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 Proton Suprima S V3, Slow Turbo.. Baru V3..

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post Oct 5 2018, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(kooriskook @ Oct 4 2018, 09:15 PM)
I asked Aiman @ Proton SC (Jln 222) and they said they can't do it, need to go to a bigger SC apparently. Sorry bro but what does COSE stand for? EA Autoworks quoted RM400+- to service/clean throttle body, turbo unit, intercooler & install oil catch can.
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Seems reasonable For EA Auto... the OCT itself costs quite a lot from them, so cleaning is not much more

QUOTE(kooriskook @ Oct 5 2018, 10:06 AM)
Bosses, an amateur here, what does MBO stand for?
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Mild Boost Optimisation. Just a name by EA Autoworks for their CFE remap
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(spades6 @ Oct 10 2018, 07:54 PM)
Did anyone get a call from your regular SC about a recall of CVT damper? They fix for free but need to leave the car with them for 2 days.. Anyone know whats up with the damper for CVT?
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I asked and got mine replaced. No changes to noise level. Vibration has been reduced a lot.


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post Oct 26 2018, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Oct 26 2018, 11:57 AM)
i also dunno.. my preve after crank start, sometime steering got vibration.. sometime didnt have.. so i guess its due to the position of wheel when i switch off the car.. while for the car itself.. no much vibration can be felt.

dunno where i read.. there is improved version of mounting for enine n gearbox since dunno what year aldy.. 2014, 2015?
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They still don't last. Just buy aftermarket mounting set like Provision.
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post Oct 26 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Oct 26 2018, 01:35 PM)
how good that provision brand? engine mount + gb mounting together estimate how much ?
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Someone mentioned rm370 online for parts alone. Try asking a spare parts shop
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post Oct 26 2018, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Oct 26 2018, 02:39 PM)
my one is used car.. tendered by proton cose.. so no warranty at any form... except foc on all recall parts such as the OCH, the starter adapter..

[cvt flywheel damper definately not foc for me, foc for new car that is under warranty]. from what i have read at the facebook group there.
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Just ask.. since the damper is considered a recall too
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Oct 29 2018, 06:38 PM)
1. Proton car are problematic , especially Preve thus Suprima S

2. Second Hand car might have unknown problem

3. Suprima S was heavy on fuel consumption

4. It was better to know well about the car before you buy it especially proton

5. Do you really need a suprima s?  Since 40k can buy a smaller new car already.

6. Cvt delay and whine and characteristic , you should test drive before you decide , sometime when you need immediate move it will delay 0.5s-1s.

Good Point
- it was good price if the car has no problem
- Suprima S and Preve safety are superior for the price

I dont own a Preve/Suprima S but a few well known problem that cost alot and frequnt was

1. fuse box
2. och
3. wheel bearing
4. mounting

i just look into preve info time to time and above were what i found , it should be more than that.
example - cannot start , cvt problem. it was better to go with manual for proton.
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Point 6 - CVT3+ has very little whine on Suprima, or at least it's far from being as loud as the CVT3 found on older Preve Turbos. The delay in CVT is very minimal for the Suprima compared to the rest of proton cars with Punch gearbox, and it's much better after the latest TCU/ECU update and damper recall. The engine/transmission mountings become less of a problem with the new damper, which reduces vibration by quite a lot. Worth the Rm700 if it's not under warranty. It is still far from feeling like "toyota cvt" unlike what some people claim, but nonetheless it's still a very much needed change.

I hardly read about wheel bearing problems, so where did you read about it? Fuse box issue seems to be mostly affecting the Preve, and is actually quite a cheap fix for those with electrical knowledge as far as I know.

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QUOTE(ms6309 @ Nov 2 2018, 10:45 AM)
Did they charge you for the CVT oil after changed CVT damper? I was told the CVT oil not included. Only free 1 litre.
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They only have to replace 1 litre of fluid for the recall. According to the foreman i was talking they reuse the previous oil
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QUOTE(ms6309 @ Nov 3 2018, 08:36 AM)
Yes, but there is a trick. The oil must not be changed more than 3 months. Mine just changed 6 months ago.
If reuse, the container is clean and not polluted with any dirt? Just to ensure gearbox will not have problem after warranty.
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That was my concern too. I went to have my CVT serviced for the second time outside instead at EA Autoworks a day after the damper recall was completed. If you don't feel comfortable, get the oil changed. If you do it outside, make sure they use genuine Proton CVT fluid. If you don't plan on using original CVT fluid, ensure that the fluid you are getting is compatible with Punch's CVT, and that the colour is similar so it won't be detected by the service centre visually. I went with Rock Oil CVT fluid from EA Autoworks since it's supposed to be better than proton's CVT fluid.
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Nov 20 2018, 04:42 PM)
I have found few proton SA that still selling Suprima year 2018.

But none of them allowed me to test drive it , they ask me to loan first. if Loan approve , then can test drive .. so different then 10 year ago lol ...
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Nov 20 2018, 05:26 PM)
No idea , maybe because i drive a old saga BLM .. maybe they think i cannot afford ..
seriously feel so sad lol ..
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Don't buy. Trust me. Stick with Toyota or even Honda if you don't want to deal with poor plastic quality and aftersales experience from Proton. The SAs are doing you a favour actually. biggrin.gif

What exactly are you looking for in a car anyway? If space and practicality is what you're after, buy a Jazz or a Toyota Yaris when it comes out next year. Proton's plus point is only the handling (which in stock form for the Suprima is really good), and the safety. Everything else is mostly a half past six job done by their engineering team.
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Nov 30 2018, 03:31 PM)
Mine is 2018 unit .. 2017 unit rebate RM 12000 but all sold out already ..
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Congrats.. remember to always budget for early and regular servicing, and don't forget to make use of the warranty for any problems with the car. Avoid COSE if you don't want to waste your time waiting for simple jobs to be completed.
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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Dec 2 2018, 11:41 AM)
COSE is still ok.. just dont go those small sc aka authorised dealer for car troubleshooting or alignment, if just for change engine oil, filter then its ok.

