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post Jun 7 2017, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 7 2017, 09:50 PM)
How do we get the interest from CMF? Do we buy low and sell high, since CMF is a variable-priced fund?
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CMF NAV price will keep increasing. devil.gif It never drops.
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:01 PM

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uob e acc have change T&C ...LATEST ANNOUNCEMENTS
http://www1.uob.com.my/announcement-revise...tes-280417.html
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 7 2017, 09:30 PM)
I believe best choice is Eastspring Investments Islamic Income Fund, but minimum deposit is RM 10000
Second would be Pacific Cash Fund, but T+5.
Third would be RHB Money Market Fund.
Fourth would be RHB Cash Management Fund 2.

Third and fourth is good choice.  icon_idea.gif
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Was informed that will get Phillip Money Market Fund within same day if redeem before 10:30am and your account for fund transfer is with Maybank.
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 7 2017, 09:50 PM)
How do we get the interest from CMF? Do we buy low and sell high, since CMF is a variable-priced fund?
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i am wondering the same, but i looked into the price history of a random CMF, it seems the price has never dropped (?)
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jun 7 2017, 10:05 PM)
Was informed that will get Phillip Money Market Fund within same day if redeem before 10:30am and your account for fund transfer is with Maybank.
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According to their fund factsheet, withdrawal must be done before 9.30 a.m. Btw, what's the return?
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00052017_fs.pdf
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(galaxynote259 @ Jun 7 2017, 10:18 PM)
i am wondering the same, but i looked into the price history of a random CMF, it seems the price has never dropped (?)
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This line chart also represent the price of your nasi lemak, i.e inflation. It will only go up. If your money in savings account, the line is going horizontal, need around 3-4% to break even with the increasing line chart of your nasi lemak. icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 7 2017, 10:21 PM)
This line chart also represent the price of your nasi lemak, i.e inflation. It will only go up. If your money in savings account, the line is going horizontal, need around 3-4% to break even with the increasing line chart of your nasi lemak.  icon_idea.gif
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Not true. See this page.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/m...slowing-economy

It's Singapore newspaper.
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:25 PM)
Not true. See this page.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/m...slowing-economy

It's Singapore newspaper.
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You mean should be higher than 3-4% ?
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:18 PM)
According to their fund factsheet, withdrawal must be done before 9.30 a.m. Btw, what's the return?
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00052017_fs.pdf
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As per Fs, 3.5%
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 7 2017, 10:38 PM)
You mean should be higher than 3-4% ?
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Well official inflation is always lower than % increase in cost of living. However official inflation spike to 5.1% in March. Not sure what's the rate for April. So you can imagine % increase in cost of living.

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jun 7 2017, 10:43 PM)
As per Fs, 3.5%
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From eUT page, annualised performance seem to be poor at 1-2%. Am I missing something?

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 7 2017, 10:45 PM
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 09:54 PM)
CMF NAV price will keep increasing.  devil.gif It never drops.
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So, is this how we calculate the interest from CMF?

Percentage of interest = (Selling Price - Buying Price) / Buying Price x 100%

Any reason for increasing NAV of CMF? confused.gif

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 7 2017, 10:46 PM)
So, is this how we calculate the interest from CMF?

Percentage of interest = (Selling Price - Buying Price) / Buying Price x 100%

Any reason for increasing NAV of CMF?  :confused:
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Guess so. FSM will show you the ROI of the fund. So no need to pening kepala go and calculate

Because the fund invest in FD and since when can you lose money with FD. It's not stocks where NAV is determined by the price of stocks.
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post Jun 8 2017, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 7 2017, 10:21 PM)
This line chart also represent the price of your nasi lemak, i.e inflation. It will only go up. If your money in savings account, the line is going horizontal, need around 3-4% to break even with the increasing line chart of your nasi lemak.  icon_idea.gif
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Your savings account gives you 0% hence horizontal line?
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post Jun 8 2017, 01:25 AM

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I got a FSM account now and I'm so lost with this CFM thingy... rclxub.gif No wonder my Finance paper in university was my worst results, I just cannot comprehend those figures. sweat.gif

