Indonesian Air Force new AW101 helicopter. Photo: cliphistory.

wish our army can get there helicopter too.

most of the time they are operating in their former african colonies, which has limited infra to support heavy tracked vehicle

oso, french are also less reliant on supply chain and most of the time they have to operate for days/weeks without proper logistical support (beyond occasional food/ammo/medic resupply by helicopter). operation serval really shows how the frenchies roll

heheehe

NZ could Host Singapore's Fighter Jets at Ohakea



Singapore is eying Ohakea air base in Manawatu as a potential base for one of its own Air Force squadrons of F15 fighter jets.

Up to 500 people would be stationed in or near the base in the region.



Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee confirmed that the Singapore Government in undertaking a feasibility study to determine what the move would entail, including housing and education needs of family.

That study needed to be completed before any proposal could be put before the Singapore or New Zealand Governments.

Brownlee said that Singapore's position in Southeast Asia so close to Malaysia and near Indoesia meant that air space was very tight.

"New Zealand doesn't have the same congestion so the opportunity to fly more freely clearly exists at Ohakea."



The Singapore Air Force has other overseas bases, in France, the United States and in Western Australia's Pearce Air Base where a squadron is based.

Brownlee suggested the benefits to New Zealand would be strategic and economic.

"It would mean there would be up to 500 people based out of Ohakea in the Manawatu region so that has a big economic effect on the local community," he told the Weekend Herald.

"But the benefit of strengthening the strategic alliance with Singapore is the most important aspect."

Brownlee said there was deadline by which the proposal needed to be considered by but he expected that it was approved, could take a couple of years to establish.

Singapore and New Zealand have a longstanding defence relationship. The New Zealand Army stationed a battalion in Singapore for 20 years until 1989. And both are members of the Five Power Defence Arrangement along with Britain, Australia and Malaysia.




New Zealand's combat arm of the Ari Force was axed in 2001 by the Helen Clark-led Labour Government.

Asked if the Singapore proposal might be a way for New Zealand to re-establish a combat arm, Brownlee said "definitely not."

"It would be a Singapore operation entirely but based at Ohakea."

He did not know how many aircraft would be involved but a squadron is usually between 12 and 24 aircraft.

Singapore has F15s in New Zealand at present to take part in an Air Force Tattoo at Ohakea this weekend.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article....jectid=11807172

how about gempita add new varian with Oto Melera Hitfact 105mm/52 calibre



This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 25 2017, 09:15 PM

http://www.janes.com/article/67998/long-li...eopard-idex17d3

shud be possible bit i dun think it would happens as atm ady abandon the big calibre stuff
though i do wanna see if they could mount howitzers on it to be a sph though that would be pretty overkill

your picture is 155mm gun is too oversize for Gempita

Gempita with Oto Melera 105 gun look well balance ratio gun/body size。 as many other country 8x8 amour mount 105-120mm gun too.


no sure how long our army will get SPH。
just Gempita more simple solution for bigger calliber before SPH... since we have best road network, and "Jalan parit" "jalan kelapa sawit" should be good enough for our 8x8 pass trough.
why atm ady abandon the big calibre stuff ? caliber too cost ? or too big for our army personal to take?

This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 26 2017, 12:37 PM

It would be must easier to work based on fnss and pt on indonesia medium tank concept. Joint in development of the medium tank since we already worked with them before

But again with gempita budget still draining the army wallet, doubt so anytime. I was told the army are avoiding the concept of mounting big gun onto small tanks since the skorpian with 90 gun which again a hear say that it have to stop to fire and if firing side way may topple the tanks.

But the fnss medium is a really tracked medium tank with proven turret design. So it might get our army interested again on medium tanks where mbt might be an overkilled.

This post has been edited by thpace: Feb 26 2017, 10:58 AM

It such thing were to exist, the likely contender would be cockerill with their CT'CV105mm turret like the one used in skorpian and fnss medium tank design

French had bad recent experience in Africa when they found their wheeled mech infantry outgunned by super-technicals armed with 23mm or even (rarely) 37mm cannon. Hence why suddenly they reversed the trend of leaving 105mm cannon for 40mm

These are examples used by ISIS: 37mm AA and 57mm AT (!)

