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post May 18 2010, 01:10 AM

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Hi !

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Can any sifu help me identify this for me pretty please??


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Added on May 21, 2010, 9:55 amAnyone can help identify this ???

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post May 23 2010, 09:43 PM

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hi Bro,i want to Ask,I have an amulet made of powder substances and I would like to make a cover for it and bring it everyday.So my question is which kind of casing you guys will recommend?transparent plastic?How much they usually cost?thanks.
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QUOTE(xenxenxen @ May 18 2010, 01:10 AM)
Hi !

I need some help here..

Can any sifu help me identify this for me pretty please??
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Added on May 21, 2010, 9:55 amAnyone can help identify this ???
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The first picture is in Chinese (I don't understand Chinese smile.gif ) and 2500 is the Buddhist Era year, which is 1957 in Gregorian calendar.

The second picture is partially blocked by your camera flash, but to my understanding it should say;

Phra Kod Manoch
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QUOTE(junshern222 @ May 23 2010, 09:43 PM)
hi Bro,i want to Ask,I have an amulet made of powder substances and I would like to make a cover for it and bring it everyday.So my question is which kind of casing you guys will recommend?transparent plastic?How much they usually cost?thanks.
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If it's of powder substance and if you don't need to take your amulet out for showcase (often for veteran collectors for pricey amulets only) - it's better if you seal it in water-resistant plastic.

Depending on the side garnishing and pattern, it's in the range of RM 8 - 20. You can find these services plentiful in Pudu Plaza and almost any Thai amulet shops.
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post May 23 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(xenxenxen @ May 18 2010, 01:10 AM)
Hi !

I need some help here..

Can any sifu help me identify this for me pretty please??
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Added on May 21, 2010, 9:55 amAnyone can help identify this ???
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Isn't this Ochi's amulet from Kedah?


Added on May 23, 2010, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(junshern222 @ May 23 2010, 09:43 PM)
hi Bro,i want to Ask,I have an amulet made of powder substances and I would like to make a cover for it and bring it everyday.So my question is which kind of casing you guys will recommend?transparent plastic?How much they usually cost?thanks.
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Hi Junshern,
I always prefer stainless stell casing for powder amulet. Doesn't matter the sweat seeping in, it's ok. Juz don't wear it to bath/swimming. Coz, I don't want to risk damaging the amulet when changing casing. For metal amulet, then I'll prefer waterproof plastic casing coz metal amulet will be damaged by sweat and there's no risk of damaging the amulet when changing a new plastic casing. Stalnless stell casing normally cost RM15-25 in Klang Valley area. Juz my opinion.

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post May 26 2010, 03:34 PM

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..only realise that hv Thai amulets thread here today.. hear friends said, if wear amulets, cnt walk under the handing clothes.. go toilet must put amulet or amulets into mouth.. sweat.gif ...cnt put amulets in sleeping room...really hv these "pantang"..??
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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 26 2010, 03:34 PM)
..only realise that hv Thai amulets thread here today.. hear friends said, if wear amulets, cnt walk under the handing clothes.. go toilet must put amulet or amulets into mouth.. sweat.gif ...cnt put amulets in sleeping room...really hv these "pantang"..??
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Different school of thoughts have different thoughts on this.

For myself I only consciously not walk under clothing lines. Sometimes as all humans do, we tend to forget. smile.gif

If you look behind the underlying principles behind all of the above said taboos - it only boils down to one thing, respect your amulet as it is a holy object.
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post May 26 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(AbsoluteAuctions @ May 26 2010, 04:14 PM)
Different school of thoughts have different thoughts on this.

For myself I only consciously not walk under clothing lines. Sometimes as all humans do, we tend to forget. smile.gif

If you look behind the underlying principles behind all of the above said taboos - it only boils down to one thing, respect your amulet as it is a holy object.
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u r right rclxms.gif , show respect is the main purpose. But will these acts "power down" amulets?..confuse rclxub.gif
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Holy Masses:
There are many holy masses from top monks such as
1. “Phong Jindamanee” (holy powder), gold sheet, silver sheet and copper alloy from Somdej Phra SangKhaRaj, Wat Bawon Nivet, Bangkok.
2. Phra Phrom WaChiRaYan, Wat YanNaWa, Bangkok
3. Phra Phrom WeTee, Wat Trimit, Bangkok
4. Phra Phrom MeTee, Wat ThepSirin, Bangkok
5. Phra Phrom Sutee, Wat Saket, Bangkok
6. LP Ruay, Wat Tako, Ayutthaya province
7. LP Perm, Wat PomKaeo, Ayutthaya province
8. LP Poon, Wat Ban Pan, Ayutthaya province
9. LP Iat, Wat Pai Lom, Ayutthaya province
10. LP Pian, Wat GrernGaTin, Lop Buri province
11. LP Uean, Wat WangDaengTai, Ayutthaya province
12. LP Tiw, Wat Manee Chonla Khan, Lop Buri province
13. LP Maha Surasak, Wat Pradoo, Samut SongKham provice
14. LP Chamnan, Wat BangGooTiTong, PaThum Thani



