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 Yokohama Advan Fleva V701, S-Drive replacement

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post Apr 14 2017, 10:56 AM

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from this test, surprised me that GY ASY3 doesnt comes in any top 3 blink.gif
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post Apr 15 2017, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(dachshundPet @ Apr 14 2017, 09:36 AM)
Yoko Fleva review in the following tyre review web site on wet test so bad? Is it safe to drive on wet roads? Thanks.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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not sure if its trolling or what, it rate the primacy 3 better than the fleva, in dry n wet grip, this make me wanna laugh laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2017, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Apr 14 2017, 10:56 AM)
from this test, surprised me that GY ASY3 doesnt comes in any top 3  blink.gif
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Well in the below test, also by Autobild, it came 2nd though.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

But yeah in most other tests, the F1A3 seems under performing. In last year's Autoexpress UK test, it also only came in 5th.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-t...-tyres-20162017

QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 15 2017, 02:57 PM)
not sure if its trolling or what, it rate the primacy 3 better than the fleva, in dry n wet grip, this make me wanna laugh  laugh.gif
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Well the test was done by Autobild, so surely not trolling but whether it's reliable we don't know. Maybe their testing experience was like yours first time when you use your harder setup hence poor performance. Anyway aside from the AD08R, Yokohama also never fares really well in most European comparison tests. The regular top 5 are either Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Dunlop, or sometimes even Hankook but seldom Yokohama.
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QUOTE(dachshundPet @ Apr 10 2017, 09:40 AM)
This "Nestum" does not accept trade in used tyre. Used to buy CD02 tyre from them. 1 thing I dislike them is there is an Aunty in the shop very LCLY.
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They accept trade in, but your tyres have to be in a good and usable condition, otherwise they can't offer you much or anything. What language do you speak in to the Aunty anyway? Her proficiency in English is average, so she may come across as LCLY.

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 15 2017, 05:37 PM)
Well in the below test, also by Autobild, it came 2nd though.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

But yeah in most other tests, the F1A3 seems under performing. In last year's Autoexpress UK test, it also only came in 5th.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-t...-tyres-20162017
Well the test was done by Autobild, so surely not trolling but whether it's reliable we don't know. Maybe their testing experience was like yours first time when you use your harder setup hence poor performance. Anyway aside from the AD08R, Yokohama also never fares really well in most European comparison tests. The regular top 5 are either Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Dunlop, or sometimes even Hankook but seldom Yokohama.
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but really i'm impress this tyre , for the price , the grip level , not bad, its just the softer side wall not so well for spirited drive. considered that this is for that section of customer i think it did pretty well, the characteristics is like PS3 with slightly stiffer side wall , slightly higher noise. Same as PS3, harder compound and softer side wall. May be its a recipe for good wet grip, the wet grip of this tyre really pretty good ( yea, i'm type these after I touge during raining condition from karak to gohtong). I think this recipe also works much better with stock setup suspension, my fren fiesta fitted with it give quite high remark for it too.

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 14 2017, 10:06 AM)
Hmm based on this test, seems this tire is more focused for dry and comfort!  laugh.gif  Let's see more feedback from others.
Also another point to note is the new Falken Azenis FK510 can perform surprisingly good, matching much more expensive tires, so this tire can be a very good value for money. Then tires which are supposedly in a slightly lower performance category like CPC6 & P7 can match or beat higher performance category tires like the Sportmaxx RT2 & F1A3. F1A3 though I think might end up higher if not for its expensive price. Wonder how PS4 would fare in this test but I think it should top it, so if yo have budget for PS4, just buy that one. Also same case for CSC5/6 series, which surely are even better than CPC6. It's a pity difficult to get the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT in Malaysia.

