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post Jul 30 2018, 09:20 PM

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Anyone care to share what is the guideline for the allowed height of the perimeter wall? My place is a corner lot want to build up the perimeter wall but not sure what is the allowed maximum height
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post Sep 7 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jan 30 2018, 01:33 PM)
Ok follow up by this.
My architect said that he already redraw and re-submit the plan next year JUN 2017. And then MPSJ already approve it.
And he said there is no deadline for doing the CCC.

I personally don't trust him, so i go to MPSJ and ask them verify for me.
MPSJ staff said, the architect did submit the plan at JUN 2017, and the plan has approved.
the 31 Aug 2018 deadline is for plan submission approval.
MPSJ staff also confirmed that CCC has no deadline, and will issued by architect.

OK so at least i pang sim bit.
The ccc might not be a cert, it is a borang F (Sijil Pergesahan Menduduki).
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do you manage to get your CCC?
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post Sep 13 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(simpleguyme @ Sep 7 2018, 07:11 PM)
do you manage to get your CCC?
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Ya finally i got it..

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post Sep 19 2018, 11:37 AM

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MPSJ CCC Deadline extended to 31st December 2018 as per below:
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...line-stretched/

I plan to engage architect to do a fresh drawing to get approval for CCC.
This is a renovated compact house (extended front and back) which I bought last year and I do not think it has a CCC compliance.

May I know what is the cost nowadays? I heard 2 years back was about RM 3k.
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post Sep 27 2018, 12:40 AM

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The latest cost till ccc is about 3.5k, not inclusive of rm500 compound....is this fair price?
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post Oct 6 2018, 12:58 AM

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my case, i hired the draftman to submit my plan to mbsj on 1/OCT. And today 6/OCT, i get the borang F (CCC). is that too fast? should i be worry is a fake CCC? i have check the Building Draughtsman is a registered BD in LAM.
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post Oct 6 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ Oct 6 2018, 12:58 AM)
my case, i hired the draftman to submit my plan to mbsj on 1/OCT. And today 6/OCT,  i get the borang F (CCC). is that too fast? should i be worry is a fake CCC? i have check the Building Draughtsman is a registered  BD in LAM.
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Wow!! That's fast, did any mpsj ppl came to inspect?

How much you paid for the service to submit and obtain ccc? smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2018, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Antzfield @ Oct 6 2018, 01:52 PM)
Wow!! That's fast, did any mpsj ppl came to inspect?

How much you paid for the service to submit and obtain ccc? smile.gif
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Around 3.8k, draftman just submitted the copy of ccc to mpsj JAM. Should be within 1 or 2 months time.
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post Oct 7 2018, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ Oct 6 2018, 04:49 PM)
Around 3.8k, draftman just submitted the copy of ccc to mpsj JAM. Should be within  1 or 2 months time.
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3.8k, thanks and noted.
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post Oct 25 2018, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ Oct 6 2018, 04:49 PM)
Around 3.8k, draftman just submitted the copy of ccc to mpsj JAM. Should be within  1 or 2 months time.
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I can provide service to obtain approval and CCC from MPSJ. Anyone interested please PM me. Thanks
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:00 PM

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Hi,

I have a scenario here, the plan submission by architect and renovation works is done 2 years ago. During a CCC application, architect mentioned that the Borang G need CIDB registered contractor to sign.

I got 2 questions here;

1. For the Borang G, under the contractor portion, can I write owner's name and owner's IC no. said that the owner monitored the renovation works. Why I ask like this is because :

a. The form have a statement somewhere mentioned "mengawasi" and "menerima tanggungjawab sepenuhnya". So can i said that the owner monitored the
renovation works and fully responsible for the renovation works himself.

*1. Kami memperakui bahawa kami telahmengawasi dan/atau menjalankan pembinaan dan penyiapan kerja-kerja bangunan dan
bahawa sepanjang pengetahuan dan kepercayaan kami kerja-kerja itu adalah mengikut pelan yang diluluskan No. Ruj.:……………………………… dan bahawa
kami menerima tanggungjawab sepenuhnya ke atas pembinaan dan penyiapan kerja-kerja bangunan itu.

b. At the bottom of the form, there have a note "# No.K.P., jika tiada badan yang berkaitan berkenaan dengan pendaftaran". Mean's that there are an
option to write in someone's name that are not registered with CIDB / Suruhanjaya Tenaga / etc. Furthermore, what if the owner itself is a contractor of a
trade but not related to the renovation and the owner himself have the CIDB registered but not his company.


2. For the CIDB registered contractor to sign the Borang G, is there any rules or regulations to said that the contractor must be a registered CIDB contractor under
the related trade. Because i know that the CIDB registered contractor have different greds and categories. Let's say the contractor is registered to CIDB under
electrical categories, can he sign all the Borang G form even for civil work ? Can we say that the owner engage the electrical contractor to do the whole renovation
works ? Of cause, the electrical contractor will not able to do the civil works, but they sub-contract to someone else who can.

