According to carbase.my a 2103 Golf 2.0 GTi is 53% of its new price.

OK, so the Carbase.my estimate is way out? Anyway a Passat doesn't have the same second hand value as a Golf GTi. For Conti cars even for luxury makes a 40%-50% drop in value after 3 years is not unusual. Nobody knows what the value of a B8 Passat will be in 3 years time but I'm fairly confident it will fall within this 40%-50% depreciation range.

Are those adaptive dampers which cost ton of money to replace?

As far as I am aware, one pc about RM2-2.5k.

How many km do they last? This is one reason why Passat will never have good second hand value. Maintenance cost is a huge factor for 2nd hand car buyers.

This post has been edited by Ginny88: Nov 25 2016, 09:41 AM

handling for sport mode how is it?

Must test drive one day and compare with the B7.

No, but how did you assign meaning to what I did not say? This is the problem with flawed comprehension assuming that something is implied when it is not implied.



This post has been edited by Ginny88: Nov 25 2016, 10:25 AM

That is the problem with assigning your own meaning to what is not implied.

To make it clear I did not say that Passat 1.8 will have good second hand value just because it does not have adaptive dampers. There is more to maintenance than dampers.

I am not quite sure, I think the road condition (of day-to-day life) and drivers habit play a big part.

I read somewhere in this forum that someone Passat CC adaptive dampers spoiled and replaced within 4 years, 8-9k spent. Personally I have a closed cousin who bought a Audi TTS 2010 last year, and he replaced 2 rear shocks (with DCC) just 2-3 months ago at RM5k.

So I would say below 100k km, or about 5 years, on average.

If can change to conventional dampers like killalthemods say Ok la. Hopefully the ECU won't get a fit!

That is possible, but prior to that you need to get a bypass chip/sensor to cheat the ECU or system that the car is fitted with DCC. Else Chk Engine Light will turn on.

Secondly, there will be a trade off on ride quality, if you choose a fixed damper absorbers which is lean towards comfort, you lose the handling. Vice versa. No perfect solution.

Giving up the DCC is fine. How often do you adjust anyway? Either you like handling or comfort and you leave it at that. Alternatively keep one set for handling and one set for comfort and change as you like.

feel cheap compared to what brand and model?

never sat in the new passat but the f30 3 series interior is pretty mediocre for me. reviews of the new passat interior so far has been good, guess i'd have to see it for myself.

Just came back from testing the 2.0. Didn't test for the 1.8 because of the famous dsg dry clutch problem, so i didn't bother to check at all. Here are my opinions:-

1. Power is stunning for d-segment but lacks a bit of sharpness & response of the Golf GTI maybe because of the different tuning.
2. Handling is top notch for a front wheel drive car of this size. i would say it's the same league as the Mazda 6.
3. Ride is a bit firm for the class even when the DCC is set to comfort but it rides like a german conti-like which is more to nice rather than comfortable.
4. Sound insulation is comparable to camry but tire noise is very audible but not as bad as the accord.
5. Buttons, switchgears and door thunk felt unusually cheap for a VW. Golf is definitely a better-built car.
6. Massaging driver seat function is not that intense but it's nice to have for the class.
7. Lane Assist works ok lahh but merc's system is superior. And for that i would rather have blind spot monitoring & automatic braking.
8. Park Assist works really well with proper roadline but honestly this technology is still slow so better park yourself.

My verdict is i'd skip this and wait for facelift because there's a new powertrain coming if observed from the Golf facelift with new infotainment & improved safety features. This passat was launched too late for our market. Price, i think it's worth every penny IF AND ONLY IF the aftersale service & resale value is good.

Really? I felt BMW 318 & 320 also biasa biasa only on both interior & performance. Normal Jetta performance pun can sometime beat it. 330i performance on the other hand is good but the price is even higher.

Nope. it was launched way back in july 2014. End of that year, VGM demo-ed the new passat and stated that it will launched end of last year but due to testing purpose(i hope they didn't lie), it delayed a year later which is now. Facelift normally should come averagely in 3-ish years for german automakers. But the golf facelift came after 4 years probably because of the scandals. So i'm predicting the passat facelift should appear late next year.

The real reason why the Passat B8 launch was delayed was to clear the overhang of unsold Passat B7.

It's not about changing the setting. The DCC in comfort is usually more comfortable than the regular suspension setup.

@s65amg: How is the Merc system superior?

I'm not a big fan of the new infotainment system. What I've seen so far seem inferior to the one it replaces, at least for the Discover Pro unit. They removed buttons I use all the time, just to make the screen a tiny bit larger. I don't have a problem with the screen size. I have driven several cars with such purely touchscreen infotainment systems, and they suck. You can't use them blindly, and on bumpy roads you are completely lost. The bumps will send your finger all over the screen, just not where you want to press. Plus you're constantly looking at the screen, which is dangerous. Heck, even the volume knob is replaced by a touch area. What the hell? Fortunately there are buttons for that on the steering wheel, but still. Oh, and the old Discover Pro has a matte screen, while the new one seems glossy. How practical... not.

I usually switch from NAV to CAR once in a while to check the average fuel consumption for the trip... on my car I move my hand to the side, push a button which I can find without looking, done. Quick glance, then move the finger 2 buttons up and I'm back to the NAV screen. On the new system? Press Menu (which is only marked visually, so you have to look). Search for the right item. Press that. Then Menu again, search for the right item... Yeah, there is gesture control, but it remains to be seen how well that works. And even if it does work well, how is it easier than pushing a button?

Want to check what music I'm listening to? Press NAV again, and there's an overlay for the current music. NAV, and it's gone. No idea how the new system is going to do that. Want to zoom out of the map to get some orientation? Turn the knob on the right. And back. Yes, there is pinch to zoom support, but really, the knob works so much better.

And on, and on, and on. Lookswise it's an improvement, and it looks cooler. But in real life I'd bet the old system works better.