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SUSKLboy92
post Nov 11 2016, 05:34 PM

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Karel Doorman (Daman JOINT SUPPORT SHIP)
i always think it is perfact MRSS ship for our RMN.  2 unit will be enough。price usd 450m on 2013, now possible need 500m for now but can perform more than 5-in-1 role。 although it more expensive than LPD,but it enough to support all our navy requirement.
- Helicopter LPD with 2 chinook capable landing spot,and with 6 chinook folded hanger,should 10 unit for small helicopter)
- Strategic Transport
- full Role 3 hospital ship capability ( search & rescue )
- Auxiliary ship
- replenishment ship (oil/Materials/supply)
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buy after Gowind and LMS? can expect to wait till 2025 or even 2030 to start building... looking at ringgit doh.gif
may not be suitable for us - made for cold weather not hot etc.

Type 52C-class destroyer Xi'an and LCS-4 Coronado at RIMPAC 2016, showing off LCS-4's weapons fit. For RIMPAC she mounted 1 Harpoon (which had a fault and failed to fire rolleyes.gif ) and should operationally be able to mount a total of 4 (2 firing out to each side). In addition I think there is a modular low-vis Bushmaster 25mm gun forward of the hangar just behind the satcom dome.

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post Nov 11 2016, 06:02 PM

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James831
post Nov 11 2016, 06:05 PM

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LCS naming contest
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Littoral Combat Ship TLDM yang pertama bakal dilancarkan pada tahun 2017. TLDM telah memutuskan sebanyak 3 tema cadangan nama kapal disenarai pendek. Warganegara Malaysia dipelawa memberi respons pilihan terhadap cadangan nama kapal berdasarkan tema yang tertera. Untuk maklumat lanjut, sila hubungi Pegawai Perhubunganraya Pasukan Projek LCS TLDM di talian 05-6907000 samb 7681. Sila tandakan pilihan anda pada ruang kosong yang disediakan.

Pilihan 1 - PEJUANG

Memartabatkan ketokohan para pejuang tersohor tanah air semasa zaman penjajahan. Menjadi simbol semangat perjuangan dalam mempertahankan kedaulatan negara.

- KD MAHARAJA LELA
- KD SHARIF MASHOR
- KD RAJA MAHADI
- KD MAT SALLEH
- KD TOK JANGGUT
- KD MAT KILAU

Pilihan 2 - SENJATA
Memartabatkan kehebatan senjata tradisional yang digunakan oleh para pejuang tanah air semasa menentang penjajah. Menjadi simbol kekuatan dan kemegahan pasukan.

- KD RENTAKA
- KD ISTINGGAR
- KD PEMURAS
- KD SUNDANG
- KD KELEWANG
- KD KERAMBIT

  Pilihan 3 - NILAI KEBERANIAN
Memartabatkan nilai keberanian dan keperwiraan dalam menyemarakkan semangat juang individu dan pasukan.

- KD ADIKUASA
- KD BERANTAS
- KD BAHADURI
- KD CANDANG
- KD LELANANG
- KD TUNTAS

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post Nov 11 2016, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Nov 11 2016, 06:05 PM)
aww it would be nice if they name it based on states

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waja2000
post Nov 11 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 11 2016, 05:34 PM)
buy after Gowind and LMS? can expect to wait till 2025 or even 2030 to start building... looking at ringgit doh.gif
may not be suitable for us - made for cold weather not hot etc.
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i not means now ... just went the time they consider getting MRSS..
no issue on weather, Daman have have experience on it, since they also built warship for Indo and Vietnam. also many commercial ship for hot region。if buying sure the weather will be part of requirement。 even built ship for hot area much easy than in cool area, due to no need include heater pipeline and heater system/module for entire ship.

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post Nov 11 2016, 06:23 PM

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The reason Russia says it wants to nuke Norway over a deployment of 330 Marines

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Norway recently invited 330 U.S. Marines to its country for winter warfare exercises and Russia went all nuclear over it.

Frants Klintsevitsj, the deputy chairman of Russia’s defense and security committee, said on national TV that a nuclear strike was on the table over the Devil Dog deployment.

But how much damage can 330 U.S. Marines and their personal gear do? We did a little research, and it turns out Russia’s response might have been spot on.

Join us for an entertaining discussion of Marine Corps history and learn about its fearsome reputation.


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post Nov 11 2016, 06:32 PM

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Nervous Pentagon Wonders if It Can Slow Down Commander in Chief Trump

Every troop swears to follow the orders of the president. But what if those orders constitute a war crime? Some at the Pentagon say they could stonewall or refuse—but will they?

