nice roadbike rims. But I'm planning to go for Lightweight next year.Or maybe Bora Ultra Two's

my rear brake juddering getting worse .. plus the irritating squeaking noise produced

roadbike or mountain? if mountain disc or v brake?If v brake clean the surface of the brake pad and braking surface.Same goes to disc.Clean the rotors.

http://www.focus-bikes.com/int/en/bikes/bi...riado-20-6.html

what do u think of this at 3.9k?

tempting...slurrpp...the FD will auto adjust to avoid chain rubbing the FD while using largest gears and smallest gears...

the crank look weird... any reason they design like that? butthead sifu...

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Added on January 7, 2012, 2:11 pmjust done some googling... seems like this Q-Ring designed for increase efficiency and pedaling power?... butthead go buy one~!

This post has been edited by hianboy: Jan 7 2012, 02:11 PM

carbonsport lightweights... nice wheels.. but will leave it only for race days... hope they have some sort of crash replacement program in malaysia...

campy bora ultra two's are cheaper by comparison.

if rim brakes, the noise can be reduced by toeing in the brake pad by a bit.

other wise check for oil on the rotor or rim and pads or signs of wear and warpped rotor

it is not very expensive keeping in mind that it is a focus.

a specialized allez will land you RM5k for the same 105 or apex configuration.

wow butthead dailou nvr know u can surf net on saturday except u at ur office now...

oh wait...i forgor ur Nokia also can online too... FUUUUUUUU...

i go check with another sifu first.. you know him too ... it is called google.

that is autotrim which was available when they launch DA Di2, who rides the big chainring with the big cog anyways... they are just feeding us more things that we don't need...

campy has now came out with EPS on their super record 11..has multiple shifts by holding the shift button.

cranks are biopace / oval cranks... 2 company more famous for producing it nowadays

Osymetric - brad wiggins and sky is the more famous riders
http://www.osymetric.com/content/view/25/52/lang,en/

and

Rotor - carlos sastre and CTT team previously
http://www.rotorbikeusa.com/

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 7 2012, 02:38 PM

Well Component wise seems quite ok right? the shop owner said about sealed bearing in the wheels compared to the shimano wheelset as in Polygon Helios 500.
The price seems quite ok to me at 3.9k.

FSA component is ok too? Felt like sealing my decision now, the S size is actually 53cm.. I think quite ok for me @ 178cm height I guess

my Helios 500 is Mavic wheelset... the one u found is shimano wheelset?

okey comment noted , thanks guys

am using tektro draco hydraulic brake btw
went for checking today , they say rotor is okey one, its normal for the sound , and hv to bear w it , other bike also sometime scream the same song ..
otherwise hv to opted for brake pad change

my bad, confused, shimano wheelset is on Helios 300

come~ tmr Kiara~

Missed out something... did you asked if they were a 2012 model or 2011 model? your link is pointing to the 2012 which is lacking quite a bit of details. But from the 2012 picture if that looks everything the same as you saw has a

Crank
i doubt it is this (expensive) but based on the big FSA livery on the crankarm which is not on the gossamer and vero usually paired at this price range
http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/14/...egaExo-Crankset

2011 is a vero model FSA crank
http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/37/...ompact-Crankset

Rear Derailleur
seems to be a mid cage 105 to support in excess of a 28T cassette, would be a plus point if you decide to take it to ride lots of hills. this also makes sense as they have on the 2011 model either a triple or double compact crank. will sacrifice slightly on shifting speed and precision but allows you to run a wider gear ratio than the the usual ones like a 11-23, 11-25 or 11-26

General Drivetrain RD, FD, shifter, brake calipers
looks to be full 105 except for the crank, good idea to check the front derailleur as it might be from a lower range, can't tell from pics

Wheelset
looks like their own brand of wheelset, 3 cross lacing to their own rim and most probably a shimano hub

Cockpit
again their own brand of saddles and stem / handlebar combo i think

The only question here is the frame and the material used. The specs don't say whether it is a 6000 or 7000 series aluminum and the butting on the frame. Most of the bigger brands would have 7005 triple butted frames, 7000 series aluminum would have slightly more longevity against 6000 series and also slightly a bit more stiffer.

Generally, be it a 2012 or 2011 bike it is placed at a competitive price range @ 3.9k for the focus brand if you are brand conscious. Generally if you look at a 105 combo equipped aluminum fuji, scott, bmc, or even specialized it will be placed above RM4k with most in the region of 5.

Yes, the shop is right that shimano's have never used any form of cartridge bearings over the years for their wheels. They have stick to using cup and cone loose ball bearings all the while. For me sealed bearing are overrated and isn't a selling point, they are only normal cartridge bearings fitted with dust shields for minimizing dirt from entered the bearing and gauzing them in the long term.

