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Indonesian president watches failed firings of Chinese-made C-705 missiles at naval exercise

Key Points
-Attempts to launch C-705 missiles from two Indonesian warships during an exercise has failed
-Failures come against the backdrop of increased spending on Chinese-made weapon systems by Jakarta

The Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL's) attempt to successfully launch Chinese-made C-705 anti-ship missiles from two indigenously built attack craft during a major naval exercise has failed, sources from within the service informed IHS Jane's on 15 September.

The missiles, which were deployed onboard the KCR-40-class missile attack craft KRI Clurit (641) and KRI Kujang (642), each failed at different stages of their launches on 14 September.

Clurit and Kujang each fired a single C-705 missile during Exercise 'Armada Jaya' 2016 which was conducted in the Java Sea.

Both attempts were made in full view of Indonesian President Joko Widodo who was there to witness the exercise from onboard the landing platform dock ship KRI Banjarmasin (592). Accompanying him was TNI-AL chief Admiral Ade Supandi, and Indonesian Armed Forces (TNI) chief General Gatot Nurmantyo.

According to TNI-AL sources, the first C-705 deployed on Clurit failed to launch upon command, but fired unexpectedly about five minutes later after the ship's crew failed to observe a misfire procedure.

The missile failed to hit its designated target for the exercise, the recently decommissioned Tisza-class auxiliary support ship, Karimata (960). The second C-705 missile, which was fired from Kujang , failed during mid-flight, and subsequently also failed to hit the same target.

http://www.janes.com/article/63815/indones...-naval-exercise

i know there is possibility of navy getting prc ships
ima fine on getting their hulls but not their weapons/sensor/radar

i know there is possibility of navy getting prc ships
ima fine on getting their hulls but not their weapons/sensor/radar

The Janes article is not entirely correct.

1. Only KRI Clurit fired the missile. KRI Kujang did not fired any missile.
2. KRI Clurit did not fired the missile unexpectedly. The countdown by the KRI Clurit commander to launch the missile can be seen from the video below. Credit to babycebong.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2j32ydk&s=9#.V90oYjilbHx

looks like a very2 conflicting reports from several local sources which then got quoted by janes
after researching it looks like the kri clurit indeed launches the c-705 missile but failed in mid-flight
and the kri kujang was tasked as the backup launcher in case the first launch didnt succeed but did not launch its c-705 missile
as for the second c-705 missile failure it seems the report stemmed from the sut torpedo failure launched by the kri ajak
and for some reason the launch of c-802 missile from kri layang was cancelled

wonder why the erroneous reporting even though the event was hugely covered by the media?

Indonesia's PT Pindad and Saab collaborate on air defence

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
16 September 2016
 
State-owned Indonesian defence company PT Pindad has joined forces with Saab to collaborate on offering the Swedish company's Ground Based Air Defence (GBAD) system to the Indonesian Ministry of Defense (MoD).

PT Pindad said on 15 September that the collaborative programme will focus on adhering to the requirements laid out in Indonesia's Defence Industry Law 2012 (also known as Law 16), which obliges foreign contractors to engage with local companies in producing, supplying, and maintaining imported products.

The two companies recently held a workshop at PT Pindad's facilities in Bandung to outline their proposal to the MoD and the Indonesian National Armed Forces (Tentara Nasional Indonesia: TNI).

AFAIK the target ex-KRI Karimata was sunk by the torpedo sut.

All medias were on the LPD KRI Banjarmasin together with Jokowi. So they don't know what actually was happening inside KRI Clurit. For medias a bad news is a good news.

any official sources on the exercise result? i dunno which one is true anymore
i know there is selective journalism but this is pure blatant lie already 

any official sources on the exercise result? i dunno which one is true anymore
i know there is selective journalism but this is pure blatant lie already 

One thing is true though, the missile fail

You Win Some, You Lose Some…

Marhalim Abas
September 18, 2016
Malaysia -RMN

SHAH ALAM: You Win Some, You Lose Some. In the previous post, we discussed about the possibility of the RMN getting more hulls, specifically China-made warships. Several readers suggested that there wasn’t not enough funds for RMN to get its cake and eat it too.

While its true that maintaining a bunch of old ships is hard on the RMN, its operational budget has really taken a beating since it started operating the submarines. And its RMK11 development budget is being consumed by the LCS.

The 15-to-5 plan – it is claimed – will solve the operational budget issue by reducing the hull types from the current 15 to five. However, I do not think this will solve the issue completely as the RMN still needs a higher operational budget.

If the plan is approve and the RMN gets more hulls, its imperative its gets higher operational budget, otherwise it cannot afford to operate the ships!

But how is the RMN going to get new hulls – whether or not based on the 15-to-5 plan – when the development budget has been consumed by the LCS? Well, you win some, you lose some.

In my post,Five Things We Are Getting in RMK11, I wrote that the RMN ASW helicopters has been green-lighted.

"The project to equip the RMN with six ASW helicopters was supposed to be funded in RMK10. However it was deferred. Fortunately it has now been revealed that the project had been approved for RMK11"

Industry sources have told me that since the emphasis is for RMN to get more more hulls, it is likely that the ASW helicopters funding would be diverted to the project instead.

Whether or not this will mean that it’s getting the two C28A corvette or four LMS we discussed previously, is beyond me at the moment, however.

And there are moves to get the ASW helicopter project off the ground, most likely by upgrading them.

"At DSA 2016, Global Komited Sdn Bhd signed an agreement with Finmeccanica for the promotion, marketing and distribution of AW159 naval helicopters to the Malaysian government. The agreement also covers the upgrade of the current Super Lynx helicopters in service with RMN."

I have been told that apart from buying new build ASW helicopters, RMN Super Lynx could be upgraded with ASW equipment instead. The upgrading route is being pursued although an industry source told me that fitting the Super Lynx with ASW equipment will be an expensive and tedious affair.

Several local industry sources however disputed this saying it was just a smoke screen for us to buy new build helicopters. They insisted upgrading the Super Lynx helicopters for ASW was a viable project although the OEM was not so keen about it.

Furthermore, by turning the ASW program into an upgrade project, will result in it being funded by the operational budget. Whatever, the case, the project has been shelved – for the moment at least – as the intention is now to get more hulls for the RMN, ASAP.

You win some, you lose some.

The Janes article is not entirely correct.

1. Only KRI Clurit fired the missile. KRI Kujang did not fired any missile.
2. KRI Clurit did not fired the missile unexpectedly. The countdown by the KRI Clurit commander to launch the missile can be seen from the video below. Credit to babycebong.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2j32ydk&s=9#.V90oYjilbHx

The news is Wrong, just One Indonesian Navy ship that shot C-705 Missile "KRI Clurit"

Why there is delay, when C-705 launching?
Because there is Communication problem between KRI Banjarmasin that President Joko Widodo boarded and KRI Clurit that shot C-705 Missile.
The crew in "KRI Clurit" doesn't know, when our President Mr.Joko Widodo starting count down.

Why C-705 Missile miss the target?
Just answer it by yourself.
The Target ship is 50 Kilometers (30 nm) away from "KRI Clurit"
but Radar sensor in "KRI Clurit" is SR-47A with Max range 40 Kilometers.
So ........ We can get the answer :-)
That's why Datalink is so Important in Modern naval warfare.

from defense pakistan， simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module，so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

It seems miss fire from this video..macet..

from defense pakistan， simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module，so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC