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post Feb 28 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 26 2017, 06:35 PM)
What advantage does a modern tank destroyer's gun have with the MBTs it is supposed to be destroying? An ATGM has better range, accuracy and guaranteed kill rates than any gun. Reviving the gun-armed tank destroyer concept is like reviving the static anti-tank gun in this day and age.

I imagine the concept of an assault gun nowadays as an infantry support weapon still has currency, but the role is far different from destroying armored  tanks.
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1. Versatile - can be used for infantry support.

2. Cheap - ATGMs are expensive.

3. Dumb - more resistant than ATGMs to electronic, laser, smoke, active countermeasures etc.

4. Effective - given focus on defeating ATGM HEAT warheads, simple KE penetrator can be more effective

Range and accuracy is not really an issue as even curremt tank guns and ammo are effective at up to 3km or even more. Who knows what a 130mm gun and advanced shells could do.

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China says it has received its largest foreign drone order - Xinhua

SHANGHAI: An undisclosed buyer has placed the largest overseas order for China's home-developed military drones, the Xinhua news agency has reported, in a boost for the Chinese arms industry's efforts to increase export volumes.

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The order for the Wing Loong II was placed before the next-generation unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) successfully completed its maiden flight, Xinhua said late on Monday, citing the system's developer Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute.

It did not identify the buyer or the size of the order.

The Wing Loong II, which has wingspan of more than 20 metres (65 feet), is a medium-altitude, long-endurance UAV that has both reconnaissance and strike capabilities.

It conducted a 31-minute flight for the first time on Monday after taking off from a runway in western China.

"Its flight marks China's new generation reconnaissance and strike UAV. Following the United States, China becomes another country capable of developing such new-generation, large reconnaissance and strike UAV," said Li Yidong, chief designer of the series, whose programme is overseen by the state-owned Aviation Industry Corp of China.

China has been stepping up research into military drones in the hope that it can steal market share from the United States and Israel with its cheaper technology and willingness to sell to countries that Western states are reluctant to deal with.

The Wing Loong II's predecessor sells for just US$1 million according to Chinese media reports. The U.S.-made MQ-9 Reaper, to which it has sometimes been compared, is priced at around US$30 million.

China has previously had limited success exporting manned military aircraft but is hoping to do better with UAVs, given that they are cheaper and easier to manufacture. Foreign buyers for its drones include Nigeria, Pakistan and Egypt.

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China's military modernisation has rattled nerves around the region with increasingly assertive moves to bolster its sovereignty claims in the South China Sea and over Taiwan, which it regards as a breakaway province.

It showed off its Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter in public for the first time in November and months earlier put into service a new, domestically developed large transport aircraft.

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(Reporting by Brenda Goh; Editing by Paul Tait)

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Iran ?
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post Feb 28 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Feb 28 2017, 02:25 PM)
Iran ?
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Saudi 。。。 they sign deal with china to setup manufacturing drone in saudi, and saudi military will used it and will sell it to there Arab alliance country too.
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post Feb 28 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 28 2017, 02:42 PM)
Saudi 。。。 they sign deal with china to setup manufacturing drone in saudi, and saudi military will used it and will sell it to there Arab alliance country too.
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thats interesting.. cause i would presume Saudi would buy from USA instead.
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post Feb 28 2017, 03:50 PM

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Personal data of Singapore servicemen, Mindef staff stolen in targeted cyber attack

SINGAPORE: The personal details of 850 national servicemen and staff at Singapore's Defence Ministry (Mindef) were stolen in what has been described as a "targeted and carefully planned" cyber attack.

The breach of Mindef's I-net system was discovered in early February. The I-net systemprovides Internet access to national servicemen and employees for their personal communications and Internet surfing via thousands of dedicated computer terminals in Mindef, as well as Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) camps and premises.

Mindef said this was the first time that the I-net system was breached, resulting in the loss of the 850 personnel's NRIC numbers, telephone numbers and birth dates. The attack was executed remotely over the Internet.

