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post Nov 17 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Nov 17 2016, 02:41 PM)
In the same link...

"Under VPCM’s custody, the Volkswagen brand will look to refocus its attention to higher-specced cars such as the Passat rather than chase sheer volume as they did under the brand's previous management.

Steiner said that VPCM is aiming for a steadier path of growth and is not currently looking to sell more than 10,000 cars annually."
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It will be interesting to see how this new management can restore the company's image again.
2017 will be a year for Volkswagen to work hard and if it's done right, the brand image can be restored in 2018 and thereafter.

They are going for the right direction when the main focus is not sheer volume thumbsup.gif
R&D and after-sales service are the things they need to focus on right now.
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:22 PM

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The Passat 2.0 version is quite reliable. It shares the same engine and drivetrain as the mk7 GTI and there isn't much negativity about the mk7 Golf GTI.


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post Nov 18 2016, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(BlackWoods @ Nov 17 2016, 02:27 PM)
We'll see that when they suffer from low sales volume.
They actually screwed up all previous buyers by giving so much discount on the older generations previously.
Now they give people the perception and expectation of "I'll buy it when they give heavy discount".

This B8 Passat is quite the deciding factor of the fate for Volkswagen Malaysia.
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Certainly a valid point. Most people who are eyeing this Passat B8 but not in a hurry to get the car may wait for the price to come down, expecting a huge slash in price just like what that has happened with the previous "sales" earlier this year. Current VW owners who bought their cars before this big slash in price are certainly an angry lot. A friend who owns the VW is calling the previous VW management or salesmen a crazy bunch for giving such high discounts that affect the resale value of the cars. The damage has been done, and with this new announcement that there will not be any huge discounts for the Passat B8, it will be a "Test Period" for VW to see whether sales for the Passat B8 will pick up.

VW are smart to announce that they are not aiming for large volume sales for the Passat B8. I think they would have expected that the demand wouldn't be high with the pricing they have set for the cars, and the issue with huge discounts previously given that may have caused potential buyers to hold back from buying the car and wait for the next round of discounts. Since the car is assembled locally in Pahang, I don't think they would have any problems coping with production(large volume sales), that if the demand is good. In other words, it is not that they want to do low volume sales with the Passat. It's just that they are expecting a low demand/sales with the car.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Nov 18 2016, 08:41 AM
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:23 AM

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Thats a new management in da house. Hopefully they will sort out the after sales service. It doesn't matter how great their product is if they have shit service and attitude all down the drain.
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:15 PM

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VW's sold only 203 cars in Oct, down 50% from Sept. How to push sales without attractive discount? Especially when consumers are wary of VW's reputation now.

Anyway if you want a good discount wait 3 years and buy second hand. You can probably get 50% discount! This sort of car better let the first owner take the depreciation hit first.
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 18 2016, 09:15 PM)
VW's sold only 203 cars in Oct, down 50% from Sept. How to push sales without attractive discount? Especially when consumers are wary of VW's reputation now.

Anyway if you want a good discount wait 3 years and buy second hand. You can probably get 50% discount! This sort of car better let the first owner take the depreciation hit first.
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I'm also thinking along that line. This car (B8 Highline) will be a steal at RM100K in 3 years with another 2 years warranty to go.


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post Nov 18 2016, 10:40 PM

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Saw the car today and it looks so much nicer in flesh.
Damn if only the price is more affordable I would love to have the 2.0

I am a person who don't like to put so much money on cars but this car is so tempting.
To be exact,OTR price for Highline is RM207,029.90 (Comfortline RM186,788.45 and Trendline RM166,237.25)

Like the others, not going to rush in and buy one.
Pretty sure VW sees our comment here and if you are listening sell the highline at 165K and rest assure you can "tapau" all the other Japanese D segment cars.
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post Nov 19 2016, 12:15 AM

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They say that they don't want to chase sales but if they only sold 203 cars in October, they will struggle to keep the dealerships open.