Hope someone can help give advice.. smile.gif smile.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(andyllh81 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:00 PM)
Hi,

I have a scenario here, the plan submission by architect and renovation works is done 2 years ago. During a CCC application, architect mentioned that the Borang G need CIDB registered contractor to sign.

I got 2 questions here;

1. For the Borang G, under the contractor portion, can I write owner's name and owner's IC no. said that the owner monitored the renovation works. Why I ask like this is because :
   
    a. The form have a statement somewhere mentioned "mengawasi" and "menerima tanggungjawab sepenuhnya". So can i said that the owner monitored the
        renovation works and fully responsible for the renovation works himself.

          *1. Kami memperakui bahawa  kami telahmengawasi dan/atau menjalankan  pembinaan dan penyiapan kerja-kerja bangunan dan
          bahawa sepanjang pengetahuan  dan  kepercayaan  kami  kerja-kerja  itu adalah mengikut pelan yang diluluskan No.  Ruj.:……………………………… dan bahawa
          kami menerima tanggungjawab sepenuhnya ke atas pembinaan dan penyiapan kerja-kerja bangunan itu.

    b. At the bottom of the form, there have a note  "#    No.K.P., jika tiada badan yang  berkaitan berkenaan dengan pendaftaran". Mean's that there are an
        option to write in someone's name that are not registered with CIDB / Suruhanjaya Tenaga / etc. Furthermore, what if the owner itself is a contractor of a
        trade but not related to the renovation and the owner himself have the CIDB registered but not his company.
2. For the CIDB registered contractor to sign the Borang G, is there any rules or regulations to said that the  contractor must be a registered CIDB contractor under
    the related trade. Because i know that the CIDB registered contractor have different greds and categories. Let's say the contractor is registered to CIDB under
    electrical categories, can he sign all the Borang G form even for civil work ? Can we say that the owner engage the electrical contractor to do the whole renovation
    works ? Of cause, the electrical contractor will not able to do the civil works, but they sub-contract to someone else who can. 

Hope someone can help give advice..  smile.gif  smile.gif
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i think for smaller renovation/built project the architect can signed the forms. usually dont need to sign the whole 21 forms. only applicable ones.

why dont you clarify? or u ask for discount too much brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(jojozep @ May 14 2018, 02:31 PM)
Can someone recommend a good registered draftman who can submit for me? My previous architect wants a lot of money to continue to get the ccc for me. Just want an honest one.
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I need too.
My previous architect take my money and drag about 2years and not yet submit.
I think he was cheater
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post Nov 2 2018, 11:37 PM

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have anyone can introduce architects for me to apply at MBPJ and get ccc? my unit is inside shopping mall.. thanks..
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post Nov 20 2018, 09:44 PM

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Seeking help/advise from any expert about the certification of CIDB contractor.

I started my house's renovation at the end of Nov 2014, extended backyard and I have been engaging a contractor(without CIDB certification) to do the extension without knowing that the renovation approval plan require a CIDB certified contractor to sign it in order to get the CCC.

I gotten the approved drawing plan from the authority before the renovation start. However, when I request to apply for CCC after renovation completed, the contractor claimed that there was a new rules set up by government which only the CIDB certified contractor can sign the form to apply CCC. This contractor is very irresponsible by simply pushing the issue to the government's new rules and not willing to resolve it. I have paid him RM4k to submit the approved plan in year 2015, yet he can't complete the application of CCC and did not refund me as he claimed that he did engage architect the draw the plan, not his fault for the new rules implemented.

3 years later, I found out that he had applied for CIDB certification and was a member since Aug 2018 as below screen shot. However, when I clarified with him, he claimed that he did applied for it but was not success as the certification fees is very expensive so he is not willing to pay for it. Looking at below screen shot, is that true?

Lastly, appreciate if anyone can advise me what should I do and you can also PM me any contact of a contractor who is able to sign the plan with a reasonable fees. I am willing to pay the fee if it is reasonable.

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QUOTE(yohyang @ Nov 20 2018, 09:44 PM)
Seeking help/advise from any expert about the certification of CIDB contractor.

I started my house's renovation at the end of Nov 2014, extended backyard and I have been engaging a contractor(without CIDB certification) to do the extension without knowing that the renovation approval plan require a CIDB certified contractor to sign it  in order to get the CCC.

I gotten the approved drawing plan from the authority before the renovation start. However, when I request to apply for CCC after renovation completed, the contractor claimed that there was a new rules set up by government which only the CIDB certified contractor can sign the form to apply CCC. This contractor is very irresponsible by simply pushing the issue to the government's new rules and not willing to resolve it. I have paid him RM4k to submit the approved plan in year 2015, yet he can't complete the application of CCC and did not refund me as he claimed that he did engage architect the draw the plan, not his fault for the new rules implemented.

3 years later, I found out that he had applied for CIDB certification and was a member since Aug 2018 as below screen shot. However, when I clarified with him, he claimed that he did applied for it but was not success as the certification fees is very expensive so he is not willing to pay for it. Looking at below screen shot, is that true?

Lastly, appreciate if anyone can advise me what should I do and you can also PM me any contact of a contractor who is able to sign the plan with a reasonable fees. I am willing to pay the fee if it is reasonable.

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Looks like he is registered with CIDB.
The problem probably because the initial cost for the architect does not include CCC. He is not willing to pay extra to the architect to get the CCC.
Architect definitely charge extra for CCC as he will carry bigger and more official responsibility.
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post Apr 24 2019, 10:51 AM

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guys, hows the CCC look like?
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Say if you build own house on your own land do you still need to get CCC?
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Sharing a bad experience I had when trying to get the CCC done. Note that I am aware there's a difference between architect and contractor. I might however use the wrong tagging.

Before the renovation, we submitted the architecture plan, drafted by the architect. They are from MPSJ's list of approved panel. Nothing complicated there. Pretty straight forward.

Headache comes during CCC. The one after renovation where we had to get approval that the changes had been completed. The rule is, we had to engage the same architect because they are the one who initially drafted the plan. After collecting all our documents and first quarter payment, we have not heard from them for 3 months. No updates. MPSJ sent us a letter stating that there are missing documents. Called up the architect and they said they will handle it. Few months passed again. No update. Finally found out that the architect is not CIDB approved. Why are they even in MPSJ's list in the first place? Called the architect and they ask me to find my own CIDB contractor. Had no choice but to pay another CIDB contractor to get it done. So it's paying two sides. Eventually got the CIDB approval and re-submitted the documents. Called up the ori architect to follow up but they said they cannot do anything else. Claimed MPSJ had to contact them and MPSJ said the architect must contact them. Both sides isn't moving. I had to personally handle it. Went to MPSJ office like nearly 7 times to settle it. Halfway through, MPSJ claimed that they did not receive the CIDB documents. Lucky that I took a picture of the document when they stamped it. Otherwise I need to pay the CIDB contractor again. More than a year later, got it settled.

In my view, there will be less confusion if MPSJ would just notify us who is CIDB approved at the very beginning.
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QUOTE(pkh @ Nov 12 2019, 10:48 AM)
Sharing a bad experience I had when trying to get the CCC done. Note that I am aware there's a difference between architect and contractor. I might however use the wrong tagging.

Before the renovation, we submitted the architecture plan, drafted by the architect. They are from MPSJ's list of approved panel. Nothing complicated there. Pretty straight forward.

Headache comes during CCC. The one after renovation where we had to get approval that the changes had been completed. The rule is, we had to engage the same architect because they are the one who initially drafted the plan. After collecting all our documents and first quarter payment, we have not heard from them for 3 months. No updates. MPSJ sent us a letter stating that there are missing documents. Called up the architect and they said they will handle it. Few months passed again. No update. Finally found out that the architect is not CIDB approved. Why are they even in MPSJ's list in the first place? Called the architect and they ask me to find my own CIDB contractor. Had no choice but to pay another CIDB contractor to get it done. So it's paying two sides. Eventually got the CIDB approval and re-submitted the documents. Called up the ori architect to follow up but they said they cannot do anything else. Claimed MPSJ had to contact them and MPSJ said the architect must contact them. Both sides isn't moving. I had to personally handle it. Went to MPSJ office like nearly 7 times to settle it. Halfway through, MPSJ claimed that they did not receive the CIDB documents. Lucky that I took a picture of the document when they stamped it. Otherwise I need to pay the CIDB contractor again. More than a year later, got it settled.

In my view, there will be less confusion if MPSJ would just notify us who is CIDB approved at the very beginning.
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Architect is governed by Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia (LAM) under Architect's Act 1967 (Act 117)
Contractor is governed by Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) under CIDB Act (Act 520)

Architect generally design, submit plans for approval, inspect construction and certify a building & payment to contractor.
Contractor construct the building.

Architect cannot submit a plan if he/she is not registered under LAM. Architect don't need to register with CIDB.
Your case, most likely the contractor is not registered under CIDB (illegal contractor).

For CCC to be issued, a large part of the G-Forms needs to be signed by a CIDB registered contractor.

CIDB and LAM (and architect) have not been doing their job of informing owners on the paramount of engaging proper registered contractor only.

Friendly advice: if you doing regular maintenance of building, like replacing toilet bowl, replacing tiles, painting job, etc. Then you can use those unregistered contractors, because there are no submission involved. But if you doing anything which needs submission, make sure you ask the contractor to give you CIDB registration cert at the beginning. Company registration with SSM does not mean they are registered with CIDB.

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