Never mind. I gave up on it. Any eFD option to replace GIA-i? If instant withdrawal is not possible, at least one month lo.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 8 2017, 01:25 AM)
I got a FSM account now and I'm so lost with this CFM thingy... rclxub.gif No wonder my Finance paper in university was my worst results, I just cannot comprehend those figures. sweat.gif

Never mind. I gave up on it. Any eFD option to replace GIA-i? If instant withdrawal is not possible, at least one month lo.. sweat.gif
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Here you go.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...Fund-2-MYOSKCMF

You don't need to know how it work. Just put your money with them. Few days before cc payment date, make a withdrawal (before 3pm or else withdrawal will be move to next day) and wait 2 daya before money will appear back in your account. You just need ro know your money have increased thumbup.gif

Well if you want the technicals, they invest in short term fix deposit. Profits made from FDs are what give the increase in NAV over time.

QUOTE(galaxynote259 @ Jun 8 2017, 12:37 AM)
Your savings account gives you 0% hence horizontal line?
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Most savings account give close to 0%. 0.1-0.3%

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post Jun 8 2017, 02:19 PM

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If those that prefer liquidity, perhaps should consider go back to m2u savers account.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 8 2017, 07:24 AM)
Here you go.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...Fund-2-MYOSKCMF

You don't need to know how it work. Just put your money with them. Few days before cc payment date, make a withdrawal (before 3pm or else withdrawal will be move to next day) and wait 2 daya before money will appear back in your account. You just need ro know your money have increased thumbup.gif

Well if you want the technicals, they invest in short term fix deposit. Profits made from FDs are what give the increase in NAV over time.
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Thanks for assisting and I don't wanna OT so much, I will go to FSM thread if I want to.
Really appreciate your help, I just dropped RM 700 to have a feel how it works before shifting my fund there. tongue.gif

QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 8 2017, 02:19 PM)
If those that prefer liquidity, perhaps should consider go back to m2u savers account.
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Yes, that's what I thought of too but need minimum RM 2k to generate interest. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 8 2017, 02:19 PM)
If those that prefer liquidity, perhaps should consider go back to m2u savers account.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 8 2017, 02:29 PM)
Thanks for assisting and I don't wanna OT so much, I will go to FSM thread if I want to.
Really appreciate your help, I just dropped RM 700 to have a feel how it works before shifting my fund there. tongue.gif
Yes, that's what I thought of too but need minimum RM 2k to generate interest. tongue.gif
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Well that's a good start.

If really want to use M2Savers, better option would be OCBC 360.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 29 2017, 08:11 PM)
From my understanding it includes interbank transfer to CASA as bill payment too. I have done multiple interbank transfer using IBFT since the beginning of this month from my OCBC 360 account since the start of the free Instant Transfer. We should know the result in a few days time.
This is indeed like Maybank GIA. Can we do everything online though ?
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Have you checked your bonus interest for OCBC 360? Does IBFT count as bill payment?

For people who do not have any credit card or not eligible to apply for one, can consider OCBC 360-i Account (islamic version of OCBC 360 account). Can get up to 4.1% p.a. if fulfill all the conditions. Instead of spending RM500 on credit card, one needs to spend RM500 on debit card to get the bonus interest of 1.2%.


QUOTE(jfleong @ Jun 5 2017, 10:48 AM)
It's supposed to be 1k right?
10k is only for the promo, right?
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It's supposed to be 1k only according to the website but for some reason, the system will only allow min. 10k placement. 1k placement only valid for 2-12 months placement. Can still try to place for 12 months to get 3.25% p.a. after 16/6. I believe can still withdraw without penalty if placed before 1/8.