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To become a member of the U.S. military, every troop must take an oath to follow the orders of the president, regardless of that service member’s political affiliation or personal opinions.
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That separation allows commanders advising President Trump to refuse to follow orders that call for committing war crimes, like his proposal to kill the families of suspected terrorists. In March, Trump said he would force the military to commit war crimes.
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If President Trump proposes an idea the military uniformly considers legal but dangerous, commanders have a knack for stonewalling to buy time in hopes for crisis to pass, much as the military did in 1970 when President Nixon wanted to launch strikes in the Middle East.
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“I will obey the orders of the president of the United States. I will obey the orders of the president of the United States. I will obey the orders of the president of the United States—unless ordered to do something illegal.”
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Will a man who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin protect U.S. allies that also are Putin’s foes, like Ukraine?


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post Nov 11 2016, 06:35 PM

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New Defense System to Make Russian Il-112B Plane Missile-Proof

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MOSCOW (Sputnik) — A new onboard defense systems (ODS) based on the advanced President-S is being developed for the Ilyushin Il-112B military transport aircraft to protect it from all types of missiles that could be designed up to 2025, Russia's Concern Radio-Electronic Technologies (KRET) said Friday.

"KRET, part of the Rostec group, is working on a new airborne defense system for a new Russian light military transport aircraft Il-112B," the press service of the company said.

According to KRET, its engineers are developing a new modification of the ODS that will be able to counter all potential missile threats up to 2025.

The Russian Army is expected to begin receiving the new Il-112B aircraft in 2019. The aircraft could be used to deliver cargo close to the front line, where it risks being hit by a missile.

The President-S ODS is designed to protect planes and helicopters from being hit by missiles, air defense and anti-aircraft artillery. The defense system is currently installed on the Ka-52, Mi-28 and Mi-26 helicopters.

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post Nov 11 2016, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 11 2016, 06:16 PM)
aww it would be nice if they name it based on states

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Dah ade nama tu...NGPV based on states name
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post Nov 11 2016, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 11 2016, 06:40 PM)
Dah ade nama tu...NGPV based on states name
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oh so they LMS is the only one wtih those names?
waja2000
post Nov 11 2016, 07:10 PM

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LMS since will be many unit, can use our 1st tier and 2nd tier city name.
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The U.S. Army’s Long-Range Missiles Could Be the Perfect Tool to Neutralize China’s Artificial Islands

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Director of National Intelligence James Clapper assessed that the cluster of island bases will provide China with the ability to “deploy a range of offensive and defensive military capabilities,” as well as “significant capacity to quickly project substantial offensive military power to the region.”
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As the U.S. Army and Marine Corps move ahead with their new multi-domain battle concept, the rapid development of China’s artificial island bases presents itself as a looming real-world problem that requires a specific military solution, and soon.
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Enter the surface-to-surface missiles that either are or will be in the arsenals of the U.S. Army and Marine Corps: the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS, in service) and Long Range Precision Fires missile (LRPF, under development with a planned deployment date of 2027). While China has, over the last decade or two, deployed large numbers of precision-strike long-range surface-to-surface ballistic and cruise missiles, the United States has been slower to do so, limited in part by the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty but also by qualms about the employment of non-nuclear ballistic missiles—concerns that the Chinese leadership clearly does not share.
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The proximity of China’s artificial islands to allied territory, along with the planned greater reach of the LRPF missile, could provide an opportunity for an alternative approach.
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Some accounting is in order: first, based on recent export sales figures, individual ATACMS missiles appear to cost approximately $1.1 million each; their associated air-transportable mobile launchers cost approximately $3.5 million apiece. While these missiles would not be appropriate for truly long-range, penetrating-strike or air-sea-control applications, for the particular problem set of “kicking down the door” of China’s artificial island bases, this appears to be a relatively inexpensive solution.
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Similarly, the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), a voluntary regime to which the United States also subscribes, restricts the export (by the United States) of missiles and related technologies capable of carrying a payload past three hundred kilometers. As a likely result, the maximum stated range of the current fielded (and exported) version of ATACMS is three hundred kilometers, and the maximum planned range of the next-generation LRPF missile is five hundred kilometers
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This campaign would rain down difficult-to-stop mach-3 missiles from road-mobile launchers hidden in the rugged terrain of the Philippines onto China’s painstakingly constructed island bases. Stealthy ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) platforms such as low-observable drones or submarines (or even drones launched from submarines) could essentially be used as artillery spotters, operating from within China’s anti-air/anti-ship missile umbrella to provide real-time fire direction and battle-damage assessment. The advantages of this concept would include reduced risk associated with keeping high-value, but non-stealthy, strike platforms outside of China’s anti-air and anti-ship cruise and ballistic missiles’ coverage areas until after their reduction by U.S. ballistic missile fire.
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ATACMS missiles were similarly used for air-defense suppression during both U.S. invasions of Iraq as a way to strike missile defenses with low risk and reduce the danger to follow-on strike aircraft, and Air Force special-operations forces still train to do so. Additionally, the relatively quick flight time (about ten minutes at the most) and potential speed of targeting (little strike package planning required) could help to negate the current ability of China’s road-mobile missile systems to pack up and move frequently or after detecting an inbound subsonic cruise-missile attack. Given the air-transportability of the latest mobile ATACMS/LRPF launchers, they could rapidly be flown in to deal with this target set.
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United States has already demonstrated the ability to deploy ATACMS to the Philippines, Manila has shown interest in buying the system and development of the LRPF missile has been quite public, the resulting potential peril to China’s island bases could be made more explicit. For example, additional deterrent value could be gained by the demonstration of rapid and large-scale joint deployment (via U.S. Air Force heavy lift) of Marine and Army ATACMS units, with large numbers of missile reloads brought in by Navy high-speed logistics ships into austere port facilities—as they might have to be in the face of China’s own land-attack ballistic and cruise missiles.
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these missiles could even be fired from logistics vessels or any other platform with an open deck that can carry a truck-mounted launcher. Perhaps the United States should also consider a specific waiver to the current U.S. policy on submunitions to support their use against China’s artificial islands, which, after all, were built from scratch as isolated facilities with no native civilian population. In any case, the timeline for action is short.


