Yup.

Nope. Much quieter.

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Uhhh... feels more cosy and comfortable for sure.

Uhm. Hard to answer cause I don't own one. What I can say is you won't miss turbo power for sure since it has one as well.. besides handling I guess it wins in everything else.

Didn't. Borrowed one for work purposes.

You'll definitely like it a lot. An X-trail has a quieter cabin and engine but loses out in many ways. 2.5L you pay a lot of road tax and don't get a lot more over the 2.0L. The CRV would be absolutely perfect if it has AVM like the X trail

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Oct 14 2017, 09:57 AM

High fuel consumption, average NVH, potential gearbox turbo oil cooler hose and etc issue.


MBO for extra power, extra sound deadening for engine and road noise. Door sound deadening and speaker/tweeter upgrade since the tweeters suck at high volume. Maybe head unit if you have cash for a properly good one

Average ride refinement.

Yes, head unit is the radio/touchscreen

Handling just change to better tyres like PS4. You won't need to install a few million stages worth of ultra racing bars just to do 80kmh or even 120kmh around a corner or bend. The original Continental tyres should be good enough though.

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Many Preve and Suprima suffer from this. I never did, but I switched from original to high performance halogen to Osram HIDs within a year. I was told that the voltage regulation is poor for this car.

Go ahead and try to get them to change whatever related wiring first before you consider switching to LED or HID

No experience. Can try asking proton parts centre about it. Should be fairly cheap. A new rear wiper arm is only less than rm80 if I'm not mistaken.

Not sure.

Under warranty? Send to sc and ask them to settle it for you. If not go to somewhere like Zordaq Motorsport and see if they can help you.

Risky.. so far I've paid more for osram bulbs. Up to rm6 each, but long lasting. This was when I had my persona

Spare parts shop. PH II Damansara Jaya. This was for my Persona, not sure about the Suprima. Mine is still functioning.

As long as the head unit fits. Not sure if the front or rear parking system will still work, but for the rear I believe you will still be able to connect up the reverse cam to the Reverse AV In port of the new head unit you're buying (if it has one), though you will need to find someone who has done this, or spend some time finding the correct wires for the reverse camera and modifying it to have a male AV connector. I have removed the head unit by myself before and did not see any AV connectors, so the reverse cam's wiring is made specifically for use with the lousy Blaupunkt head unit, or with the rear parking module (if there is one).

Depends on your luck. If previous owner didn't have or put time aside to get the car fixed you'll have to deal with it.

1) FC is bad. Probably the same or just slightly worse than your Saga though. Maybe even better since you don't need to use much throttle to get moving. It's better than my last Persona.
2) It's not a performance hatch back. It's faster than most typical cars on the road, but don't expect to go more than 210KM/H without modifying it slightly such as getting a remap (MBO by EA Autoworks). Acceleration is where this car shines at compared to most new cars at 100K and below. Speed wise it is pretty much in the same bracket (200KM/H or less) unmodified.
3) It highly depends on your needs. If you need a reliable, very comfortable, quiet, fuel efficient and etc car, this is not for you.

Reliability: Subjective. Some owners have it easy, some don't. You don't want to drag the service interval with this car. If you're buying used pay extra attention.
Comfort: Subjective also. Some say hard as rock, some say comfortable. Try it for yourself.

4) What are you looking for in a car? If you don't enjoy fast cornering don't bother with this car. It's only one of the few redeeming characteristics of the Suprima. The other two includes cabin space and above average power for the price for me.

Original pads are probably no good. I suffer from high pitch brake noise, which luckily isn't too loud. COSE skimmed the pads after I complained, and they basically made it worse. The front pads now squeak from time to time too even when hot.

EA Autoworks. Good workmanship.

OCT is recommended because it'll stop oil from accumulating on the intake (turbo onwards). It should not void the warranty but as usual anything that is not from the factory is a reason to void.

Jazz is much more refined; more quiet, smoother CVT, better NVH. It loses in the power and handling aspect. Space wise it's actually very spacious, and the seats support well. I find the Suprima much more comfortable however as the Jazz has a tendency to sway especially on bumpy roads. It's worth it if you prioritise power and good handling over other things. You'll have to spend money on improving the NVH by doing sound deadening for the engine and road noise, but it'll be worth it.

Maintenance wise it is a lot more pricey to maintain compared to a Jazz as it has a Turbo engine. Basically you'll need to pay extra attention to the engine oil you're using as cheap ones can cause sludge to build up which will eventually cause the turbo to spoil. Not servicing on-time or early can also cause this to happen. Tyres are also much more expensive as it is 17 inches, but you do get a lot more high performance tyre options for this size.

The biggest headache that some owners will have is CVT gearbox failure. Quite many have had their gearbox fail in their Suprima/Preve, but some of them are very aggressive with the throttle. If you're the sort that can feather the throttle when moving from a standstill, you're less likely to have the gearbox fail. This applies to any other CVT gearbox basically, but Proton's current CVT gearbox is especially sensitive as it is using a clutch instead of a torque converter.

Overall I don't regret buying this car because I know what I want in the cars I buy, and how to fix most of the problems (especially rattling issues). Go on more test drives with the Suprima, and try to test for as long as possible especially in stop-n-go traffic situation. The CVT gearbox characteristic can be a really big turn off for some people, especially those who expect very strong initial acceleration (I hate this kind of drivers cause as a passenger they'll make you vomit).

Points	Jazz	Suprima
Power	-	Faster. May be slightly slower at a standstill for a short while due to CVT initial engagement characteristics, but it'll push beyond 140KM/H easily especially after a remap (MBO by EA Autoworks). It basically is like a 2.4L NA Engine but with a much more consistent acceleration power at low speeds due to the CVT + Turbo combination. It'll max out around 200 to 220KM/H, whilst a 2.4L NA should bring you slightly higher than that w/o being super stressed out
Handling	Soft;floaty. I don't dare to push my sister's E Spec Jazz pass 80KMH, whilst I can go up to 130KMH in my Suprima S at the same corner	Stable; Really gives you a lot of confidence
NVH	Much better	Fairly noisy engine/gearbox. You're recommended to go for proper engine/gearbox noise sound deadening. Get it done at proper shops, not the ah beng ones
Space	About the same	-
Reliability	Generally more reliable	Depends on your luck/driving style. Some people don't have any major problems with their car, some do.
Fuel Consumption	Very economical (20KM/L can be easily achieved on a highway with me driving.. My sister can only get around 15KM/L	Very poor for city driving, good for highway driving (6L to 8L/100KM).

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Feb 25 2018, 07:14 PM