Thanks for the review link!  thumbup.gif
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oh ya , sorry for talking about ps4 in fleva thread, after some testing on f30 which used to be wearing PS3, the thread looks soft n sticker after some spirited drive up n down gohtong , and use the finger nail to poke the thread to test, meanwhile Fleva after spirited drive, the thread still looks like quite stiff and less damage which make me think that thread life on fleva much better on PS4, but for 225/45/18, the price almost double on michelin side rclxub.gif . The dry grip is good thou, rarely squeeze when pushing to limit compared to fleva which squeeze a lot, and the side wall is stiffer than PS3/fleva, better response. I purposely go through water puddle , the aquaplaning resistance ability seem not as well as PS3 hmm.gif

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2017, 01:34 AM)
but really i'm impress this tyre , for the price , the grip level , not bad, its just the softer side wall not so well for spirited drive. considered that this is for that section of customer i think it did pretty well, the characteristics is like PS3 with slightly stiffer side wall , slightly higher noise. Same as PS3, harder compound and softer side wall. May be its a recipe for good wet grip, the wet grip of this tyre really pretty good ( yea, i'm type these after I touge during raining condition from karak to gohtong). I think this recipe also works much better with stock setup suspension, my fren fiesta fitted with it give quite high remark for it too.
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Hmm your feedback contradicts that Autobild test. If you look closely at that test result, the Fleva seems decent in the dry but bad in the wet! Though it seems to agree with you on the soft sidewall coz it stated the Fleva as the most comfortable tire! biggrin.gif


QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2017, 01:40 AM)
oh ya , sorry for talking about ps4 in fleva thread, after some testing on f30 which used to be wearing PS3, the thread looks soft n sticker after some spirited drive up n down gohtong , and use the finger nail to poke the thread to test, meanwhile Fleva after spirited drive, the thread still looks like quite stiff and less damage which make me think that thread life on fleva much better on PS4, but for 225/45/18, the price almost double on michelin side rclxub.gif . The dry grip is good thou, rarely squeeze when pushing to limit compared to fleva which squeeze a lot, and the side wall is stiffer than PS3/fleva, better response. I purposely go through water puddle , the aquaplaning resistance ability seem not as well as PS3  hmm.gif
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PS4 is topping many tests now. I think my next change will be that tire, unless I can get other much cheaper options but still very good tires (maybe the Hankook S1 Evo 2). Anyway the Fleva might be acceptable for its cheap price, you got what you pay for. Wonder how it compares to the Hankook V12 Evo 2 which is in very similar directional design and maybe price also. Another option is the newly announced Continental CPC6 which is targeted to replace and combine CPC5 & CSC5 altogether into 1 tire to compete with PS4.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 18 2017, 11:32 AM)
Hmm that's a bit odd, coz you said the sidewall is already softer yet you still need to run with even softer dampers. What's your tire pressure? Did you play around with that? But anyway if based on you finding, then this tire might still be suitable for me coz my car is also still soft even though already using TRD shocks & Tanabe springs with some UR bars.  laugh.gif  Currently on CSC5 fr/CSC3 rr and they barely squeal at all.  biggrin.gif
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Old Goh Tong touge is bumpy. Cars set up with softer dampers can usually run quicker.

My lightened Satria is running on stock dampers and it out paces most stiffly sprung coil over cars in the tight sections....being softly sprung and dampered, it also allows me to do "gutter runs" at the often broken pavement sides at off camber turns, off loading the inside tire so I can "makan" into the turn without it catching.



My guess if he softened it even more, he will find more grip. That said, more grip does not mean more speed. How and when you use the extra grip is key. To each their own I suppose.



The issue here is likely confidence not grip. The tyre with stiffer sidewall tend to give a more immediate response. The slightly worn out S Drive will also have less thread squirm than the full depth Fleva. I had this problem even with the big block Parada S ( 2 sets) when they were new (they also had soft sidewalls), they were numb and imprecise AF until it worn down to 50%. They were also out rightly dangerous in the damp.

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 15 2017, 10:40 AM)
Yeah the comparison is not quite representative coz your previous S.Drive was wider and much thinner which can give the impression of much better response and grip. I'm surprised if the new Fleva is really not better than the outdated S.Drive, but if it's really is then this Fleva is not that good or comparatively much weaker than others of similar category. Good to know though that at least it's good in the wet.
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I am surprised as well. The last S drive (1st gen, maybe the 2nd gen were better) I tried was garbage. Expensive, Luckluster in the dry, horrible in the wet. Noisy. Even Kumho's cheap KU31 worked better.

