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post Mar 9 2024, 07:56 PM

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Haven't followed pricing for a while since I got my 6750 XT, now thinking of updating my son's 570 and 590 for cheap, and.. is it me, or local prices for older radeons is back up again? I recall seeing used 6600s under $500 last year or so..

Or its just our shitty currency..?
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Anyone know which graphic card brand and model the fan does not run if idle like below 40-43'c ?
it's quiet or silent and can adjust with MSI burn to turn off the fan even on 50'c ?
For RX 6600 and below.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 18 2024, 11:09 PM)
Anyone know which graphic card brand and model the fan does not run if idle like below 40-43'c ?
it's quiet or silent and can adjust with MSI burn to turn off the fan even on 50'c ?
For RX 6600 and below.
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iirc, you can change the fan curve in the catalyst software, no need another software,

just change the fan curve that below 40c = 0
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 18 2024, 11:09 PM)
Anyone know which graphic card brand and model the fan does not run if idle like below 40-43'c ?
it's quiet or silent and can adjust with MSI burn to turn off the fan even on 50'c ?
For RX 6600 and below.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 18 2024, 11:24 PM)
iirc, you can change the fan curve in the catalyst software, no need another software,

just change the fan curve that below 40c = 0
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You can change that from the AMD software. Some GPU has quiet zone so it the fan doesn't spin when below certain temperature...so I enable the custom fan profile and set it to spin 50% above 40c
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post Apr 18 2024, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 18 2024, 11:09 PM)
Anyone know which graphic card brand and model the fan does not run if idle like below 40-43'c ?
it's quiet or silent and can adjust with MSI burn to turn off the fan even on 50'c ?
For RX 6600 and below.
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Don't worry as long your is AMD card and driver installed by default the fan setting is configure as zero RPM during idler only spin if watching YouTube or video etc after specific temperature

I have some used RX 580 card for TV steam link purpose also supported not sure if hd 7870 support or not since stock fan already long dead replace with 12 CFM double sided tape DIY thing and no longer use.

My wife and me still using 6600xt and 6750xt nitro series from sapphire but still during idle+current weather +without ac is turned on+room temperature 30c GPU can reach 49c will only started to spin above 50c+ at idler with the help of front intake 3 12 CFM statics pressure fan

Most of then time the fan barely reaching 1k RPM mostly below 900 with the help room temperature 26c with AC turned on can maintain GPU temp around 49c to 59c unless intensive game that can reach up to 65c barely hit 70c

Last year AMD link still available for smart phone for monitoring the GPU temp and fan purpose now they already obsolete no longer available due to blah blah blah reason and i quite like the idea but just sadge

All the AMD setup i use are stock setting didn't sengaja go oc or whatever everything is automatically

The temperature i show only apply to sapphire nitro series i have not sure for other GPU may have slightly different temp different due to different GPU cooler design
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 18 2024, 11:32 PM)
You can change that from the AMD software. Some GPU has quiet zone so it the fan doesn't spin when below certain temperature...so I enable the custom fan profile and set it to spin 50% above 40c
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yeah, their gpu are tuned for silent by default.
mine was vega64 and usually the fan noise is almost non existence, and most blower fan are PWM with range from 800 rpm to 6000, very easy to tune and will not have loud noise except when you boot up your pc.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2024, 12:02 AM)
yeah, their gpu are tuned for silent by default.
mine was vega64 and usually the fan noise is almost non existence, and most blower fan are PWM with range from 800 rpm to 6000, very easy to tune and will not have loud noise except when you boot up your pc.
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But it gets noisy when reaching 2k RPM.. Which is when the temperature is above 70c. I cannot tahan so I only let it run on 1.5k RPM max
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Never though will have so many reply so quickly , but the problem is I do not know which RX model or series having this function.
It's more on Pin connector.

Some RX only have yellow and black as 2 pin , then it's not possible to turn off the fan.Some have 3pin fan and some 4pin.If 4 pin it's possible but also need to check whether the card bios allow to turn off the fan.

zuozi some old card having 3-4pin and more flexible compare to current new gpu.
1024kbps as I know if gpu with 2 pin fan power connector cannot be set.

Just idle , 1080p youtube without fan running where temperature is around 38'c only.

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 19 2024, 12:38 AM)
Never though will have so many reply so quickly , but the problem is I do not know which RX model or series having this function.
It's more on Pin connector.