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LP Maha Surasak(Wat Pradoo) and LP Chamnan(Wat BangGooTiTong) with top monk in Thailand joined to bless these amulets in auspicious time at Wat Nopphakao Tha Yi Ka Ram.


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post May 29 2010, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 26 2010, 04:42 PM)
u r right  rclxms.gif , show respect is the main purpose. But will these acts "power down" amulets?..confuse rclxub.gif
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Hi,
Juz chipping in my opinion and what I know. For regular amulets (not those with spirits or barang), the power of the amulet is cemented forever if the monk who consecrated it pass on (died) while still upholding the Buddha's Teaching.
The basic principle that gives rise to so many Thai Buddhist amulets comes from a vow made by the Deva King. As the legend goes, the Deva King held high respect to the Lord Buddha for his virtue and teaching to all sentient beings. The Deva King thus vowed that whoever follows the teaching of the Master with diligence and faith will have their wishes granted and protected by the devas.
So, true monks (not just any guy in a yellow robe will do but those that diligently follow the Buddha’s teaching), having compassion for sentient beings, thus utilises this vow made by the Deva King and issue amulets, making wishes in the consecration ceremony that whoever wears the particular amulet will be free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc. So the power of regular amulets comes from the wishes made by the monks. If the monk pass on while still diligently practising the Buddha’s teaching, then the vow made by the Deva King will be unbroken forever and the power of the amulet is cemented forever.
That’s why, amulets made by acclaimed masters who have pass on such as AC Toh, LP Suk, LP Pan, LP Choong, LP Sud, LP Kong, and many more are so prized by devotees, coz the power of their amulets last forever as they have all passed on while still diligently practising the Lord Buddha’s teaching.
So logically/rationally speaking, will the power of amulets be lost if we go to toilet wearing it, walk under hanging cloths, go to the maternity ward, and all the taboos that we have been boggled with? Will the wish of the master making it and the vow of the Deva King be broken by such act? It is just out of our respect for this sacred object that we try our best to avoid such unclean act, nothing will harm the power of the amulet if u have understood where the power comes from..
For example, amulets by AC Toh are at least 138 years old, those by LP Suk, LP Pan, are over 80 years old, Phra Rod amulets from Wat Mahawan are over 1000 years old, Nangpaya amulets are 500 years old and many others old amulets, so many things unimaginable would have happened to these amulets in the course of their long history but why are devotees still willing to pay such a hefty amount to rent them? Think about it..it’s in understanding the source of the power, the vow is unbroken..
On the other hand, amulets made by living monks, who have broken their Buddhist practise in the course of their life will be lost without having u going to the toilet, walk under clothing, going to funeral, maternity ward and whatsoever cause the vow has been broken and the devas are in no obligation to grant the wishes of these disgraced monks/ex-monks..
There are another class of sacred objects/barang/spirits/amulets that derive their power from magical art and not from the vow of the Deva King. For these amulets, the power comes from magical incantation/practise and the power may be broken under certain circumstances as all magic can be broken. For example, spirits may leave the amulets, magical spell broken due to certain reason, etc.
So, in summary, for regular Buddhist amulets, it doesn’t matter what form/image it comes in, the power lies in what are the wishes made by the monks making them and if the monk truly practise the Buddha’s teaching till the end..
Hope that helps to clarify some part of the puzzle..