Contrary to many beliefs, loose balls actually rolls smoother than most cartridge bearings. It is just that cartridge bearings offer easier replacement as cup and cone system is much more harder to service.

they spec'ed yours with the ksyrium equipped jeh u lucky *******. they also have it with r-500s

my old cable tektro's also had screeching sound when pulling on the levers, but due to the lack of the pad alignment adjustment on my lousy caliper i took the pads out and try to ground it down a bit with the finest sandpaper i can find. you might want to check with the MTB sifus to see if it is a recommended method to do.

the sound went away for a while but came back again after quite a few rides

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Added on January 7, 2012, 9:28 pmgo fly a kite...

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 7 2012, 09:28 PM

Yup, its normal but can be annoying. What you can do is:
- clean the rotors with alcohol (I tend to do this quite often anyways)
- sand the brake pads with sandpaper. start with medium then go down to fine. you just want to scrap off the very top layer of it, not the entire thing.

the alcohol doesn't really work if it is an oil issue because the oil would have lodged on the porous surface of the rotors..i tried before to spray those oven cleaners onto my rotors and left it for a bit before wiping them off... but to no avail..

i think the screeching thing is a mystery... different people different case

on a rim brake, i just usually toe in the brake pads and it sort of dials out the noise. if the pads contact the rim squarely it will cause tiny vibrations which produces the sound.

but if you let the front most end of the pad to come into contact with the rim slightly ahead, then it will dampen out the sounds. not a physicist, not sure why or how to explain it.

not an option for discs unfortunately.

Thank you for your lengthy explanation.

I guess it's a good buy after all, I have to believe it's 2011 model as it's under promotion, full retain price is 4.5k. On my budget really cannot expect too much edi, since tiagra have really limited option I just move on to 105 I guess

On the bearing side, I have been wondering why is everyone talking about sealed bearing. I'm an engineering student after all, design of bearing only matter with the cage, and the ball's hardness and roundness. Seal bearing do have many advantage over normal bearing, on smoother or not it depends a lot on the cage design actually. Ease of maintenance is one big point as I ripped open my old MTB shaft and I lost many bearing without realising they fall all over the floor.

I tried rotating both the wheel set of Shimano and the Focus's, it appears the Shimano's 1 is much smoother and feels lighter..

One of the review I found
http://talkingtreads.com/2011/07/01/focus-...ado-2-0-review/

This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Jan 7 2012, 10:43 PM

to get a bike cheap is 1 thing... after sales service is important as well since you will have to depend on the shop for anything after the purchase unless you are willing to keep on paying money to get it serviced somewhere else.

But if that is your first bike... don't really matter since you are treading into unknown waters.

Yes, bearings are quite exaggerated nowadays especially with ceramics. Bicycle bearings will have to balance between precision, load bearing, longevity mainly. Think even known bicycle bearing manufacturer like enduro only manufactures up to their claimed ABEC-5 grade for their ball roundness.Then there is the question of their hardness of their bearing races and whether the grooves are there and deep enough to let the balls track correctly in line and best if there are teflon retainers to keep the balls in place. No point having 1 thing harder than the other and then speeding up the wear rate like what most poorly made ceramic bearings are nowadays. Marketing schemes, i say

Not sure what hubs the focus are on but based on the review you posted. Again it is their in house product. SB or not, i don't really care since it makes my wallet flatter.

For me, why bother if i have to pay my bike shop to service the wheels anyways? They are getting paid to do the job i pay them to do. So no point i spend money to make it easier for them. It'd be different if i have to take apart the shaft to service it myself.

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Added on January 7, 2012, 11:13 pm1 point for the in house wheels against shimano is that they seem to have more spokes... and hopefully normal j-bend spokes which are easily replaceable.

32 spokes in 3 cross form will allow you to be more harsher on it albeit some weight penalties.

shimano r-501 or rs-10, rs-20 models should be using straight pull which can be harder to come by...

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Added on January 7, 2012, 11:17 pmjust make sure before you buy this bike that you don't have evil friends like me that will coax you into buying pointless upgrade...

105 still leaves room for future upgrades, mind you...

and most importantly i stress very highly... inner self control... limited $$$ or a very restrictive wive will be a very good substitute in this matter

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 7 2012, 11:18 PM

Any idea how much is the weight for the Focus?

Reading from the review you mentioned it is 23 pound or 10.4 Kg (60cm frame) .

Other review on bicycling.com mentioned 21.4 pound or 9.7Kg for XL size.

Comparing the Focus to Giant TCR SL2 2012 (7.9KG) @ RM4.8k (quoted by one of Giant dealer, before nego), is the saving of ~2Kg worth the extra RM1k?

Both having similar white colors, 105...

Around 5k+ you can already to get entry carbon frames with some lower group components. For me weight doesn't really matter too much my body weight alone could have surplus the differences of the bike