QUOTE(dasecret @ Jun 5 2017, 11:05 AM)
It's a bit naive to think there would be a bank run that could hurt the bank immediately for something like this

Actually Maybank's announcement ahead of time serves a few purposes
- Good transparency and disclosure - no one can condemn they just change policy overnight even if they have the legal right to do so
- budget and plan their cashflow accordingly. Do you think they would make such announcement if they need this money desperately? Just like FD promos, they have promos because they need the funds. When they don't need, they don't do promo lor.
- So they already anticipate a mass withdrawal; but the policy made it still attractive to depositors to make placements prior to 1 August and only take out when the cashflow need arise. So really, I don't foresee a big bank run until or unless another bank introduce a similar product with the same accessibility. Maybank2U after all is a very superior and popular product within msia consumer banking segment, not many banks can compete in that sense

There's some very good strategists in Maybank I must say  notworthy.gif
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Actually, banks are required to disclose any changes to their T&Cs with 21 days prior notice. I do not know if it is a BNM requirement or industry standard but most banks would follow this practice.


QUOTE(Nemozai @ Jun 7 2017, 09:30 PM)
I believe best choice is Eastspring Investments Islamic Income Fund, but minimum deposit is RM 10000
Second would be Pacific Cash Fund, but T+5.
Third would be RHB Money Market Fund.
Fourth would be RHB Cash Management Fund 2.

Third and fourth is good choice.  icon_idea.gif
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Other good options to consider: -

i) Affin Hwang Aiiman Money Market - min 5k, last year's return 4.xx%
ii) KAF Money Market Fund - min 1k

These two funds are not available through Fundsupermart but can be purchased through eUnitTrust.

Do note that not all money market funds are exactly alike. Some only invest in bank deposits like RHB Cash Management Fund 2, while others like Pacific Cash Fund invest heavily into short-term bonds. Hence the return and volatility would be different among them.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:43 PM)
Well official inflation is always lower than % increase in cost of living. However official inflation spike to 5.1% in March. Not sure what's the rate for April. So you can imagine % increase in cost of living.
From eUT page, annualised performance seem to be poor at 1-2%. Am I missing something?
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Pacific Master Money Market Fund is a fixed price fund, so the NAV would not change at all. The distribution is on a monthly basis. In this case, the distribution really matters cause that is the return of the fund. I think this is the closest equivalent to GIA as far as money market funds are concerned. You put the money there, at the end of the calendar month, you get the distribution (equivalent to profit). Unlike GIA though, you will not get the profit immediately upon withdrawal.

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Jun 8 2017, 05:06 PM)
Have you checked your bonus interest for OCBC 360? Does IBFT count as bill payment?

For people who do not have any credit card or not eligible to apply for one, can consider OCBC 360-i Account (islamic version of OCBC 360 account). Can get up to 4.1% p.a. if fulfill all the conditions. Instead of spending RM500 on credit card, one needs to spend RM500 on debit card to get the bonus interest of 1.2%.
It's supposed to be 1k only according to the website but for some reason, the system will only allow min. 10k placement. 1k placement only valid for 2-12 months placement. Can still try to place for 12 months to get 3.25% p.a. after 16/6. I believe can still withdraw without penalty if placed before 1/8.
Actually, banks are required to disclose any changes to their T&Cs with 21 days prior notice. I do not know if it is a BNM requirement or industry standard but most banks would follow this practice.
Other good options to consider: -

i) Affin Hwang Aiiman Money Market - min 5k, last year's return 4.xx%
ii) KAF Money Market Fund - min 1k

These two funds are not available through Fundsupermart but can be purchased through eUnitTrust.

Do note that not all money market funds are exactly alike. Some only invest in bank deposits like RHB Cash Management Fund 2, while others like Pacific Cash Fund invest heavily into short-term bonds. Hence the return and volatility would be different among them. 
Pacific Master Money Market Fund is a fixed price fund, so the NAV would not change at all. The distribution is on a monthly basis. In this case, the distribution really matters cause that is the return of the fund. I think this is the closest equivalent to GIA as far as money market funds are concerned. You put the money there, at the end of the calendar month, you get the distribution (equivalent to profit). Unlike GIA though, you will not get the profit immediately upon withdrawal.
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Will check it out. For the 360-i right, can open at any branch? Or just branches with Al-Amin ?


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