Looking at this Fleva with interest. After going through 2 sets of PS3s down to the belts with no complaints (and 3 sets of chapalang Falkens, Nang Kangs, and Achillies - the Last 2 blowing up on the highway), perhaps it is a a time to change brands again. Just need a touring tyre with good aquaplaning resistance at highway speeds with a sporting twist. PS4 is too expensive now, and the RE003 a little too hardcore, so maybe the Fleva and V12e may be prime candidates.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2017, 01:34 AM)
but really i'm impress this tyre , for the price , the grip level , not bad, its just the softer side wall not so well for spirited drive. considered that this is for that section of customer i think it did pretty well, the characteristics is like PS3 with slightly stiffer side wall , slightly higher noise. Same as PS3, harder compound and softer side wall. May be its a recipe for good wet grip, the wet grip of this tyre really pretty good ( yea, i'm type these after I touge during raining condition from karak to gohtong). I think this recipe also works much better with stock setup suspension, my fren fiesta fitted with it give quite high remark for it too.
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Sorry bro, noob here.

So, it's better to run this ADVAN Fleva with higher tyre pressure or lower tyre pressure?

Pls advise notworthy.gif
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post May 10 2017, 01:01 PM

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Quoted 215/45/r17 rm290 per piece and rm1220 all 4 including gst+alignment+balancing. Reasonable price?
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QUOTE(sev66 @ May 10 2017, 01:01 PM)
Quoted 215/45/r17 rm290 per piece and rm1220 all 4 including gst+alignment+balancing. Reasonable price?
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I got mine 195/50/R16 at Rm280 exclude GST . Where you got yours?
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QUOTE(drumstick62 @ May 10 2017, 04:06 PM)
I got mine 195/50/R16 at Rm280 exclude GST .  Where you got yours?
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Haven buy. Still asking around. This 1 at jalan reko kajang.
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Haven buy. Still asking around. This 1 at jalan reko kajang.
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well with the price you can give it a try. Just bear in mind fleva is a performance tyres so it will be abit noisy.

this is my survey of all price of Fleva 195/50 R16 in Klang valley.
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QUOTE(drumstick62 @ May 11 2017, 10:15 AM)
well with the price you can give it a try. Just bear in mind fleva is a performance tyres so it will be abit noisy.

this is my survey of all price of Fleva 195/50 R16 in Klang valley.
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Noisier than RE003? Planning to change my RE003.
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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ May 11 2017, 02:09 PM)
Noisier than RE003? Planning to change my RE003.
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I can't really advise on this. my experience was only with stock tyres, Michelin and now fleva.
Was actually thinking to change PS4 but the revised price gave me a hard stop.
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QUOTE(cranx @ Apr 12 2017, 01:21 AM)
Been using for 1.5 days. So far great tyres and highly recommended. Good grip on turns and quiet stable on the highway.
just waiting for heavy rain to test it out further.
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How much per piece? Thinking of changing 4 pieces
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QUOTE(fwhoam @ May 12 2017, 07:55 AM)
How much per piece? Thinking of changing 4 pieces
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include gst balancing alignment rm380. 215/50/r17. Wet performance is good too. Just need to wait and see how long it lasts. I travel around 3000 to 4000km per month.
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Anyone compared this against the Falken FK510?

Thinking between these 2 choices for my next tyre change in a few months time.

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QUOTE(dachshundPet @ Apr 14 2017, 09:36 AM)
Yoko Fleva review in the following tyre review web site on wet test so bad? Is it safe to drive on wet roads? Thanks.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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I am currently using 2 fleva on my Subaru forester. I probably concur with the test. on marginally wet road (after rain) and taking a 70-80 degree turn at about 60km/h (it's a wide road).........car was understeer.....when I try to correct it by increasing steer, car start to fish tail.....as the tire lose grip.

on other occasion, when road is dry, taking a similar turn at about more or less the same speed, I do hear some screeching sound (not a long one , but an audible one).

not looking like I will buy another 2 piece to replace my 2 older tires.


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QUOTE(dinox @ May 18 2017, 09:36 AM)
I am currently using 2 fleva on my Subaru forester. I probably concur with the test. on marginally wet road (after rain) and taking a 70-80 degree turn at about 60km/h (it's a wide road).........car was understeer.....when I try to correct it by increasing steer, car start to fish tail.....as the tire lose grip.

on other occasion, when road is dry, taking a similar turn at about more or less the same speed, I do hear some screeching sound (not a long one , but an audible one).

not looking like I will buy another 2 piece to replace my 2 older tires.
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what tyres were you using previously?

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