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QUOTE(Selipo @ May 29 2010, 03:41 AM)
Hi,
Juz chipping in my opinion and what I know. For regular amulets (not those with spirits or barang), the power of the amulet is cemented forever if the monk who consecrated it pass on (died) while still upholding the Buddha's Teaching.
The basic principle that gives rise to so many Thai Buddhist amulets comes from a vow made by the Deva King. As the legend goes, the Deva King held high respect to the Lord Buddha for his virtue and teaching to all sentient beings. The Deva King thus vowed that whoever follows the teaching of the Master with diligence and faith will have their wishes granted and protected by the devas.
So, true monks (not just any guy in a yellow robe will do but those that diligently follow the Buddha’s teaching), having compassion for sentient beings, thus utilises this vow made by the Deva King and issue amulets, making wishes in the consecration ceremony that whoever wears the particular amulet will be free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc. So the power of regular amulets comes from the wishes made by the monks. If the monk pass on while still diligently practising the Buddha’s teaching, then the vow made by the Deva King will be unbroken forever and the power of the amulet is cemented forever.
That’s why, amulets made by acclaimed masters who have pass on such as AC Toh, LP Suk, LP Pan, LP Choong, LP Sud, LP Kong, and many more are so prized by devotees, coz the power of their amulets last forever as they have all passed on while still diligently practising the Lord Buddha’s teaching.
So logically/rationally speaking, will the power of amulets be lost if we go to toilet wearing it, walk under hanging cloths, go to the maternity ward, and all the taboos that we have been boggled with? Will the wish of the master making it and the vow of the Deva King be broken by such act? It is just out of our respect for this sacred object that we try our best to avoid such unclean act, nothing will harm the power of the amulet if u have understood where the power comes from..
For example, amulets by AC Toh are at least 138 years old, those by LP Suk, LP Pan, are over 80 years old, Phra Rod amulets from Wat Mahawan are over 1000 years old, Nangpaya amulets are 500 years old and many others old amulets, so many things unimaginable would have happened to these amulets in the course of their long history but why are devotees still willing to pay such a hefty amount to rent them? Think about it..it’s in understanding the source of the power, the vow is unbroken..
On the other hand, amulets made by living monks, who have broken their Buddhist practise in the course of their life will be lost without having u going to the toilet, walk under clothing, going to funeral, maternity ward and whatsoever cause the vow has been broken and the devas are in no obligation to grant the wishes of these disgraced monks/ex-monks..
There are another class of sacred objects/barang/spirits/amulets that derive their power from magical art and not from the vow of the Deva King. For these amulets, the power comes from magical incantation/practise and the power may be broken under certain circumstances as all magic can be broken. For example, spirits may leave the amulets, magical spell broken due to certain reason, etc.
So, in summary, for regular Buddhist amulets, it doesn’t matter what form/image it comes in, the power lies in what are the wishes made by the monks making them and if the monk truly practise the Buddha’s teaching till the end..
Hope that helps to clarify some part of the puzzle..
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thx, it clear some of my hiding doubts, think it is time to appreciate my father amulets collection, he started more than 30 yeras, should have some "tresures".. rclxm9.gif

since amulets is for good purpose such as free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc..other than it, if persons misuse it? will it still have power under such conditions? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Selipo @ May 29 2010, 03:41 AM)
Hi,
Juz chipping in my opinion and what I know. For regular amulets (not those with spirits or barang), the power of the amulet is cemented forever if the monk who consecrated it pass on (died) while still upholding the Buddha's Teaching.
The basic principle that gives rise to so many Thai Buddhist amulets comes from a vow made by the Deva King. As the legend goes, the Deva King held high respect to the Lord Buddha for his virtue and teaching to all sentient beings. The Deva King thus vowed that whoever follows the teaching of the Master with diligence and faith will have their wishes granted and protected by the devas.
So, true monks (not just any guy in a yellow robe will do but those that diligently follow the Buddha’s teaching), having compassion for sentient beings, thus utilises this vow made by the Deva King and issue amulets, making wishes in the consecration ceremony that whoever wears the particular amulet will be free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc. So the power of regular amulets comes from the wishes made by the monks. If the monk pass on while still diligently practising the Buddha’s teaching, then the vow made by the Deva King will be unbroken forever and the power of the amulet is cemented forever.
That’s why, amulets made by acclaimed masters who have pass on such as AC Toh, LP Suk, LP Pan, LP Choong, LP Sud, LP Kong, and many more are so prized by devotees, coz the power of their amulets last forever as they have all passed on while still diligently practising the Lord Buddha’s teaching.
So logically/rationally speaking, will the power of amulets be lost if we go to toilet wearing it, walk under hanging cloths, go to the maternity ward, and all the taboos that we have been boggled with? Will the wish of the master making it and the vow of the Deva King be broken by such act? It is just out of our respect for this sacred object that we try our best to avoid such unclean act, nothing will harm the power of the amulet if u have understood where the power comes from..
For example, amulets by AC Toh are at least 138 years old, those by LP Suk, LP Pan, are over 80 years old, Phra Rod amulets from Wat Mahawan are over 1000 years old, Nangpaya amulets are 500 years old and many others old amulets, so many things unimaginable would have happened to these amulets in the course of their long history but why are devotees still willing to pay such a hefty amount to rent them? Think about it..it’s in understanding the source of the power, the vow is unbroken..
On the other hand, amulets made by living monks, who have broken their Buddhist practise in the course of their life will be lost without having u going to the toilet, walk under clothing, going to funeral, maternity ward and whatsoever cause the vow has been broken and the devas are in no obligation to grant the wishes of these disgraced monks/ex-monks..
There are another class of sacred objects/barang/spirits/amulets that derive their power from magical art and not from the vow of the Deva King. For these amulets, the power comes from magical incantation/practise and the power may be broken under certain circumstances as all magic can be broken. For example, spirits may leave the amulets, magical spell broken due to certain reason, etc.
So, in summary, for regular Buddhist amulets, it doesn’t matter what form/image it comes in, the power lies in what are the wishes made by the monks making them and if the monk truly practise the Buddha’s teaching till the end..
Hope that helps to clarify some part of the puzzle..
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Very very informative, bro! Excellent source of information. Thumbs up! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 29 2010, 09:34 AM)
rclxms.gif