Some RX only have  yellow and black as 2 pin , then it's not possible to turn off the fan.Some have 3pin fan and some 4pin.If 4 pin it's possible but also need to check whether the card bios allow to turn off the fan.

zuozi some old card having 3-4pin and more flexible compare to current new gpu.
1024kbps as I know if gpu with 2 pin fan power connector cannot be set.

Just idle , 1080p youtube without fan running where temperature is around 38'c only.
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I have some left over card no longer use HD 7870 and r7 260 something also from sapphire both using 4pin , Rx 580 extra fan for pulse i have also from sapphire all i just check is 4pin

except the r7 260 i have the fan less than a year already dead because is a very entry level quality build 🙂 so just stick with 12cfm fan and control by motherboard 3 or 4pin depends what i have left over 😂

all 2pin also can speed controlled more like old ceiling fan concepts more like light dimmer concept just like old power supply mostly have only 2 pin the fan speed is controlled by this way or old day's 4 pin molex fan with optional controller at the pack of casing PCI slot
So i guess depends the GPU board have the controller or not for the software to control

Temperature part for GPU depends your casing airflow and room temperature only lowest temp card i have probably 6600xt compared to RX 580 and RX 6750
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Apr 19 2024, 11:07 AM)
I have some left over card no longer use HD 7870 and r7 260 something also from sapphire both using 4pin , Rx 580 extra fan for pulse i have also from sapphire all i just check is 4pin

except the r7 260 i have the fan less than a year already dead because is a very entry level quality build 🙂 so just stick with 12cfm fan and control by motherboard 3 or 4pin depends what i have left over 😂

all 2pin also can speed controlled more like old ceiling fan concepts more like light dimmer concept just like old power supply mostly have only 2 pin the fan speed is controlled by this way or old day's 4 pin molex fan with optional controller at the pack of casing PCI slot
So i guess depends the GPU board have the controller or not for the software to control

Temperature part for GPU depends your casing airflow and room temperature only lowest temp card i have probably 6600xt compared to RX 580 and RX 6750
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If you understand what i mean , those Mini 2pin is not possible to set to off.Only 3 speed control set by bios or own fan.You can't do anything even you plug out the mini 2 pin into a fan controller , either 30%,50%,100% or 5,12,24 only.Anything lower it'll not run.

So do you know a any fan controller a way to force set a custom fan speed like 20% 500rpm for idle ? I don't mind buying 1 fan speed device controller if can drop to 15% 300rpm.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 19 2024, 08:47 PM)
If you understand what i mean , those Mini 2pin is not possible to set to off.Only 3 speed control set by bios or own fan.You can't do anything even you plug out the mini 2 pin into a fan controller , either 30%,50%,100% or 5,12,24 only.Anything lower it'll not run.

So do you know a any fan controller a way to force set a custom fan speed like 20% 500rpm for idle ? I don't mind buying 1 fan speed device controller if can drop to 15% 300rpm.
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2/3 pins fan have minimum start up voltage, some start at 5v, high powered one usually 7v,
and 2/3 pins fan can be controlled via voltage, the only difference between them is 3rd pin is for reporting tachometer/RPM to mobo or other fan controller.

4pin pwm can be controller via voltage and pwm too.
you can have 12v 6000rpm
or 7v 4500 rpm, for example.

to override the gpu fan voltage you can use psu 7v instead of original 12v, so your fan will operate probably 25% lower speed
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005004238542471.html

or if you can get one of the speed reducer from nocuta https://www.amazon.sg/dp/B00650P2ZC?flyingspaghettimonster=emc_s_m_5_i_atc
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 19 2024, 08:47 PM)
If you understand what i mean , those Mini 2pin is not possible to set to off.Only 3 speed control set by bios or own fan.You can't do anything even you plug out the mini 2 pin into a fan controller , either 30%,50%,100% or 5,12,24 only.Anything lower it'll not run.

So do you know a any fan controller a way to force set a custom fan speed like 20% 500rpm for idle ? I don't mind buying 1 fan speed device controller if can drop to 15% 300rpm.
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Yes i understand you but the controller i mentioned just example is available they do exit for commerical but probably not available for consumer


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post Apr 19 2024, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2024, 09:56 PM)
2/3 pins fan have minimum start up voltage, some start at 5v, high powered one usually 7v,
and 2/3 pins fan can be controlled via voltage, the only difference between them is 3rd pin is for reporting tachometer/RPM to mobo or other fan controller.