Mindef said in a media briefing on Tuesday (Feb 28): "The real purpose may have been to gain access to official secrets, but this was prevented by the physical separation of I-net from our internal systems."

David Koh, Mindef's deputy secretary of technology, said: "The attack did not come from camps or internal systems. Neither was it the work of casual hackers or criminal gangs."

Security experts said the attack could have been state sponsored.

Aloysius Cheang, executive vice-president of global computing security association Cloud Security Alliance, said: "It is common for states to sponsor such attacks to access other countries' infrastructure, and build a portfolio of information that can be used to their advantage."

Upon detecting the attack, Mindef disconnected the affected server from I-net. Koh said the hacker exploited vulnerabilities in the server and the security hole has since been plugged.

He added: "Mindef adopts a multilayer approach to security. The attacker only breached the outer layer but did not go deeper into classified systems."

No classified military information is stored on I-net. Classified and military data, and internal e-mail applications reside in a different system that is not connected to the Internet.

Mindef said it conducted detailed forensic investigations into the entire I-net system to determine the extent of the breach. All other systems within Mindef and SAF are also being investigated.

While the outcome of the investigations is pending, Mindef said it will contact all affected personnel within the week. They will be advised to change their passwords and report any unusual activity related to the use of their personal information.

Mindef has also informed Singapore's Cyber Security Agency and the Government Technology Agency of Singapore to investigate other government systems. No breaches have been detected so far, Mindef said.

PwC Singapore's Asia-Pacific cyber and financial crime leader Vincent Loy said that Mindef's policy to have separate networks for classified and non-classified information limited the impact of the attack. - The Straits Times/Asia News Network

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...-mindef-hacked/
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post Feb 28 2017, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Feb 28 2017, 05:50 PM)
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i think somebody gonna get sack... i thought all their coms were taken offline liao...
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post Feb 28 2017, 07:15 PM

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O&G sekarang susah, bang biggrin.gif laugh.gif
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lol have to buy knock offs then.. no choice...
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QUOTE(bereev @ Feb 28 2017, 07:16 PM)
Dubai even planning to launch the drone taxi city tour also provided by China factory
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thats interesting considering that middle east countries are heavily influenced by religion and that China "communist" has a propensity to negate any religion esp those from the west part of China. It seems that middle east is now gravitating towards China.

However the Middle east still rely on West military equipment and has lots of contract between middle east and west. Would this enable the west to get their hands on China military equipments?
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post Feb 28 2017, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Feb 28 2017, 07:25 PM)
thats interesting considering that middle east countries are heavily influenced by religion  and that China "communist" has a propensity to negate any religion esp those from the west part of China. It seems that middle east is now gravitating towards China.

Like buying Tesco barang over Cold Storage... for low-tech stuff you really can't beat the value brows.gif

Even in Msia which have suffered from them, its okay to layan KNN Commies™ instead of agenda yahudis which have done nothing to us... because the Great Satan of today is Murica. Back in the 80s it was Russia. Well, imam say so... so like that lah whistling.gif whistling.gif

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However the Middle east still rely on West military equipment and has lots of contract between middle east and west. Would this enable the west to get their hands on China military equipments?
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probably West approach African people for that, or maybe East Europe... thats how they acquire Soviet tech the last time
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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Feb 28 2017, 09:25 PM)
thats interesting considering that middle east countries are heavily influenced by religion  and that China "communist" has a propensity to negate any religion esp those from the west part of China. It seems that middle east is now gravitating towards China.

