I just got to know about this all-new Volkswagen Passat from a Paul Tan review. http://paultann.org/2016/11/01/b8-volkswag...ed-in-malaysia/ (delete n from paultann to access link)

Does anyone know the price range for all 3 models of the Passat? The high-spec 2.0 Passat comes with a wet dual-clutch while the lower models come with dry dual-clutch. Reviews look good for this D-segment. Not too sure if there are other issues that plague the existing Volkswagen models, or the after-sales service.

The Volkswagen Malaysia website has omitted the Passat from their page to make way for the new model. Apparently there is a Passat road show in Mid Valley megamall now as I write this. Has anyone seen the car in Mid valley?

Alternatively you might like this.. CarList.

Passat Review
Passat

Price expected to be between 150K to Close 200K.
If I were you I'll be patience for at least a year.

Lowest spec hope it will be close to Accord low spec about 140k..

With Jetta's aggressive pricing, all variations are lower than Honda Civic now.. (due to Jetta EEV incentive) .. Passat likely to be benefited from EEV too..
Oversea's Passat 1.8tsi FC rate at 14.2km/L, about 7L/100km, just meeting the EEV requirement for D-segment..

The only odd one out is the turbo 2.0 which might close to 200k..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 6 2016, 02:13 PM

does new passat bigger than before . old passat looks like as big as honda civic /altis interior

New Passat shorter, lower but wider..
Wheel base is longer than old one thus larger interior space

To put into perspective, The new Passat size is between Accord n Civic

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 6 2016, 03:10 PM

Civic also eev

If you have the budget already, 2.0 turbo is the best choice as they comes with the gearbox with wet clutch.

and many much more goodies.

Yes.. tat makes civic looks expensive

if the reliability is good, i think no 1 would bother with the audi a4.

At Midvalley roadshow, it has the virtual cockpit as in the TT.
Car looks good in the flesh.

This post has been edited by romuluz777: Nov 6 2016, 08:53 PM


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I'm eyeing on this Passat too, for the 2.0 wet clutch variant, as the dry clutch DSG has problem in Malaysia eh?

Considering to get it by end of 2017.

Scare of problems avoid VW as easy as that. Nuff said

I am driving a Polo TSI close to 5 years now...
I would give the Jetta and Passat another 1 or 2 years of observation before deciding which on to get..
Jetta is very affordable given the price with amount of equipment while Passat's appearance is more striking..

New cars very unlikely to get heavy discount.. VW is known for low RV, just have to make sure to get as much discount as possible before buying 1..

Dry clutch is fine, regardless it's a Jetta or passat. My ckd twin charged Jetta running absolutely fine. I never had any issues with the car. It's stock, no modifications. Very happy with it with the sheer amount of power from it's 1.4tsi engine. Obviously I take good care of it. The latest civic looks more like a fastback than a sedan, futuristic, unconventional looking tail lamps. Mazda 3 has a long hood (looks good) but it's boot is very short, hence doesn't have a sedan look. Meanwhile the Jetta looks like a real sedan, proportionate look, both front and rear, it may look 'conventional' but it's an evergreen sedan design and it's rear doesn't slope upward like the preve with a chunky rear boot.

This post has been edited by abhipraaya: Nov 6 2016, 10:59 PM

i guess there won't be CC since passat come with 2.0?

Thanks for the information and photos. From the photos on website, the new Passat surely looks good, quite a bit better than the previous Passat model especially the back. The front also looks more elegant.

A close friend has the Jetta close to 5 years now. Perhaps his was the older model but he has got into some issues which include smoke coming out from his engine compartment in which the whole engine needs to be overhauled. Not too sure what was the actual problem but it was recommended that RON97 is used instead of 95 to minimise problems. Not sure if the current Volkswagen models need to be run in RON97 for better performance or to stay out of problems?

Another issue with his Jetta is whenever moving from standstill say from the traffic lights, you can feel a slight judder in the cabin. It was said to be an inherent character of the Volkswagen with this dual clutch. It's a different type of judder/vibration compared to the Ford Focus. You only feel a slight vibration in the cabin when the car moves from standstill, for a very brief period. After the car gets moving, there won't be any more vibration when the gears are upshifting. As with the Ford Focus, there is no vibration/shuddering when moving from standstill. The shuddering or (slight) jerking with the Ford Focus only happens when the gear is upshifting or downshifting ie. 1st gear to 2nd gear, or 2nd gear to 3rd gear.

Coming back to the new Passat. Not too sure on the advantages of DRY clutch vs. WET clutch. Any thoughts? It is unfortunate that the high-spec 1.8 does not come with a wet clutch and only the high-spec 2.0 comes with one. In terms of reliability and performance, I presume the wet clutch as a slight advantage? Any support or evidence on the superiority of wet clutch compared to the dry clutch?

Yes, a valid point that the resale value of Volkswagen is very low. Hence, for those who may not be in a hurry to get the car, it may be worthwhile to wait for the "sales" period. If I am not mistaken earlier this year or late last year the Jetta was sold at about RM80-90k and the Passat was sold at RM100k+/-.

I would be more concern on after-sales service. I read that one may have to book a service appointment about 1 month in advance as there are no slots if you book 1 or 2 weeks earlier. And VW is very strict with the mileage as they will consider the warranty of the vehicle to be void if the car's mileage exceeds the recommended mileage when the car is sent in late for service. Is this true? Other car manufacturers are more relaxed in this aspect. Ford actually has 1,000 km or 1 month buffer on top of the recommended mileage/period of sending the car in for service. The owner will not be forfeited if it is still within the buffer period.

I have just read one review which mentioned that although the handling of the new Passat is good, the Ford Mondeo and Mazda 6's handling is still better than the Passat. Though I presume handling is not the main consideration for most people who are considering a D-segment although it is desirable to have a good handling car. A D-segment is more toward family outings and providing more space for passengers sitting at the back seat, thus promoting higher levels of comfort when compared to smaller and more cramped spaces of a C or B segment.

On top of that, the looks, style and image of the Passat are a step higher than most Japanese which include the Camry, Accord and Teana. In other words, it is classier to be in a Passat than in any of these Japanese. Ditto the Mercedes/BMW vs Passat where the Merc and BMW are classier and more upmarket than the Passat.

There will be a facelift next year for the B8. This car have been in the market since 2014. Malaysia just about to launch a 2 years old model.

if it's cheaper than mondeo..might be a steal.

The Ford Mondeo has a rather significant discount now, slightly below RM180k so I don't think the new Passat 2.0 high-spec will be cheaper than the Mondeo. Other than the price, it also depends on several factors. One of my colleague has test driven the Mondeo three times this year being an avid fan (though he hasn't decided to buy it yet), and he had also test driven the previous generation Passat. He likes the handling and feel of the Mondeo better (than the Passat). ALso, he mentioned that the Mondeo is a very powerful car, more powerful than the Passat on paper. Not too sure if this new Mondeo would be even more powerful but it was reported that the handling of the Passat still cannot match the Mondeo, and the Mazda 6.

Apart from power and performance in handling, there is also the interior and exterior looks also which is personal. For me, I do think the VW Passat looks better than the Mondeo in both interior and exterior. I don't quite like the interior of the Mondeo. No doubt the quality and fit and finish inside the Mondeo are superb - the nice leather seats, the fit and finish on the door panels etc. But I don't quite like the design which looks outdated. The VW Passat's interior looks classier and more tasteful, more modern.

Though Mondeo looks and feels like a huge car. The Passat looks slightly smaller. Not too sure which vehicle is roomier inside the cabin. In the end, it depends on what the user is looking for. All cars have their pros and cons.