i already said the 105mm cannon shud be possible as fnss pars ady market it as a future variant (2nd row 3rd from the left)


the picture is 155mm howitzer gun on 8x8 as my take on the sph howitzer on 8x8 is just a some sort of aspiration if they could truly make it happens
105-120mm gun cannon although it can be used in indirect-fire support role can only reach range of 8-10km compared to actual 155mm sph range that can reach 30km+

pretty much everyone that ady experience the "big calibre" ady abandon it as the infantry grunts firepower grew with rpg or other types of anti-tank weapons
the grunts could deliver the same punch with rpg7 and the smaller calibre 25mm/30mm cannon can benefit from faster auto fire and larger ammo storage

This post has been edited by DDG_Ross: Feb 26 2017, 06:16 AM

that why France Nexter come out Nexter jaguar EBRC 40mm soon for army.。。？

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IDEX 2017 - FNSS Kaplan NGAFV.



https://twitter.com/Bubenimbabam/status/832954808051052544

Read they're thinking of fitting a 120mm gun on it. Can't find where perhaps a direct-fire antitank variant, because Jaguar is going to replace 2 vehicles, a recon vehicle and ERC 90mm.

Leclerc and Leopard also want to upgun to 130mm IINM?

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Feb 26 2017, 01:58 PM

I don't hold faith in today's gun-armed tank destroyer concepts. They don't have the ability anymore. In WW2 tank destroyers had much better-quality guns that outgun and outrange most contemporary tank guns. This made them hold the advantage in stand-off combat with regular tanks.

For example while both the M1 Sherman and M10 Wldcat was armed with a 75mm gun, the M10 Wildcat was armed with a long-barreled 75mm gun derived from an anti-aircraft weapon. This gun had better range and muzzle velocity than the Sherman tank's gun.

What advantage does a modern tank destroyer's gun have with the MBTs it is supposed to be destroying? An ATGM has better range, accuracy and guaranteed kill rates than any gun. Reviving the gun-armed tank destroyer concept is like reviving the static anti-tank gun in this day and age.

I imagine the concept of an assault gun nowadays as an infantry support weapon still has currency, but the role is far different from destroying armored tanks.

Australia, Indonesia restore full military ties, see progress on trade



SYDNEY: Australia and Indonesia said on Sunday that full military ties between the two countries had been restored, after Indonesia’s military suspended cooperation in January because of "insulting" teaching material found at an Australian base.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull made the announcement alongside Indonesian President Joko Widodo, who arrived in Australia on Saturday for his first visit as president.

“President Widodo and I have agreed to full restoration of defence cooperation, training exchanges and activities,” Turnbull said at a news conference in Sydney.

Widodo’s visit to Australia comes less than two months after military ties were suspended, an event that sparked a minor diplomatic spat and led to an apology from Australia’s army chief in February. Military cooperation between the two countries has ranged from joint training and counterterrorism cooperation to border protection.

The “insulting” material suggested that Indonesia's Papua province should be independent and mocked the nation's state ideology.



Indonesia and Australia have a history of patchy ties, but both leaders were keen on Sunday to emphasise their commitment to a strong relationship.

“That robust relationship can be established when both countries have respect for each other’s territorial integrity, non-interference into the domestic affairs of each other and the ability to develop a mutually beneficial partnership,” Widodo said.

While the primary focus of the visit was on security and economic issues, including the finalisation of a bilateral free trade deal by the end of the year, talks touched on tourism, cyber security and social links.

Widodo met Australian business leaders on Saturday, telling them that investor confidence in Indonesia was strong and reassuring them that Indonesia was a stable country in which to do business.

Following one-on-one talks, Turnbull said tariffs would be cut for Australian sugar and Indonesian pesticides and herbicides. He also praised changes to the export rules for live Australian cattle.

Two-way trade between Australia and Indonesia was worth US$15.3 billion in 2015-16, according to Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Widodo said he was confident that a free trade deal would be finalised this year.



“I have conveyed to Prime Minister Turnbull some of the key issues," he said. "First, is the removal of barriers to trade, tariffs and non-tariffs for Indonesian products such as Indonesia’s paper and palm oil."

Widodo told The Australian newspaper this week he would like to see joint patrols with Australia in the South China Sea if they did not further inflame tensions with China.

China - which claims almost the entire sea region - irked Indonesia last year by saying the two countries had "overlapping claims" to waters close to them, an area Indonesia calls the Natuna Sea.

The leaders stopped short of announcing joint patrols on Sunday, but stressed the importance of resolving disputes peacefully and in accordance to international law.

“As maritime nations and trading nations, Australia and Indonesia are natural partners with common interests,” Turnbull said.

Collaboration on counterterrorism, especially the return of foreign fighters from the Syrian and Iraq conflict zone, would continue, Turnbull said.

(Reporting by Harry Pearl; Editing by Kim Coghill)

- Reuters