However the Middle east still rely on West military equipment and has lots of contract between middle east and west. Would this enable the west to get their hands on China military equipments?
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lelz.. religion*
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 28 2017, 07:34 PM)
Like buying Tesco barang over Cold Storage... for low-tech stuff you really can't beat the value brows.gif

Even in Msia which have suffered from them, its okay to layan KNN Commies™ instead of agenda yahudis which have done nothing to us... because the Great Satan of today is Murica. Back in the 80s it was Russia. Well, imam say so... so like that lah whistling.gif whistling.gif
probably West approach African people for that, or maybe East Europe... thats how they acquire Soviet tech the last time
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value is one think ...
main importance China sell weapon/asset is they (china) not care your country internal issue, also not tied with any rule. not like America. they just want do business. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Feb 28 2017, 03:50 PM)
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Personal data of Singapore servicemen, Mindef staff stolen in targeted cyber attack

SINGAPORE: The personal details of 850 national servicemen and staff at Singapore's Defence Ministry (Mindef) were stolen in what has been described as a "targeted and carefully planned" cyber attack.

The breach of Mindef's I-net system was discovered in early February. The I-net systemprovides Internet access to national servicemen and employees for their personal communications and Internet surfing via thousands of dedicated computer terminals in Mindef, as well as Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) camps and premises.

Mindef said this was the first time that the I-net system was breached, resulting in the loss of the 850 personnel's NRIC numbers, telephone numbers and birth dates. The attack was executed remotely over the Internet.

Mindef said in a media briefing on Tuesday (Feb 28): "The real purpose may have been to gain access to official secrets, but this was prevented by the physical separation of I-net from our internal systems."

David Koh, Mindef's deputy secretary of technology, said: "The attack did not come from camps or internal systems. Neither was it the work of casual hackers or criminal gangs."

Security experts said the attack could have been state sponsored.

Aloysius Cheang, executive vice-president of global computing security association Cloud Security Alliance, said: "It is common for states to sponsor such attacks to access other countries' infrastructure, and build a portfolio of information that can be used to their advantage."

Upon detecting the attack, Mindef disconnected the affected server from I-net. Koh said the hacker exploited vulnerabilities in the server and the security hole has since been plugged.

He added: "Mindef adopts a multilayer approach to security. The attacker only breached the outer layer but did not go deeper into classified systems."

No classified military information is stored on I-net. Classified and military data, and internal e-mail applications reside in a different system that is not connected to the Internet.

Mindef said it conducted detailed forensic investigations into the entire I-net system to determine the extent of the breach. All other systems within Mindef and SAF are also being investigated.

While the outcome of the investigations is pending, Mindef said it will contact all affected personnel within the week. They will be advised to change their passwords and report any unusual activity related to the use of their personal information.

Mindef has also informed Singapore's Cyber Security Agency and the Government Technology Agency of Singapore to investigate other government systems. No breaches have been detected so far, Mindef said.

PwC Singapore's Asia-Pacific cyber and financial crime leader Vincent Loy said that Mindef's policy to have separate networks for classified and non-classified information limited the impact of the attack. - The Straits Times/Asia News Network

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...-mindef-hacked/
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Bleh buat case study ni..
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 09:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere
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night stalkers chinook
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 09:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere

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this one landed on the sand dune next to Penang Bridge yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133...&type=3&theater
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exercise apa ni?
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Israel's Netanyahu and military blamed over 2014 Gaza war: report



A two-year inquiry into the 2014 Gaza War by Israel's official watchdog, the State Comptroller, has found the government failed to explore diplomatic solutions that could have avoided the seven-week conflict.

The report also criticises Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet for ignoring earlier warnings that the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gaza would lead to grave consequences for Israel.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 09:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere

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this one landed on the sand dune next to Penang Bridge yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133...&type=3&theater
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that is Special Operations version Chinook (MH-47)which special made with extra seal so can land in water/lake/sand, and refueling. but also flight slower 26xkm/h vs 315km/h.
Normal army version CH-47 no have capability for that,


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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 09:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere

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this one landed on the sand dune next to Penang Bridge yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133...&type=3&theater
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Looking at Penang Kini FB comment
some of the netizen angry that the exericse held up the traffic..

bukan everidey pun jam ka atas Jambatan
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Malaysia lays keel for second littoral combat ship

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
28 February 2017

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A model of Malaysia's SGPV-LCS platform currently under construction at Malaysia's BNS. Source: Dzirhan Mahadzir

Boustead Naval Shipyard (BNS) has laid down the keel for another 111 m Second Generation Patrol Vessel - Littoral Combat Ship (SGPV-LCS) on order for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN).