4pin pwm can be controller via voltage and pwm too.
you can have 12v 6000rpm
or 7v 4500 rpm, for example.

to override the gpu fan voltage you can use psu 7v instead of original 12v, so your fan will operate probably 25% lower speed
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005004238542471.html

or if you can get one of the speed reducer from nocuta https://www.amazon.sg/dp/B00650P2ZC?flyings...emc_s_m_5_i_atc
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Yes very long long time ago my 3 pin fan only 2 wire use for PSU replacement fan psu can only plug in for 2 pin the speed and airflow just too low so i loop another together leave black wire alone results is much more better than single red wire like you said probably using voltage to operate or trick the speed if you ask me how possibility i don't know but is just work airflow definitely increase a lot more than using just red and black
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Apr 19 2024, 10:13 PM)
Yes very long long time ago my 3 pin fan only 2 wire use for PSU replacement fan psu can only plug in for 2 pin the speed and airflow just too low so i loop another together leave black wire alone results is much more better than single red wire like you said probably using voltage to operate or trick the speed if you ask me how possibility i don't know but is just work airflow definitely increase a lot more than using just red and black
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psu fan is usually quiet. some have switch like SeaSonic, cant remember the function, probably to enable zero rpm at low load.
if fan broken usually better to get Noctua or San Ace, both are top notch due to using FDB/ball bearing, quiet, but expensive

increasing psu fan is usually not necessary unless your casing have limited vent,
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 19 2024, 09:56 PM)
2/3 pins fan have minimum start up voltage, some start at 5v, high powered one usually 7v,
and 2/3 pins fan can be controlled via voltage, the only difference between them is 3rd pin is for reporting tachometer/RPM to mobo or other fan controller.

4pin pwm can be controller via voltage and pwm too.
you can have 12v 6000rpm
or 7v 4500 rpm, for example.

to override the gpu fan voltage you can use psu 7v instead of original 12v, so your fan will operate probably 25% lower speed
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005004238542471.html

or if you can get one of the speed reducer from nocuta https://www.amazon.sg/dp/B00650P2ZC?flyings...emc_s_m_5_i_atc
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yes , it's correct where minimum start up voltage is 5v and anything below will not run for those 2 pin.Compare to 4 pin with the 4th pin is pwm , you can change do even at 10% cycle duty.

The link you post like normal 2 pin ,not mini 2 pin.I need a converter to convert from mini 2 pin to 2 pin https://down-my.img.susercontent.com/file/e...47701dfa391dc42

Lets go back to to my question , which AMD gpu RX series or lower gets 4pin ? because every manufacturer brand model doesn't have image or pdf list the pins.Except go to youtube and watch those disassemble amd card video.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 20 2024, 08:07 AM)
yes , it's correct where minimum start up voltage is 5v and anything below will not run for those 2 pin.Compare to 4 pin with the 4th pin is pwm , you can change do even at 10% cycle duty.

The link you post like normal 2 pin ,not mini 2 pin.I need a converter to convert from mini 2 pin to 2 pin https://down-my.img.susercontent.com/file/e...47701dfa391dc42

Lets go back to to my question , which AMD gpu RX series or lower gets 4pin ? because every  manufacturer brand model doesn't have image or pdf list the pins.Except go to youtube and watch those disassemble amd card video.
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do you have brand preference? budget?

if you want quiet and long life then choose blower type, or just go with sapphire, MSI, etc, they usually play nice with the radeon software.

low end eg rx6400 = usually 2 pins only.
i would go for rx6600 or 7600
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 20 2024, 05:03 PM)
do you have brand preference? budget?

if you want quiet and long life then choose blower type, or just go with sapphire, MSI, etc, they usually play nice with the radeon software.

low end eg rx6400 = usually 2 pins only.
i would go for rx6600 or 7600
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Oddly from various reviews it seems blower style GPU has worst temps and loudest noise. Hardly a quiet type of cooler.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 20 2024, 09:57 PM)
Oddly from various reviews it seems blower style GPU has worst temps and loudest noise. Hardly a quiet type of cooler.
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you can tune the noise to your liking, or just stick to default fan speed which is very quiet but high temp, blower type gpu wont dump the heat back to pc, my vega was a tank, had it since 2017 and lasted during the crypto craze, gpu scalper and post covid.

now im happy laptop user lol
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Hey people. Looking for advice which AMD GPU manufacturer is the easiest no hassle to claim for warranty.

So far I'm not too keen with Sapphire because have to send back to shop.

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