Mostly same shit, slightly different packaging. Suprima has a different fuse box and the relay is easily replaceable

The maintenance cost will kill* you, unless your maintenance budget is much higher than it would be for a Saga or Bezza

As you are planning to do Grab, stay away from the Suprima S. The suspension parts do NOT last, and this will only accelerate the wear and tear of everything

*Partly because a lot of parts do not last like the Oil Cooler Hose (burst issue), radiator fan motor and relays, plastic parts, etc, and mostly thanks to the turbo which makes it necessary to either stick to a good engine oil (i.e. relatively expensive), unless you would like to deal with oil sludge issues that will lead to premature failure of the turbo, which itself costs 4 figures

Exactly. This car requires a lot of money to be kept in a good condition, and really will or should only be kept by real enthusiasts of the car, which are not many..

Best in terms of what? But the easy choice is usually Michelin Pilot Sport 4, 215/45R17

Prolong life of turbo, use good fully synthetic engine oil as it lubricates the Turbo's bearing system and takes heat away from it. Lower quality engine oil can result in oil coking when they are exposed to higher temperatures like in a Turbo. This is usually the reason for turbo failure since the oil can no longer flow properly, or at all

CVT gearbox, unfortunately even at stock spec, it's quite close to the 220nm limit of the gearbox. It should last as long as the driver's foot does not work like an ON-OFF switch, i.e. either a hard press or nothing. Be gentle when moving off from a standstill, halve the recommended service interval from Proton, and if budget permits, get better CVT oil like Rock Oil CVTF and a better CVTF cooler

For the parking sensors, I read that some Android head units are able to work with the parking sensors which communicate via CAN, which means they have a CAN controller/reader built-in. Perhaps the accessory shop or group can provide more info

Reliable tyres? Not sure. I have only used Achilles 2233, which are stock from factory for earlier batches. Not good experience cause it was already hardened. The replacement Continental CSC3 were better but still dreadful cause most of them were out of balance. Finally i chose PS4 and settled it with ever since, on second set now

Maybe Primacy 4 will fit your needs. If not look at some of the higher end Continental tyres. Don't bother too much with lifespan unless you drive long distances frequently. My PS4 lasted 50k km with some life left in them, and they felt a bit hard already. They were in the 3rd/4th year since manufacturing date. Still managed to sell two pieces for 50 MYR

Yes, AC is FEAD. Be sure to buy original Proton, it's really cheap

You might be one of the many who will suffer from quality issues later. The good news is it's easy to predict what and when something needs to be replaced. The bad news is a lot of stuff do not last that long. They may be cheap but the costs add up quickly, and this is what many owners complain about

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Radiator - probably original. No idea about aftermarket options, but I'm sure there are plenty for Proton

Brake pad, some say original has really good bite without having to warm up compared to aftermarket options. Otherwise there are plenty of options like TRW and Bendix

You should be able to get it duplicated at a shop that does car keys. Otherwise the service centre should be able to help, although it will probably be very expensive

1. Timing belt tension
2. Check OCV valve
3. Check exhaust manifold gasket/turbo exhaust inlet gasket


Original NGK plugs are just slightly more expensive than aftermarket compatible iridium plugs

Some say it can be used safely but when performing manual shifts, it should not be done beyond 4000 rpm. I would say it is not healthy if the driver is very aggressive with manual shifting, otherwise it should be fine to use

Just don't expect it to be as nice as a DSG or even a normal auto

Did the timing belt break or something?

Also typically authorized service centres are not as flexible as the official ones. Try dropping a mail to proton we care and see if they can help, since you had your car maintained by proton for all this time

Alternatively outside workshops can probably have your engine repaired for less than 10000 probably, maybe even half of that

Proton ori = 20+ myr only