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post Nov 11 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 11 2016, 06:16 PM)
demm reich is stronk
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EU leaders push for EU joint military force
It reveals a radical change in German plans to not only boost its present army’s mandate in troubled hotspots around the world, but also clearly states that it should be running any multinational military organizations, such as the proposed EU army.

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merkel did what hitler failed without even force... heil 4th reich.. inb4 petry crushes that plan

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Nervous Pentagon Wonders if It Can Slow Down Commander in Chief Trump

Every troop swears to follow the orders of the president. But what if those orders constitute a war crime? Some at the Pentagon say they could stonewall or refuse—but will they?

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well.. plenty of war crimes were committed under obama and bush...
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post Nov 11 2016, 09:05 PM

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Germany to double defense funding to €60 Billion Euros in accordance with new defense policy

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German taxpayers will be asked to shell out more money - lots more money - to fund the country's army, the Bundeswehr. That was one message that Chancellor Angela Merkel had at a conference of young conservatives this weekend in the city of Paderborn.

Merkel told representatives from her Christian Democratic Union's youth organizations that Germany would be increasing its military spending to 2 percent of GDP, in line with an agreement that NATO states reached in 2014. The country currently spends around 1.2 percent of GDP on the Bundeswehr.

"In the 21st century, we won't be getting as much help as we got in the 20th," Merkel said. "We need to greatly increase the Bundeswehr budget to get from 1.2 to 2 percent."

To meet that target, Germany's defense spending would have to rise to some 60 billion euros ($65.8 billion). The current planned military budget for the year 2020 is 39.2 billion euros.
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post Nov 11 2016, 09:52 PM

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abu sayyaf have been working extra hard lately..

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Vietnamese bulk carrier Royal 16 was hijacked by Abu Sayyaf terrorists

The Vietnamese bulk carrier Royal 16 was hijacked by Abu Sayyaf terrorists near the Philippine island of Basilian.

The vessel, which was en route from Hai Phong in Vietnam towards Davao, on 8.3 nautical miles southeast off Coco Island in Basilan Strait was approached by fast skiff with heavy armed men.

The pirates opened fire against the vessel and succeeded to take control.

Six from the crew on board of the Vietnamese bulk carrier, including include Master, Chief Mate, Second Officer, Third Officer, Bosun and Assistant Bosun, were kidnapped and taken as hostages.

The pirates and kidnapped seamen fled in a speed boat in unknown direction. The remaining 13 crew was left on board of bulk carrier Royal 16 and reported about the accident.

http://www.maritimeherald.com/2016/vietnam...yyaf-terrorists

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err.. whut?

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QUOTE(James831 @ Nov 11 2016, 02:01 AM)
shud have done so ages ago
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Peruvian army aviation helicopter makes emergency landing at the border

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Five injured people left the emergency landing of a helicopter of the Peruvian Army occurred amid bushes near the heliport of Huayampiad, area Imaza province of Bagua (Amazonas region).

Those affected are upper and lower limbs of this dependence, is These two Army technicians and two unidentified workers vigilantes. It was learned that the helicopter left at two in the afternoon from the garrison of Uracusa, near the river Marañón, transferring about 10 workers Together and Qaliwarma programs.

It is on the way and just get to your destination when it produces a suspected mechanical failure, which caused remain trapped next to the helipad among the bushes, the drivers tried to maneuver so as not to affect some nearby houses generating the incident.


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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 11 2016, 09:54 PM)
err.. whut?

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