thx, it clear some of my hiding doubts, think it is time to appreciate my father amulets collection, he started more than 30 yeras, should have some "tresures".. rclxm9.gif

since amulets is for good purpose such as free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc..other than it, if persons misuse it? will it still have power under such conditions?  rclxub.gif
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Good for u..Wish i could be there to sort out the "treasure" together with u. What do u mean by misuse? If u mean if the person is doing bad things, will the amulet still protect him?
That depends on his own karma..the amulet will not lose its power, juz that at the moment the person is doing bad thgs, the amulet may fail to protect him..but another good person wearing it later on will be protected..The fault is with the person not the amulet, the wish and the vow made is not broken.
If karma has ripen, then with the best amulet in the world also things cannot be changed. Amulets serve as a catalyst, to give us the additional boost to reach our goal or to protect us from unexpected danger..
Even the Buddha in his lifetime cannot stop his own city state from being destroyed by her enemy because the karma is as such..
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QUOTE(Selipo @ May 30 2010, 12:10 AM)
Good for u..Wish i could be there to sort out the "treasure" together with u. What do u mean by misuse? If u mean if the person is doing bad things, will the amulet still protect him?
That depends on his own karma..the amulet will not lose its power, juz that at the moment the person is doing bad thgs, the amulet may fail to protect him..but another good person wearing it later on will be protected..The fault is with the person not the amulet, the wish and the vow made is not broken.
If karma has ripen, then with the best amulet in the world also things cannot be changed. Amulets serve as a catalyst, to give us the additional boost to reach our goal or to protect us from unexpected danger..
Even the Buddha in his lifetime cannot stop his own city state from being destroyed by her enemy because the karma is as such..
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it is really enjoy to see your post, like a lighthouse in the mist...lol

Krama, i like this word.!!..i think Karma for those persons sell fake amulets must be relly big. My friend bought a Somlek Watlakang (sorry if wrong spell) with RM3000. which the seller told him worth RM30,000 in Thai.. shocking.gif. after veryflied by experts(??), it seem that...

wounder any simple & proper steps or methods to upkeep original true amulets? some says, let monks pray it....wash with flower + perfume+ water...ourself pray it as much as possible... rclxub.gif

i will try to post some photos of this "treasure", you are most welcome to reveal it, my house is in Sg.Petani.

thx again, hope that can see more of this informative posts, it help a lot to me..

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 30 2010, 10:41 AM)
rclxms.gifthumbup.gif

it is really enjoy to see your post, like a lighthouse in the mist...lol

Krama, i like this word.!!..i think Karma for those persons sell fake amulets must be relly big. My friend bought a Somlek Watlakang (sorry if wrong spell) with RM3000. which the seller told him worth RM30,000 in Thai.. shocking.gif. after veryflied by experts(??), it seem that...

wounder any simple & proper steps or methods to upkeep original true amulets? some says, let monks pray it....wash with flower + perfume+ water...ourself pray it as much as possible...  rclxub.gif

i will try to post some photos of this "treasure", you are most welcome to reveal it, my house is in Sg.Petani.

thx again, hope that can see more of this informative posts, it help a lot to me..
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Well, maybe the seller also dunno..coz old Somdej WRK very difficult to ID..We go on a "to the best of my knowledge" basis in dealing..Unless sciencetifically proven by carbon dating by drilling a small hole into the amulet..if the age of the material is abt 150 yrs +/-, then it should be consecrated by AC Toh himself..PM me yr phone number. Maybe we will drop by on our tour of Malaysia with Maha Chat..

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