There is no market for a RM200k D segment car here. Look at the Mondeo, it's a great car. It sells brilliantly in the UK but you would struggle to find 10 on the roads of KL. The Peugeot 508 is in the same boat although I'm sure Peugeot must be offering big discounts on the 508 by now. The Mazda 6 diesel is priced around there but sales are slower than the last 5 minutes on a wet Friday in work.

There is a market at the high end for BMWs and Mercs at RM300k or more for their D segment offerings and a market for D segment cars like the Camry and Accord at around RM150k but there isn't much in the middle.

So either VW offer steep discounts to price their cars to get the price much closer to the Japanese or they start shutting down dealerships and accept a bit part role in Malaysia's car market.
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post Nov 19 2016, 06:17 AM

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Dont rush to buy passat or VW. Listen to me.. need to wait. Maybe after 1 year or 2 years.

Later, they throw price like mad.. im the one who cannot sell my car due to they throwing the price very low.

Imaging, previously b7 passat price is at 180k.. later discount around 150k. You can get around 135k prereg. Early 2016 they throw price for new register 2015 car at 115k.hmmmmm.. pity old customer
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post Nov 19 2016, 09:14 AM

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If the VW new management wants to adopt a policy of not giving big discounts they should price the Passat B8 competitively. Now it seems they want to have their cake and eat it too.

Anyway here's a Malaysian review.



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post Nov 19 2016, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 19 2016, 06:17 AM)
Dont rush to buy passat or VW. Listen to me.. need to wait. Maybe after 1 year or 2 years.

Later, they throw price like mad.. im the one who cannot sell my car due to they throwing the price very low.

Imaging, previously b7 passat price is at 180k.. later discount around 150k. You can get around 135k prereg. Early 2016 they throw price for new register 2015 car at 115k.hmmmmm.. pity old customer
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I believe they start throwing the price due to upcoming B8 and having said that they should have been more tactful.
By the way do your Jetta face any DSG issue?

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post Nov 19 2016, 11:59 PM

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[quote=Ginny88,Nov 19 2016, 09:14 AM]
If the VW new management wants to adopt a policy of not giving big discounts they should price the Passat B8 competitively. Now it seems they want to have their cake and eat it too.

Well said and I wonder what happen to EEV incentive?


The SA that I met claims there won't be any huge discounts anymore cause VW produces according to demand to avoid any overstock situation.

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post Nov 20 2016, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Nov 19 2016, 11:59 PM)

Well said and I wonder what happen to EEV incentive?
The SA that I met claims there won't be any huge discounts anymore cause VW produces according to demand to avoid any overstock situation.
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I presume the B8 Passat will be CKD? It's hard to produce such low volume for CKD vehicles. For CBU you can import any number you want.

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post Nov 20 2016, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Nov 19 2016, 11:52 PM)
I believe they start throwing the price due to upcoming B8 and having said that they should have been more tactful.
By the way do your Jetta face any DSG issue?
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Clutch claim once.. mecha not yet..
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post Nov 20 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 20 2016, 02:33 PM)
Clutch claim once.. mecha not yet..
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How much to replace both after warranty?
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post Nov 20 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 20 2016, 06:36 PM)
How much to replace both after warranty?
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Clutch 3.5k-4k
Mecha 7k-8k
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post Nov 20 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 20 2016, 06:41 PM)
Clutch 3.5k-4k
Mecha 7k-8k
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Would you recommend stay away from dry clutch, if looking at used car? Wet should be no problem,right?
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post Nov 20 2016, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 20 2016, 07:04 PM)
Would you recommend stay away from dry clutch, if looking at used car? Wet should be no problem,right?
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Wet clutch.

1000 car maybe 1 car kena..

Dry clutch

1000 car maybe 900 car kena below 2 years. 100 car kena after 3 years
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post Nov 20 2016, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 20 2016, 07:13 PM)
Wet clutch.

1000 car maybe 1 car kena..

Dry clutch

1000 car maybe 900 car kena below 2 years. 100 car kena after 3 years
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Tks for the advice bro!
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post Nov 22 2016, 02:07 PM

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So anyone went for test drive?

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