my car tyre balancing n alignment wreck up by smsll sc. n sent to cose for re balancing n alignment.
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COSE alignment and air cond service only.. warranty claim process is consistently too slow. Find a good authorised SC. Balancing I do outside at a Michelin tyre plus dealer since they got much better balancing machines
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Dec 3 2018, 09:05 AM)
Thank you for the advice guys, but can i know if i get the car then i straight away go to drex and install the oil catch tank and grounding cable, will it void warranty ?
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Technically speaking, they will void the warranty for certain things on the car. Proton normally close one eye to such "modifications" however as they are beneficial. I have not faced any issues with warranty claims with an OCT installed. I don't have any grounding cables installed, so I can't comment on this, but just take note that any electrical related modification can and will easily void the warranty for wiring and related things since you are adding stuff that the designer did not spec in in the first place, even if it was cost related.

If you need to claim any warranty for any electrical/electronic parts or even mechanical parts, remove the cables before sending your car in.

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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Dec 4 2018, 09:00 AM)
you install your OCT with drex right bro?
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Yup. They got a better version now
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Dec 4 2018, 11:07 AM)
Cool , will straight away go to drex haha. Thanks.
I hope the proton SC will close one eye when i send the car for service  rclxm9.gif
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Usually no issue, but to be on the safe side, remove it in case there is a major warranty claim. You can ask Drex on how they rejected his gearbox claim when you visit him
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QUOTE(AKUJEFF @ Dec 6 2018, 11:10 AM)
I have few questions. After i get my car , can i directly go to Proton SC and ask them to update my ECU , TCU and HU Firmware ?
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Should not be a problem. Just make an appointment and when they call, tell them you want them to check for software updates, or ask your SA to do it and give you the service sheet as proof
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Dec 8 2018, 11:32 PM)
Any owner here facing tickling sound from the steering area?
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When the steering is fully turned? If so, it should be normal. But check with the SC when you do your next service just in case it is a problem.
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Dec 12 2018, 02:22 PM)
HI,

I;m shortlisting this car as its around 40k+ for a second hand and it fits my budget.

1) Is there any reason why one should not purchase this car?

2) Are there any known problem with this car model?

3) Is there any review from lowyat member on this car? (would prefer a personal review rather than review from comemrcial car site)

Your advise are most appreciated. smile.gif
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1) lousy material quality, potentially poor reliability
2) oil cooler hose bursting, gearbox problem, turbo problem, engine and transmission mounting short lifespan, radio, etc
3) really good handling without any mods. Changing to PS4 tyres makes it even better. You don't need to bother with anything else. Decent power output, better after remapping.

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Dec 12 2018, 09:41 PM)
Wow.. Thanks for the Feedback.. Appreciate it.

So, with all the above mentioned problem and poor material quality, would u still recommend this car to a buyer of its second hand? Do advice as I will take it into consideration seriously. smile.gif
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Depends on your level of acceptance. The poor material quality is mostly affecting the interior dashboard panels, air cond knobs etc.

Since you're going for a used Suprima, bear in mind the usual things you need to check when buying used cars, and go through the interior thoroughly, play with the air cond knobs and buttons etc.

Then ask for a really long test drive. Ensure that the gearbox doesn't have any abnormal jerking or slipping. Bring someone experienced with Punch CVT to help.
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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Dec 12 2018, 10:11 PM)
for 2nd hand, you really need to open up everything to check.. as there are many reasons why its being sold..mostly is due to critical part faulty.

i am damn luckly to get preve unit previously owned by cose where all the maintenance being taken care of, so far no issue with och as have replaced it once i take ownership. now approaching 40k of usage since last och change, to be replace on next oil change.

as mentioned, most of och is burst at the inlet.. due to [no proper maintenance -late oil change or use some weird additives, engine oil etc] sludge forming inside the och device, and pressure builtup after that, oil properties change to acidic, etc etc etc etc are the main reasons why it burst/leak.
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I haven't gotten my OCH changed at 40k km. Might change it at 45k or 50k when I reach that mileage since its still soft and there are no cracks (touched it during service).

I use Syntium 7000 since the beginning of ownership, and have used Liqui moly Ceratec and Nano WS2 extreme before. No issues so far. Oil change interval between 5 to 7k
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Dec 12 2018, 09:41 PM)
Wow.. Thanks for the Feedback.. Appreciate it.

So, with all the above mentioned problem and poor material quality, would u still recommend this car to a buyer of its second hand? Do advice as I will take it into consideration seriously. smile.gif
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Also look at the mileage and the service record. If official record stops abruptly @ very long ago, be wary of the car. Warranty is really important especially for a proton since it has so many things that can fail, unless it has already been 5 years.

Be wary of tampered mileage as well. Most used cars dealer do this to raise the value. If you do end up buying a used Suprima, it's better if you do a major service, which is to change the engine oil, timing belt and related parts, CVT Oil and filter, power steering fluid, brake fluid, coolant, etc, just in case the mileage adjustment was really huge. Years ago I went hunting for a used car with my friend... and I found one with a mileage of only 75k km... and when I opened the hood, 189xxx was written on the timing belt cover, which I believe is the last mileage change for timing belt. Used car dealers probably have gotten much smarter since then.

P/S: Just in case you're looking for a workshop recommendation, I suggest EA Autoworks at Bukit Jalil. Not the cheapest around, but you will be very satisfied with their workmanship and diligence. Get the throttle body/intercooler serviced as well perhaps along with an oil catch tank.

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