The vessel, which is the second of six 3,000-tonne ships ordered under a MYR9 billion (USD2 billion) contract, was laid on 28 February in a ceremony presided over by the country's deputy defence minister, Mohd Johari Bin Baharum. The programme's first-of-class was laid down in March 2016.

The SGPV-LCS is derived from the Gowind 2500 design produced by French shipbuilder DCNS. The ships will be armed with BAE Systems' 57 mm Mk 3 naval gun, two MSI-Defence Seahawk 30 mm guns, and two J+S 324 mm triple tube torpedo launcher systems.

To bolster the platform's defensive capabilities, Malaysia has reportedly selected the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) anti-ship missile and MBDA VL Mica point defence missile systems.

The first SGPV-LCS is expected to be delivered in early 2019.


http://www.janes.com/article/68304/malaysi...ral-combat-ship
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SPH Delayed

Marhalim Abas March 1, 2017 Malaysian Army

SHAH ALAM: SPH Delayed. The plan to buy the M109 SPH for the Army has been deferred due to the current budget crunch. The timing for the purchase remained uncertain and will depend on the final approval of the government, Army chief Jen Zulkiple Kassim said in an interview ahead of the 84th anniversary of the Tentera Darat today (March 1, 2017).

The government signed the LOI for the ex-US National Guard M109s at the DSA 2016 and it was envisaged that the contract would be signed before year end. For more on the plans to purchase the SPHs go here. Zulkiple said although the SPH would be transferred to Malaysia for free, the cost for transporting and upgrading the vehicles were still beyond the current budget. The decision to defer the M109s was the same as the cancelled Brunei Blackhawk deal.

Fortunately, the other contracts signed at DSA 2016 like the FAST ballistic helmets and simulator system are going ahead as confirmed by Zulkiple.
US Army cadets train with the DSTS system during Cadet Summer Training 2015 at Fort Knox, Ky. The DSTS is now operational with the Army.

As for the MD Helicopters MD530G light scout attack helicopter contract, Zulkiple confirmed that the aircraft will be delivered by year-end or in early 2018. .

The Army Air Wing will also be receiving 12 Nuri helicopters from RMAF an increase of two more from the original plan, first announced in 2010. Four Nuris are already operational with the PUTD with another four expected to be delivered this year while the extra ones are expected in 2018. No decision has been made on whether these Nuris will be fitted with digital cockpits planned for RMAF’s aircraft.

The army chief also confirmed that the Ready to Deploy Battalion is the unit promised by the Prime Minister for future peacekeeping operations under the United Nations banner.

As for the Gempita 8X8 APC, Zulkiple – in a reply to written questions from Malaysian Defence – will be delivered in stages until 2020. He declined to reveal the numbers already delivered but stated that it was according to the schedule.

He however declined to identify the units that will operate the Gempitas apart that it will be one mechanised and two armor units.
Gempita AFV30 variant of 1 Kor Armor Di Raja seen at the Kuantan airbase at the PAT first order on Jan 24, 2017.

For the record, Malaysian Defence had reported that the 19th Royal Malay Regiment (Mechanised) and 1 Kor Armor Di Raja are operating the Gempitas though the latter has just transitioned to the 8X8s only recently.

Zulkiple also declined to name the units operating the Lipanbara and the numbers already delivered. He however confirmed that the Dillon M134D mini-gun is the primary weapon of the vehicles.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/army-day-2017/
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 1 2017, 10:39 AM)
Chinook can land anywhere

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this one landed on the sand dune next to Penang Bridge yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133...&type=3&theater
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promo chinook ahead of lima?

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 1 2017, 11:23 AM)
Looking at Penang Kini FB comment
some of the netizen angry that the exericse held up the traffic..

bukan everidey pun jam ka atas Jambatan
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typical obnoxious,self entitled penang pipu. worse than bangso syurgo pipu

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