at levels of household debt.

moreover, 3% adult, say 3% of 10 mil = 300,000.

there are only 13,800 millionaires in KL urban in 2014.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...00-millionaires
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Dec 12 2016, 01:57 PM)
Btw, the above article is flawed as one of the comment said

"What sort of reporting is this? London has 395,000 millionaires. New York, Tokyo, Paris and dozens of other cities have more than 13800 - even tiny Singapore. And what on earth does the comparison with Paraguay add to the discussion?"
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Tq gents on the millionaire explanations,.... thumbsup.gif

As for the rate movement,... I noticed some events lately, before Msia starts working and after Msia starts working,... If I convert before KL starts, the rate was better. Then,... the MYR weakened later on,.... but my observation was for a few days only, hence not a sufficiently big sample. Tks bro,....

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post Dec 13 2016, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 13 2016, 12:20 AM)
Compliance is not by choice. Once the money comes into their account, the bank is mandated to convert 75% into myr. So, yes, the exporters are already complying.
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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Dec 13 2016, 06:56 AM)
There are many loopholes. You can set up a bank account in cayman island and bypass this rule.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 13 2016, 08:29 AM)
In fact, Bank's HQ will auto convert (75%) once monies reach M'sia b4 credit the same into respective a/c
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The ruling is the exporter must bring back the export proceeds into the country, ie repatriate back to a licenced Msian onshore bank, within three months after the transaction. Hence, the exporter can wait and wait till the RM strengthens before TT'ing out from the overseas acct where the fund is parked.

Or,... the exporter may give a 6-month credit term to the overseas customer, then the overseas customer pays in 6 months time into the overseas bank acct., and the 6-month 'bringing-back period' will be for another 6-months from thereon. All in,.. one year to bring back and convert into the RM,....
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post Dec 13 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 13 2016, 09:34 AM)
What if I as an exporter decided to have offshore account in SG/UK/HK and ask my clients to bank in the money into those account. That way, I don't need to convert my earnings into RM right? Just a thought  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 13 2016, 09:36 AM)
Yes, u r rite
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 13 2016, 09:40 AM)
bnm/fin min will surely like everyone to bring back in RM instantaneously.

probably thinking ways to "force" all big and and small monies back.

but biz people are usually clever and well prepared.

if they blindly comply 100% quick and risk high exposure, they are not very good biz people.
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BNM should track the proceeds which are incurred during exports - then again, don't know whether they do this accurately or not ?? Chances are high they don't.

If wanting to force monies back,... the Indon govt is doing it now,... can see their model,... but if this happens, all ministers also 'kena',...

BUT : if exporters don't bring their money back, we also die,... if the RM can't appreciate.

So,..................which one do you guys want ????? I vote that the exporters bring back. Somebody will have to lose here, cause we are staying in Msia. WE hold the Msian Passport, and we are born in Msia.
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post Dec 13 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 13 2016, 10:32 AM)
BNM doesn't need to cross check with Offshore bank or need to track every single export.

You issued tax invoice on 13/12/2016, and the goods being delivered worth 10 mil to overseas clients, after 3 or 6 months later, where is the 7.5 mil sales proceed?
Fail to show/explain, break the rules.
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Knowing our govt,... 3 or 6 months later,...everybody will forget abt it, people would have changed, documents missing, hard disk crashed,... smile.gif

Unless they happen to target one or two lar,... see who 'gets the lottery',... BNM also wants to have an easier life,....
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post Dec 14 2016, 10:23 AM

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I saw on Bloomberg this morning that EM Currencies and Stocks are moving in tandem with the US Mkts overnight,...

I don't see out RM strengthening against the USD this morning. The RM even weakened vs the AUD and the SGD compared to yesterday,...

Did I miss something ??
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post Dec 14 2016, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 14 2016, 10:38 AM)
from what i see in the last few days...

.. the exporters saga has indeed curbed the offshore volatility.
.. bnm continuously intervening to hold at 4.4x.
.. net buying or selling $, we won't know until next fx reserves report or they say something.

it will take bigger movements in the $ to know for sure.

fri morning after fed move will probably reveal something.

still, in the longer term, we are back to the same thing - what will help the RM appr sustainably?
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Bro,... it would be tomorrow morning, right ? The press conference with Ms Yellen is on the coming morning at 2 am,....

And then why did Bloomberg mentioned specifically that EM Currencies gained, and I even saw they wrote the RM and the Won gained against the $ this morning,... I did not study the Won, but I sure know my RM did not strengthen,.. in fact it even weakened this morning when I looked.

I think no chance to strengthen already,... this will be the new norm,.....
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post Dec 14 2016, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 14 2016, 12:47 PM)
With a few multi billionaires in US cabinet, believe they won't harm their own wealth.
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Yes,... this is the thing,.... even if there are going to be any problems, these people will find a way out for the USA,.... Looking at things, maybe my man DT is smart after all,....
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post Dec 15 2016, 04:24 AM

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Fed news conference running now,... rate rise confirmed this morning.

BANKS EXTEND RALLY AS FED SEES THREE RATE HIKES.

FED RATE PATH SINKS BONDS, OIL, EURO, YEN.

FED RAISES RATES, BOOSTS OUTLOOK FOR BORROWING COSTS IN 2017.
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post Dec 15 2016, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 14 2016, 10:36 PM)
Malaysian ringgit likely to continue depreciating until end-2017, says Scotiabank
http://www.econotimes.com/Malaysian-ringgi...otiabank-449265
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Dec 14 2016, 11:52 PM)
The weirdest thing about the Ringgit currently is that although oil prices increased at certain time, the ringgit didn't appreciate proportionately, It's safe to say that the "political environment" is the key factor of the depreciation of the Ringgit apart from the Fed's rate hike ?
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The Ringgit has decoupled from oil price since two months or so ago. I'm glad I've been converting out earlier,...
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post Dec 15 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 15 2016, 10:14 AM)
with rate hike and more coming in 2017...

us bond yield 2.582%

$ index 102.3

yen.. 117

euro.. 1.05

sgd.. 1.437

rm.. 4.461
i would think rm should be closer to 4.50 by now if not for...

bursa and mgs should see a bit more selling.

if wanna buy fx, good time now, i wud say.
anyway, what we see today.. was anything unexpected? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 15 2016, 10:19 AM)
Everything was in line with expectation just maybe for the 3 rate hike forecast which is extra info.

But would expect the myr to weakened and probably rebound only on next year.
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I think the 25bp hike is priced in everywhere already,... no issue there,..

The only mkt movers are :-

1) the no of hikes next yr.
2) the tone of the Fed Chair.
3) how the Fed Chair intends to work with DT.

I think 2) and 3) above contradicted mkt expectations highly, hence the selloff seen now.
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post Dec 15 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 15 2016, 10:49 AM)
yep, the 25bps was pretty much 99% priced in.

the continued strength of the $ and falling bond prices is a result of the hawkish stance for 2017 in the messages.

and so, here we go again... given all that has happened...

what WILL sustainably appreciate the RM in 2017?

more controls? raise taxes, hike int rates? cut budget spending? austerity?

we already have an idea, don't we?

how will other financially mismanaged economies manage this onslaught?
one good thing came out of this fed saga - oil prices retreated to 50.xx.

that will ease some pressure off a potentially hefty petrol price incr on 1 jan 2017.
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thumbsup.gif Good analysis there, AV,... Going back to RM strength, looks like there is still nothing in the horizon to re-strengthen the RM again. In fact, if we wait longer, the RM will even continue to weaken, making us lose more purchasing power. These are indeed very abnormal times.
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post Dec 16 2016, 04:04 PM

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RM is a gone case !

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